2016 Postmortem

pnwmom

(108,988 posts) Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:23 PM Apr 2016

WA POST: Hillary still in the lead in Nevada -- by 1 delegate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/04/03/a-scrappy-sanders-campaign-narrows-the-nevada-delegate-count-six-weeks-after-the-caucuses/

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Jon Ralston, a veteran Nevada reporter, said on his blog that Saturday’s action is “expected to switch two delegates to Sanders, giving Clinton an 18 to 17 lead in Nevada, but that is still pending the results of the state convention next month, when those 12 slots could again change. … Ah, the caucus process.”

Clinton spokesman Brian Fallon emphasized that the results could change again and noted some irregularities in the process on Saturday. Regardless, he said, Clinton still has more delegates in Nevada than Sanders.

Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver said his team believes Sanders has at least narrowed the gap to a single delegate — and he raised the possibility that his candidate could actually come out of Nevada with more delegates than Clinton when all is said and done.

Weaver also complained about the messy process, saying on Twitter that the Democratic National Committee should take a hard look at whether Nevada deserves one of the first four slots on the nominating calendar. Its Democratic caucuses followed contests in Iowa and New Hampshire and preceded South Carolina.

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WA POST: Hillary still in the lead in Nevada -- by 1 delegate. (Original Post) pnwmom Apr 2016 OP

Wikipedia is estimating Bernie's Nevada win at 19 pledged delegates to 16 pledged delegates. w4rma Apr 2016 #1

I'll trust Jon Ralston over Bernie-crowd-sourced Wikipedia on this one, thanks. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #3

Hillary is representing the authoritarian wing of the Democratic Party. (nt) w4rma Apr 2016 #5

That's what it might look like from the silly wing of the Democratic party. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #6

Wouldn't that be the wing that is trying to thwart the will of the people by gaming the process?(nt) DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #8

The caucus system is s*** Dem2 Apr 2016 #2

Yes it is. The mess is built into the DNA and the only fix pnwmom Apr 2016 #4

I have to agree Dem2 Apr 2016 #7

NY Times still has her at 20, him at 15 Number23 Apr 2016 #9

"Weaver also complained about the messy process" Number23 Apr 2016 #10

w4rma

(31,700 posts)

1. Wikipedia is estimating Bernie's Nevada win at 19 pledged delegates to 16 pledged delegates.

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 03:37 PM

Apr 2016

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada_Democratic_caucuses,_2016#Results

● These County Conventions choose the county's delegates to the Nevada State Democratic Convention. While a non-binding Presidential Preference Poll is conducted during the Conventions, delegates at the County level are not bound to their declared Presidential preference. The number of national convention can be estimated base on voting in today's convention. No national convention delegates are selected until the state Convention on 14 May.

Saturday 14 May - Sunday 15 May 2016: The Nevada State Democratic Convention convenes to choose 35 of Nevada's 43 delegates to the Democratic National Convention. A binding Presidential Preference vote will occur by 10AM PDT on 14 May. A mandatory 15 percent threshold is required in order for a presidential contender to be allocated National Convention delegates at either the congressional district or statewide level. Presidential candidates have the right to approve their pledged delegates.

● 23 district delegates are to be allocated proportionally to presidential contenders based on the support among the delegates to the State Convention from the State's congressional districts.

● In addition, 12 delegates are to be allocated to presidential contenders based on the support among the delegates to the State Convention as a whole.
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/NV-D

pnwmom

(108,988 posts)

3. I'll trust Jon Ralston over Bernie-crowd-sourced Wikipedia on this one, thanks. n/t

Reply to w4rma (Reply #1)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 04:33 PM

Apr 2016

w4rma

(31,700 posts)

5. Hillary is representing the authoritarian wing of the Democratic Party. (nt)

Reply to pnwmom (Reply #3)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 05:12 PM

Apr 2016

pnwmom

(108,988 posts)

6. That's what it might look like from the silly wing of the Democratic party. n/t

Reply to w4rma (Reply #5)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 05:14 PM

Apr 2016

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)

8. Wouldn't that be the wing that is trying to thwart the will of the people by gaming the process?(nt)

Reply to w4rma (Reply #5)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 05:15 PM

Apr 2016

Dem2

(8,168 posts)

2. The caucus system is s***

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 03:39 PM

Apr 2016

What a f****** mess.

pnwmom

(108,988 posts)

4. Yes it is. The mess is built into the DNA and the only fix

Reply to Dem2 (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 04:34 PM

Apr 2016

is joining the modern world and switch to primaries.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)

7. I have to agree

Reply to pnwmom (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 05:15 PM

Apr 2016

Going forward, the DNC needs to update the system and get the states to buy into it so everybody knows the new rules well in advance of the next Presidential election.

Number23

(24,544 posts)

9. NY Times still has her at 20, him at 15

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 06:11 PM

Apr 2016

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/primary-calendar-and-results.html?_r=0

They took the Nevada results down for a few hours yesterday and when they put them back up, nothing had changed.

Number23

(24,544 posts)

10. "Weaver also complained about the messy process"

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 06:12 PM

Apr 2016

Heh. If Hillary's team had complained about how ridiculous and messy Nevada was, can you imagine the screams about how she must be mad this was "ruining her coronation" or something equally stupid?

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