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Are there some new bad #'s for Hillary coming out? (Original Post) HooptieWagon Apr 2016 OP
Hoping for a trifecta. dchill Apr 2016 #1
I would astrophuss42 Apr 2016 #2
Definitely signs of despair coming from the Clinton camp ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #3
It's like being on the front row at a Gallagher show Fumesucker Apr 2016 #4
They lost WI long ago, so that's not it. It is most likely bad internals in NY. morningfog Apr 2016 #5
it seems to be all about wall street reddread Apr 2016 #6
Of the three you mentioned demwing Apr 2016 #7
No, what is happening is that Bernie is finally being vetted by the media. athena Apr 2016 #8
Wow, so Bernie has plateaued? Peaked? Hit his apex? demwing Apr 2016 #10
It's also very ironic athena Apr 2016 #12
Since you're so sure of "bad #'s", let hear your authoritative estimate of how Sanders will do? brooklynite Apr 2016 #9
Naw. Bernie will win Wisconsin - it is an open primary cosmicone Apr 2016 #11
Lower that bar, dude. Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #13
 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
6. it seems to be all about wall street
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:10 AM
Apr 2016

they probably want to throw as much dirt at the subject as they can prior to the debate
so she can sell some preplanned explanation on her way down the chute.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
7. Of the three you mentioned
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:11 AM
Apr 2016

two are no longer controllable.

Too late to change what happens today in WI, and if an indictment is coming, it's coming regardless of any options that are are available at this time. Way too late to avoid that bomb.

Clinton has got to be most focused on NY. If she loses there, I think Bernie is right, and he will win the nomination - even if he doesn't hit his 56% delegate threshold in the state. If Bernie wins NY, it changes everything going forward. That's the only challenge that Clinton can still influence, and so whatever we are seeing in terms of her team's panic and vitriol, the NY primary is at the heart of that storm.

athena

(4,187 posts)
8. No, what is happening is that Bernie is finally being vetted by the media.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:12 AM
Apr 2016

Lots of bad news has come out about Bernie lately, and it's all his own fault:

1. He accused Hillary of being supported by the oil industry, and then demanded that she apologize when she pointed out that his campaign was lying. The Washington Post gave Bernie three Pinocchios for that:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/04/02/fact-checking-the-clinton-sanders-spat-over-big-oil-contributions/

2. He did not release his full tax returns, and then lied about it. The Washington Post gave him four Pinocchios for that:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/04/05/bernie-sanderss-false-claim-that-he-has-released-his-full-federal-tax-returns/

3. And finally, he showed that he does not actually know how to accomplish his promise of breaking up the big banks:
http://m.nydailynews.com/opinion/transcript-bernie-sanders-meets-news-editorial-board-article-1.2588306

It looks like the tide has turned against Bernie. Enjoy the rest of the election!

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
10. Wow, so Bernie has plateaued? Peaked? Hit his apex?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:24 AM
Apr 2016


Such predictions from the past months have always proved spurious, and are always followed by Bernie victories.

Thanks! I think I will enjoy the rest of the election!

athena

(4,187 posts)
12. It's also very ironic
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:35 AM
Apr 2016

that when GD-P is not 100% anti-Hillary but instead, say, 95% anti-Hillary, Bernie supporters say the anti-Bernie posts by Hillary supporters suggest that Hillary's numbers must be bad.

So what do all the anti-Hillary posts by Bernie supporters (the ones that make up 95% of GD-P) suggest about Bernie's numbers?

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
11. Naw. Bernie will win Wisconsin - it is an open primary
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:33 AM
Apr 2016

The problem is, he will not win by enough and will fall further behind.

If he doesn't win it by 58-42, he loses.

#feelthemath

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