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What is Bernie hiding? (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 OP
That is what I am wondering 4now Apr 2016 #1
Release the transcripts of those speeches Hillary! Human101948 Apr 2016 #28
ROFL revbones Apr 2016 #2
When he releases those tax returns in the very near future and theres nothing interesting there... phleshdef Apr 2016 #3
They'll conveniently be ok with not releasing stuff like transcripts then... nt revbones Apr 2016 #4
It's apples and oranges...candidates disclose their tax returns. Private speech transcripts... anotherproletariat Apr 2016 #7
Interesting that Bernie released his most recent return when Clinton wouldn't release any revbones Apr 2016 #8
He has NOT released his most recent return. pkdu Apr 2016 #27
Bravo! A for effort! Bonus points for the Cheney reference. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #5
Hillary supporters are impatient, we've been waiting 59 days for Hillary speech transcripts Joob Apr 2016 #6
This! coyote Apr 2016 #9
What ever it is, it's clearly big- REALLY big- and, menacing. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #10
! beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #12
He's not packin' peanuts. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #13
Stop it, this is seriose! beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #14
I'm pretty sure he is hiding a couple pints of Ben & Jerry's GreatGazoo Apr 2016 #20
Nothing hidden. Now what about those transcripts Clinton promised us? Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #11
You know, this is exactly what Clinton is referencing when she brings up uniform R B Garr Apr 2016 #15
She kmows it would make her look terrible. Nt Logical Apr 2016 #17
That's just an assumption and pretty funny considering that you have to be R B Garr Apr 2016 #21
Bullshit, if she does not worship wall street then she would be ok. Nt Logical Apr 2016 #25
Bernie worships Wall Street since that's all he talks about. nt R B Garr Apr 2016 #26
Lol, sure he does! Keep trying! Nt Logical Apr 2016 #29
Oh, you too. Wall Street is his big money maker. He wants you to R B Garr Apr 2016 #30
You really are over the top silly! Nt Logical Apr 2016 #16
Rumor has it he has a cow barn filled with dancing heifers. Vinca Apr 2016 #18
This is way more important that some stupid transcripts of speeches uponit7771 Apr 2016 #19
K&R! stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #22
Millions to campaigns from lobbyists, jmg257 Apr 2016 #23
Funny how ,,, Cryptoad Apr 2016 #32
Agreed - people are worried about the wrong things. Nt jmg257 Apr 2016 #37
His standing as a powerful member of the establishment. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #24
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #31
There is no excuse for his not releasing a bunch of returns. Orsino Apr 2016 #33
Don't look behind the door .., Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #34
Aww, no fair trying to disarm us with cute sloths. Squee, in spite of myself. :) Tanuki Apr 2016 #40
If I had to guess... OilemFirchen Apr 2016 #35
No mention of them for months, suddenly they are apoplectic AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #36
Many HIllary supporters have an authoritarian bent. Thus, they unquestioningly follow in line morningfog Apr 2016 #42
What rancid chew toy are you going to latch onto once he does release his returns? frylock Apr 2016 #38
What ever the are spoon fed. morningfog Apr 2016 #41
They're eating Brock's feces by the shovel load. frylock Apr 2016 #44
Ding a ling a ling a ling. You hear that bell and drool. morningfog Apr 2016 #39
Maybe he's not hiding anything, and it's just a matter of being too disorganized and impaired at Tanuki Apr 2016 #43
What are Hillary supporters hiding? Splinter Cell Apr 2016 #45
It certainly is suspicious. Well, it makes ME suspicious anyway... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #46

4now

(1,596 posts)
1. That is what I am wondering
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 01:46 AM
Apr 2016

And I haven't heard a good reason why he would to try and hide his tax returns from the people.
Unless he has something to hide.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
3. When he releases those tax returns in the very near future and theres nothing interesting there...
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 01:48 AM
Apr 2016

...are you guys going to have the basic human decency to feel even the tiniest drop of shame over this nonsense?

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
7. It's apples and oranges...candidates disclose their tax returns. Private speech transcripts...
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 02:39 AM
Apr 2016

are not traditionally released, and since Hillary is in the lead and will face a repub who also has had an interesting enough past to be asked to give paid speeches, it won't be an issue.

Good thing for Bernie is that after he is forced out of the race, he too will be offered paid speaking gigs. AND, he won't have to worry about what his tax returns look like anymore.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
8. Interesting that Bernie released his most recent return when Clinton wouldn't release any
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 03:00 AM
Apr 2016

and now that she has and he's not in Vermont with easy access to the returns Jane completed, he's expected to immediately.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/06/30/on-tax-returns-sanders-and-wife-report-200000-in-income-mostly-from-his-senate-post/

Hillary followers don't know what a joke she is making of them.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
10. What ever it is, it's clearly big- REALLY big- and, menacing.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 03:08 AM
Apr 2016

Really. Perhaps we would be safer if he just kept that huge..... whatever it is, hidden.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
11. Nothing hidden. Now what about those transcripts Clinton promised us?
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 03:52 AM
Apr 2016

Sanders just has to ask Jane to look for another year's files.

Did Hillary give her transcripts to Bill while saying "now don't you misplace these babies, wink-wink"?

R B Garr

(16,966 posts)
15. You know, this is exactly what Clinton is referencing when she brings up uniform
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 08:15 AM
Apr 2016

standards for releasing material. Thanks for making her point, although you aren't the first, so forgive me if I place this here in response.

Tax returns are a uniform standard for all candidates.

"Transcripts" are a manufactured and arbitrary "concern" of Sanders to malign Hillary.

So Hillary is right to say that when it's a uniform standard for ALL candidates, then she will release those items in question.

That you all are comingling the two is pretty much her point, and it's a good one about the arbitrary requirements for her. It's doubly a good point since Sanders hasn't even complied with the uniform standards for all candidates, himself (tax returns for financial transparency). Quite hilarious he's haranguing Clinton when he's noncompliant himself. Pathetic, actually.

R B Garr

(16,966 posts)
21. That's just an assumption and pretty funny considering that you have to be
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 08:30 AM
Apr 2016

heavily invested in the anti-Hillary hooey to believe that, which is what Sanders obviously wants you to think. Others who are more objective see it as his desperate ploy to malign her.

There are quite a few of her speeches already online, so you have to also make a huge leap to think other speeches are different than the content of what is already seen. LOL, like maybe, just maybe those speeches will deviate from all the others.

The bottom line is that it doesn't matter what is in those speeches since it's obvious they will be twisted to fit Sanders' narrow narrative. It's all performance art for him, and she knows it. We all know it. You just want to see her slandered even more.

R B Garr

(16,966 posts)
30. Oh, you too. Wall Street is his big money maker. He wants you to
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 10:17 AM
Apr 2016

send him your lunch money just for mentioning it. That's all he talks about even though the Wall Street meltdown was 8 years ago, two full terms of Obama's Presidency.

Enjoy!

Vinca

(50,300 posts)
18. Rumor has it he has a cow barn filled with dancing heifers.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 08:22 AM
Apr 2016

He takes a deduction for their satellite radio subscription.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
23. Millions to campaigns from lobbyists,
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 08:40 AM
Apr 2016

And ur worried about tax returns??

And Hillary feels sorry for Bernie supporters...

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
32. Funny how ,,,
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 10:25 AM
Apr 2016

u dont hear much any more abt Lobbyist money since Opensecrets.org starting listing all the money Bern is taking from Lobbyist.

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
33. There is no excuse for his not releasing a bunch of returns.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 10:25 AM
Apr 2016

I would have thought that his doing so would be a great way to shame his opponent.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
35. If I had to guess...
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 10:46 AM
Apr 2016

with the limited amount of information I've given a damn enough to internalize, I'd bet that they claim some of their assets and/or her income as expenses related to her role as campaign manager. If so, it's entirely possible that every claim is legal, but that they may look questionable. That, BTW, is being as generous as I can. It's not at all uncommon for filers to overstate the percentage of their assets used for business, and, even more common, to improperly depreciate and amortize said assets.

It's difficult to imagine any other scenario whereby they can claim such a large deductible.

At the very least, it's literally stupid for him to have his wife continuing to prepare their taxes, given his profile.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
36. No mention of them for months, suddenly they are apoplectic
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 10:56 AM
Apr 2016

That they must be released yesterday. The wacky world of Hillary support...

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
42. Many HIllary supporters have an authoritarian bent. Thus, they unquestioningly follow in line
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 12:02 PM
Apr 2016

wherever they are led.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
38. What rancid chew toy are you going to latch onto once he does release his returns?
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 11:54 AM
Apr 2016

You guys aren't going to hear the fucking end of it when he does release those returns. I'll ensure that there is post after post after fucking post reminding you of that.

Tanuki

(14,920 posts)
43. Maybe he's not hiding anything, and it's just a matter of being too disorganized and impaired at
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 12:06 PM
Apr 2016

multi-tasking. Now, what that says about his potential as Chief Executive of the U.S......

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
46. It certainly is suspicious. Well, it makes ME suspicious anyway...
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 01:22 PM
Apr 2016

... it's almost as if he's afraid of something getting out. I mean, seriously now... he should have known what would be expected BEFORE he even decided to run. This isn't really a "surprise" that caught him "off guard". This is something that should have been ready to go within weeks of first announcing.

It makes me wonder if he's actually running to win the nomination, or if he's just running to be running ... or running to "make a statement" and to "be heard".

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