Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
22 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Has any presidential candidate, ever, released transcripts of their speeches made to private groups, (Original Post) Nye Bevan Apr 2016 OP
Hillary hasn't been a "private individual" since like 1975. reformist2 Apr 2016 #1
Nope, you're wrong. Beacool Apr 2016 #3
Wasn't she a private individual starting on Feb 2, 2013, until she ran for president? (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #4
crickets...LOL! Recoverin_Republican Apr 2016 #2
Has any candidate ever made MILLIONS giving speeches to business interests? BillZBubb Apr 2016 #5
Hillary has taken so much money its ridiculous. Its like a joke that people still defend her on this reformist2 Apr 2016 #7
Exactly. Where three's smoke, there's fire! scscholar Apr 2016 #15
Frankly, I don't recall. Beacool Apr 2016 #6
So how do you manage that? JackRiddler Apr 2016 #22
I don't think so. MineralMan Apr 2016 #8
#8 of their 10 point plan Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #9
Have any Presidential candidates gone on a lucrative speaking tour prior to running for office? nt GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #10
No. What's your point. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #11
I think you'll get your wish. ucrdem Apr 2016 #12
You know what's in 'em. I know what's in 'em. Only one thing could happen upon their release... cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #13
Nothing would change except the object of their unseemly obsession. ucrdem Apr 2016 #14
Personally, I'm just ready for her to be gone. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #17
No.... It's a non issue uponit7771 Apr 2016 #16
I'm willing and ready to set the precedent. smiley Apr 2016 #18
Has any Democratic candidate even had tens of millions of dollars in income they did Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #19
First time i've ever seen it, and i've been around a while now. Lucinda Apr 2016 #20
No but probably because other candidates had similar transcripts they didn't want released Joob Apr 2016 #21

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
5. Has any candidate ever made MILLIONS giving speeches to business interests?
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 08:47 PM
Apr 2016

While at the same time professing to be tough on them?

Didn't think so.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
6. Frankly, I don't recall.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 08:48 PM
Apr 2016

But, I don't care about what she said in these speeches. The same way that I don't care what Sanders said either in any non-public speech he may have given. I care about the here and now.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
22. So how do you manage that?
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 10:59 PM
Apr 2016

Do you have like, a memory loop going, where every five hours or so you forget everything? Because you do seem to have an awfully short term understanding of "here and now." Surely I'm naive, to think that things people did in the recent past might indicate what they'll do in the middle term future. We should just leave this stuff to our superiors, like Clinton and Blankfein.

MineralMan

(146,325 posts)
8. I don't think so.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 08:49 PM
Apr 2016

She is under no obligation to do so, and I doubt she will. They are her property by contact as a private citizen. People may not like her decision, but it is hers to make.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
11. No. What's your point.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 08:54 PM
Apr 2016

And I'll tell you what, here's what I think about the whole transcripts kerfunkle:

We already KNOW what's in those transcripts. It's exactly what we would EXPECT to see. Those transcripts would show that Hillary tailors her message depending on who's waving the dollars. And she tells them whatever it is she thinks they want to hear. It's not rocket science. The first time a corporation heard she uttered a word against their existence/success would be the last time she was invited behind closed doors to speak with a corporation. Some people call that pandering. I would add that her pandering knows no boundaries up to and including the affectation of fake accents.

So who gives a shit about the transcripts? It's awesome to see Hillary's sycophants squirm, and I hope she DOESN'T release them for that reason.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
12. I think you'll get your wish.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 08:58 PM
Apr 2016

If Bernie wants to see her speeches he'll have to get a subpoena and stand in line with the rest of the VRWC which sad to say he's sounding more and more like.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
13. You know what's in 'em. I know what's in 'em. Only one thing could happen upon their release...
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 09:02 PM
Apr 2016

Pandermonium.

I'll simply stipulate to their content and be done with it (although I AM curious to know if she affected any fake accents depending on what state the corporation she was pandering to was headquartered in).

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
14. Nothing would change except the object of their unseemly obsession.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 09:08 PM
Apr 2016

Today it's her speeches, tomorrow it's her high school report card. Then the receipts for every box of Girls Scout cookies she CLAIMED she sold in grade school. And so on. It got ridiculous back around 1993.

smiley

(1,432 posts)
18. I'm willing and ready to set the precedent.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 09:28 PM
Apr 2016

And I think the American people deserve to know what she said in those speeches. I could give a rat's ass if it's never been asked of a presidential candidate before.

But that's just my opinion. It's all I got to go with.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
19. Has any Democratic candidate even had tens of millions of dollars in income they did
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 10:40 PM
Apr 2016

not care to be very transparent about? Obviously we've never had a candidate who has had speaking income comparable to hers, but every single candidate is fully vetted in their income generating work, none have ever said that their private sector work was secret, nor that it was off limits.

In 2008 I remember a great deal of stink about the property line at Obama's Chicago house and a neighbor and oh, some horrible scandal involving a foot of fencing or something. But Hillary is a millionaire from speeches no one can see. Does that seem like equal treatment?

"Hillary Rodham Clinton dropped the name of Barack Obama's Chicago patron into the South Carolina debate Monday night, putting front and center a tangled relationship that has the potential to undermine Obama's image as a candidate whose ethical standards are distinctly higher than those of his main opponent."
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jan/23/nation/na-rezko23

Joob

(1,065 posts)
21. No but probably because other candidates had similar transcripts they didn't want released
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 10:55 PM
Apr 2016

Until Bernie.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»Has any presidential cand...