Economic recession since the great depression.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2011-04-14/goldman-sachs-misled-congress-after-duping-clients-over-cdos-levin-says

And Hillary supporters think that she's going to be tough on her boss...

To appoint people to regulate and police them?

________ __ ...

This is what it comes down to, shitty innuendo and fantasy scenarios of future crimes. LOL.
I don't believe most of you are remotely serious with this schtick.

Bernie asks for more, ergo, people will just up and give it to him. He will bend the world to his will, according to you guys.
I'm sorry, it's so fucking delusional at this point, I have to laugh.

My life experience tells me clearly that if the actual goal is $12/hour, you do not achieve it by beginning at that point in the negotiation.

Do you REALLY disagree? Please be honest.

minimum wage is a fuck load more doable than going to 15$ across the board. The numbers are still the numbers, which matters more than anything.

The min wage would only be doubled if she GOT it to 12/hour.

Do you think that asking for $12 at the start of negotiations is more likely to achieve $12/hour --or is starting at $15 more likely to achieve it?

Please answer the question.

working relationship with people, you are in a worse position to bargain. You know that this one factor- the initial ask, is far from the most important thing in achieving success.


It's working with congress, not a job interview, for fucks sake. LOL. I wonder where these over simplistic ideas come from?

you wind up with less than your initial position, but it is also invariably the truth.

You laugh at the idea, but it is much more amusing that you believe that $12 min wage can be achieved after starting with that as a position.

Do I assume he will definitely get shot down? Nope, but he certainly could..... and I think he will get negotiated down a whole lot further than Hillary will.

And then, millions of people would have to call him a liar for taking the 12$, right? It seems to be the MO around here.
Poor Sanders would be crucified for compromising by his biggest supporters- if they are "consistent".

They treat every proposal from our side as if it already represents an extreme position.

In that context, it is clear that negotiating from a higher number is a better strategy. Feel me?

stubborn (principled) about it doesn't cut it. You actually have to be able to work with people (and OMG!!! have your picture taken with them!!!) which is not SBS's strong suit.

I he asked for 30, would he get 15$ more than what he asked of now? That's not even rational thought. But it passes for it here.

While I can never claim to either have been a slave nor a descendant of one, I can imagine that the hyperbole you are using would be offensive to some.

I worked minimum wage jobs from the time I was 14 years old. I know what it is like and there is a verb "slaving away".

I am sorry if that offends you, but it is a correct term especially given that they don't earn a living wage.

So take your faux outrage elsewhere.

Just pointing out that someone equating the institution of slavery, with getting paid for a voluntary position (which includes at least some protections afforded by government entities), is ignorant at best.

Every hear the phrase "wage slave"? How about "slaving away" at a job?

You said it was offensive. That is outrage, Southern Californian 31.

But people that work those jobs, as I have done, know how badly they are being fucked.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

I mean, it is weird that you think I compared them to slaves.

Its Sunday evening and I have had more than one adult beverage on my day off.

Cheers.

When you are minimum wage.

You do what your boss says or you lose your job. When you are minimun or lowwage, you can't lose it. I have broken osha safety regulations, worked off the clock, and worked more hours than legal all under threat of being fired for not.

I was basically a slave who had some choice of who my master was.

maybe a person who is creating the cure for cancer, but that's about it.

power and money.

Is earning $170,000 per year the same as earning $20 million/year to you? Or are they "roughly the same"?

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