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firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:18 PM Apr 2016

What if Bernie Had Lost Delegates in NV?

GDP would be fire and brimstone right now.

For the record, I don't think there's foul play by either side here, it's simply another example of why caucuses suck. But I certian that if this situation were reversed, DU would burn to the ground.

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What if Bernie Had Lost Delegates in NV? (Original Post) firebrand80 Apr 2016 OP
What if my aunt timmymoff Apr 2016 #1
Not if she called herself your aunt. nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #4
Why is no one calling for MI to have a do over? JaneyVee Apr 2016 #2
Same reason there won't be much chatter about a do over in WI geek tragedy Apr 2016 #6
Because they don't want to expose timmymoff Apr 2016 #7
Umm...Bernie won MI. So u dont care ppl were turned away? JaneyVee Apr 2016 #8
K&R Henhouse Apr 2016 #12
I'm annoyed at that, also. Besides, Blacks folks are supporting Bernie by +10% in Wisconsin. (nt) w4rma Apr 2016 #21
Voter supression timmymoff Apr 2016 #34
Yes, that's one of the first things I heard reported out of Michigan. R B Garr Apr 2016 #13
Yup. But Team BS is ok with that apparently. JaneyVee Apr 2016 #14
Had they not run out of ballots AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #17
That makes sense. I knew that Karen Weaver had endorsed Clinton and thought the result was strange shadowandblossom Apr 2016 #33
In a couple of weeks PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #3
What if I stubbed my big toe? Autumn Apr 2016 #5
You will likely limp for a little while KPN Apr 2016 #10
Nothing will affect my support for Bernie. Can't say the same for the Hillary delegates in Autumn Apr 2016 #18
Haha. KPN Apr 2016 #24
What if the Nevada Hillary People made an effort to get her supporters to show up? jillan Apr 2016 #9
What if they hadn't been lied to? WhiteTara Apr 2016 #11
Apparently everybody got the same email but, magically, only Bernie supporters got the.... Henhouse Apr 2016 #15
Hillary supporters received the correct information. Bernie supporters only got what the Clinton-run w4rma Apr 2016 #22
They weren't lied to. RichVRichV Apr 2016 #28
What if worms had six shooters? angstlessk Apr 2016 #16
There's be a lot of 'late birds' beedle Apr 2016 #38
"example of why caucuses suck". No it's just an example of why that particular caucus process sucked Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #19
What if Media had not lied about Sanders Gwhittey Apr 2016 #20
And what if there had been a data breech and the Clinton campaign had accessed Bernie's StevieM Apr 2016 #23
Who says they didn't? timmymoff Apr 2016 #36
Are you saying Hillary supporters just aren't as passionate about their candidate as Bernie's? jmg257 Apr 2016 #25
Let's set that myth aside. shadowandblossom Apr 2016 #30
Then I'd be reading OPs all over DU about how millennials can't get out of bed on a Saturday morning Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #26
It would just be another reason why the Bernie Bros couldn't vote for Secretary Clinton SFnomad Apr 2016 #27
I agree. shadowandblossom Apr 2016 #29
You are aware that happened in Iowa nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #31
Guess we're suppose to ignore those facts that don't support the meme.... think Apr 2016 #37
not to mention beedle Apr 2016 #39
There have been plenty of threads denouncing what happened in NV yesterday. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #32
Irrelevant...he didn't. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #35
 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
2. Why is no one calling for MI to have a do over?
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:20 PM
Apr 2016

Places like Flint ran out of ballots and turned people away.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
6. Same reason there won't be much chatter about a do over in WI
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:23 PM
Apr 2016

due to Snott Walker's vote suppression if Bernie wins.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
7. Because they don't want to expose
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:26 PM
Apr 2016

the nasty tricks by team Hillary that were overlooked? Don't need to poke that hornet's nest? Kind of like Cook County Illinois.

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
21. I'm annoyed at that, also. Besides, Blacks folks are supporting Bernie by +10% in Wisconsin. (nt)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:56 PM
Apr 2016
 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
34. Voter supression
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 04:34 PM
Apr 2016

is Hillary's strength, so yes I do care, but the fact of the matter is I am sure she approves, just happened to backfire on her, unlike in Cook County Illinois. I have read many posts here supporting voter suppression by Hillary supporter's. Also how Bernie supporters aren't real democrats. So I say to you.. not really, do you care that bill goes to polling places with his Bullhorn? Own it, she is a great conservative candidate.

R B Garr

(16,966 posts)
13. Yes, that's one of the first things I heard reported out of Michigan.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:34 PM
Apr 2016

Heavy Clinton area ran out of ballots.

shadowandblossom

(718 posts)
33. That makes sense. I knew that Karen Weaver had endorsed Clinton and thought the result was strange
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 03:58 PM
Apr 2016

considering how well respected Weaver is in that community, but that explains it.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
3. In a couple of weeks
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:22 PM
Apr 2016

WA stage 2 caucus happens. Sanders could very easily have that happen here. I hope not, but it is possible.

KPN

(15,647 posts)
10. You will likely limp for a little while
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:30 PM
Apr 2016

but not as badly or as long as you would if it had been your little toe.

In any case, it won't really affect your support for Bernie.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
18. Nothing will affect my support for Bernie. Can't say the same for the Hillary delegates in
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:47 PM
Apr 2016

Nevada who didn't bother to show up.

Henhouse

(646 posts)
15. Apparently everybody got the same email but, magically, only Bernie supporters got the....
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:43 PM
Apr 2016

corrected information.

I'm not saying there is foul play afoot but this seems to be a bigger problem than the incompetance of the Democratic Party in MI, AZ and IA.....

Good new is this did very little as far as delegate math but does make the Sander's people look hypocritical for dismissing the actual voter who voted overwhelmingly for Clinton in the 02/20 caucus.

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
22. Hillary supporters received the correct information. Bernie supporters only got what the Clinton-run
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:58 PM
Apr 2016

Clark County Dems sent.

RichVRichV

(885 posts)
28. They weren't lied to.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 03:47 PM
Apr 2016

Registration was sufficient to have their vote counted. That's all the rules called for. They didn't bother to register.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
16. What if worms had six shooters?
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:44 PM
Apr 2016

Birds would not mess with them!

See, you can follow 'what if' by any outrageous question!

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
19. "example of why caucuses suck". No it's just an example of why that particular caucus process sucked
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:52 PM
Apr 2016

There are problems with primaries and voting machines all the time. We don't take that as an example of why voting can't work. We say it is an example of something to be fixed. Caucuses can work if that's what people want.
 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
20. What if Media had not lied about Sanders
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:53 PM
Apr 2016

And he won SC because African American Voters where not feed the lie about the picture of his Civil Rights protests arrest being a fake. Or Rep. Lewis lying about how Sanders never did anything During MLK Civil Rights time but Clintons did?

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
23. And what if there had been a data breech and the Clinton campaign had accessed Bernie's
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 03:01 PM
Apr 2016

voter information?

The Sanders people would have screamed bloody murder.

But, of course, when it did happen they some how convinced themselves that it was a Clinton scandal and she had wronged him.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
36. Who says they didn't?
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 04:36 PM
Apr 2016

They were awful quick to drop their poutrage. There is some reason sanders I suing. I'm sure DWS earned it.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
25. Are you saying Hillary supporters just aren't as passionate about their candidate as Bernie's?
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 03:03 PM
Apr 2016

Other then repetitive silly posts about supposed "lies", Susan Sarandon, "unreleased tax returns", defending her lobbyist-connection corruption, and other trivial what-not - I tend to agree.

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
27. It would just be another reason why the Bernie Bros couldn't vote for Secretary Clinton
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 03:17 PM
Apr 2016

They would say it was tearing the Democratic Party apart and that it would show that Secretary Clinton would go to any lengths to win.

shadowandblossom

(718 posts)
29. I agree.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 03:49 PM
Apr 2016

Basically I expect some human error in the process. But if the shoe were on the other foot I think there would be hundreds of angry, raging posts screaming about election theft and directly accusing the candidate.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
39. not to mention
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 06:12 PM
Apr 2016

if the results were the opposite and Bernie lost delegates because they failed to show up, there would be no calls from Hillary supporters to do a damn thing about it, they'd just say 'rules are the rules'.

ASAIK, delegate rules can be changed right up to, and during the convention, so here's a thought, let's all get together and give back Hillary her 3 or 4 delegates in NV and do away with super delegates ... sounds fair to me.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
32. There have been plenty of threads denouncing what happened in NV yesterday.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 03:55 PM
Apr 2016

Some by Sanders supporters.

We aren't the villains here.

And there was just as much dodginess in the original caucus result as there was yesterday.

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