2016 Postmortem

eridani

(51,907 posts) Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:59 AM Apr 2016

Clinton Believes She’s Special Kind Of Politician Who Can’t Be Influenced By Money

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/04/04/clinton-believes-shes-special-kind-politician-who-cant-be-influenced-mone

Of course, all of the above is ludicrous. Donations were made because lobbyists and executives think Clinton will win the general election, and they want to have a stake in whatever agenda she sets if she becomes president.

Eva Resnick-Day, a Greenpeace activist, is one of many activists who recognizes this is how money influences politics in the United States. She asked Clinton if she would reject fossil fuel money in the future. Clinton blew up and accused Resnick-Day of spreading the lies of the Sanders campaign.

As she described on Greenpeace’s website after video of her exchange with Clinton went viral, “Greenpeace USA, along with 20 other organizations, launched the pledge to #FixDemocracy, asking all presidential candidates to reject future fossil fuel contributions, champion campaign finance reform, and defend the right to vote for all.”

The pledge was immediately signed by Sanders. The Clinton campaign responded to the pledge but did not sign it. (None of the Republican candidates take a position that climate change is real so, of course, neither Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, nor John Kasich have signed the pledge.)

Hillary Clinton is personally aware that Greenpeace, 350 Action, and other groups have showed up to debates, rallies, fundraisers, and events, which she has attended. She knows they’ve tried to pressure her into signing the pledge. Environmental activists also have asked her questions before, but this time—perhaps because Sanders won five of the last six states in landslide victories—Clinton thought the Sanders campaign had dispatched her to mount an attack.

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Clinton Believes She’s Special Kind Of Politician Who Can’t Be Influenced By Money (Original Post) eridani Apr 2016 OP

I do not believe that many candidates are evil (except a few republicans) however I do believe hollysmom Apr 2016 #1

Clinton Believes She’s Special Kind Of Politician Who Can’t Be Influenced By Money pdsimdars Apr 2016 #2

An extremely lucrative delusion. n/t RufusTFirefly Apr 2016 #3

Apparently this is what the precoronated queen believes. longship Apr 2016 #4

Sanders lobbied Wall Street for money and took the money through the DCCC for his campaigns so uponit7771 Apr 2016 #5

You're correct, and I can prove it ... Scuba Apr 2016 #8

Good we agree... Sanders has rallies Clinton has voters who vote uponit7771 Apr 2016 #9

You might want to know, it's primary election day here in Wisconsin. Scuba Apr 2016 #10

Because she's never been influenced. She was bought from the starting gun. nt VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #6

She seems to care about money more than voters. Vinca Apr 2016 #7

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)

1. I do not believe that many candidates are evil (except a few republicans) however I do believe

Reply to eridani (Original post)

Tue Apr 5, 2016, 03:28 AM

Apr 2016

that people can believe they are not being influenced, but the fact is that you are influenced by the people who you are around, even if only for a while. The problem is that money = access and if you are around wall street people a lot (like say a son-in-law) those people would influence you just by osmosis. And if you don't have money, the odds are you won't get access. And there by hangs the tale. I am sure being able to pay 334K to sit next to Clinton and Clooney will mean someone who is not a Clooney fan but wants the ear of Clinton will be sitting there. And this person will say what all rich people say in that particular circle of rich people who have no concept of what living without luxuries is really like

Now I post on a lot of different kinds of boards - hobby, tV, etc. and we get into discussion of politics now and again, and I think the one thing I have not been able to beat into people's heads is that it cost more to be poor than to have money, transportation when you don't have a car, lack of access to fresh food in poor neighborhoods, even borrowing money comes at a higher interest rate. If I can't convince people who are not rich, good luck with breaking through the people who have a lot and don't think twice about hiring people to do some waiting for you.

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)

2. Clinton Believes She’s Special Kind Of Politician Who Can’t Be Influenced By Money

Reply to eridani (Original post)

Tue Apr 5, 2016, 03:30 AM

Apr 2016

Despite evidence to the contrary.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)

3. An extremely lucrative delusion. n/t

Reply to eridani (Original post)

Tue Apr 5, 2016, 03:48 AM

Apr 2016

longship

(40,416 posts)

4. Apparently this is what the precoronated queen believes.

Reply to eridani (Original post)

Tue Apr 5, 2016, 04:12 AM

Apr 2016

Of course, her followers are even more insufferable.

Yup! I will vote for her if she gets the nod. But thanks to her and her supporters sense of entitlement, it will be the most difficult vote of my life.

The US presidency is not a family position.

uponit7771

(90,359 posts)

5. Sanders lobbied Wall Street for money and took the money through the DCCC for his campaigns so

Reply to eridani (Original post)

Tue Apr 5, 2016, 07:45 AM

Apr 2016

... no one is listening to him demonizing others for talking to Wall Street

Scuba

(53,475 posts)

8. You're correct, and I can prove it ...

Reply to uponit7771 (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 5, 2016, 08:17 AM

Apr 2016

Here's a picture of people lined up to not listen to Bernie Sanders ...

And here's a picture of thousands of them not listening ...

Here's another pic of thousands of them not listening ...

It's clear, Americans are ignoring Bernie Sanders in droves!