2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHot off the press Keystone State Poll -Clinton 55% -Sanders 33%
http://harperpolling.com/polls/pennsylvania-democratic-primary-poll--4-2-3
book_worm
(15,951 posts)18-39 year olds are relatively close 51-40 for Bernie. HRC takes 40-54 58-29, 55-65 54-39 & 66 and up 61-23. Females are for HRC 60-27. Males 49-40 for HRC.
By area:
Erie 47-37 (Bernie)
Harrisburg/Lancaster 42-41 (Clinton)
Johnstown/Altoona 51-40 (Clinton)
Philadelphia 64-28 (Clinton)
Pittsburgh 53-32 (Clinton)
Wilkes-Barre/Scranton 48-35 (Clinton)
Youngstown 75-25 (Clinton)
http://harperpolling.com/docs/default-source/default-document-library/16-04-hp-pa-statewide-dem-primary-crosstabs.pdf?sfvrsn=0
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)iAZZZo
(358 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)DESPITE Philly and other urban areas going for Obama, I think it'll be a VERY good state for her this cycle.
mcar
(42,372 posts)I'm a native Pennsylvanian but the 80s era Celtics were my team.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)mcar
(42,372 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Hasn't hurt his free throw shooting much, though.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Oh... great poll numbers!
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)We've been hearing "it's game over" since Sanders announced.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)When I was a kid I loved professional wrestling and wanted to be a professional wrestler...I must have been about thirteen years old and I was wrestling with my friend in his backyard. I had him in a pile driver but didn't consummate the hold because, even then, I knew I could break his neck and really get in trouble.
What does that have to do with DU?
One of the staples of professional wrestling was "the loser leaves town" match...
How about a "loser leaves DU" wager. If Hillary loses I leave DU forever. If Bernie loses you leave DU forever.
That way we both have a real stake in the outcome.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)I even remember his name. Any way I had his head between my legs and was about to finish the move but decided not to.I let him out. I knew wrestling was fake, even then, and didn't want to hurt/ kill my friend and/or end up in juvey.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)is rather disturbing IMO. And again, TMI.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)" I knew wrestling was fake, even then, and didn't want to hurt/ kill my friend and/or end up in juvey.
I didn't want to hurt him/anybody AND I didn't want to go to juvenile detention.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)something about this
"I had him in a pile driver but didn't consummate the hold because, even then, I knew I could break his neck and really get in trouble."
seems odd.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)It's all good.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)99% of whom will be those who don't realize what a closed primary means.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)so vewy verwy sowwy it doesn't work that way in the GE - when few of Bernie's supporters will come to heel for Hillary
Tarc
(10,476 posts)Perpetually agitated internet forum-goers are not representative of the whole.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Why would we care?
livetohike
(22,160 posts)Jarqui
(10,130 posts)A funny thing happens to Hillary's polls when Bernie starts campaigning in the state ...
She was +49 in Wisconsin ... and now she's losing ...
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Michigan is open.
Jarqui
(10,130 posts)Time => April 26th is the primary
And he's already working their neighbor, New York.
And the other states voting around that time all border New York or are very close: PA, CT, RI, MD, DE
Another is there are even fewer blacks than Michigan 11.x%
I think MD and DE might be tougher in that regard though these are northern states so the black vote won't be as heavy for Clinton as the south and I think blacks are starting to come around for Bernie.
Like Michigan, the folks in PA aren't going to like Hillary's stance on free trade.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)With lots of data to look at.
Thanks for the post!
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Bernie WILL turn this around. More stories from Panama Papers. I can't wait to see the lists of traitors of our country. Bet Bill and Hill are right there too.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Jitter65
(3,089 posts)Sky Masterson
(5,240 posts)Hillary gets 100% of the vote of those who lack Object Permanence and 0% of those who remember her cowardly "Yes" vote for the Iraq War.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)You mean the Cowardly "Yes" vote that the sitting vice President, the sitting Secretary Of State, and 58% of Senate Democrats made:
58% of Democratic senators (29 of 50) voted for the Iraq War Resolutio. Those voting for the resolution were:
Bayh, Evan (D-IN)
Baucus, Max (D-MT)
Biden, Joseph (D-DE)
Breaux, John (D-LA)
Cantwell, Maria (D-WA)
Carnahan, Jean (D-MO)
Carper, Thomas (D-DE)
Cleland, Max (D-GA)
Clinton, Hillary (D-NY)
Daschle, Tom (D-SD)
Dodd, Chris (D-CT)
Dorgan, Byron (D-ND)
Edwards, John (D-NC)
Feinstein, Dianne (D-CA)
Harkin, Tom (D-IA)
Hollings, Ernest (D-SC)
Johnson, Tim (D-SD)
Kerry, John (D-MA)
Kohl, Herb (D-WI)
Landrieu, Mary (D-LA)
Lieberman, Joseph (D-CT)
Lincoln, Blanche (D-AR)
Miller, Zell (D-GA)
Nelson, Ben (D-NE)
Nelson, Bill (D-FL)
Reid, Harry (D-NV)
Rockefeller, Jay (D-WV)
Schumer, Chuck (D-NY)
Torricelli, Robert (D-NJ)
Wow, that's some highfalutin intellectual concept. It hasn't worked its way down to us plebeians yet.
Sky Masterson
(5,240 posts)She did sell the lie though.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)As long as you hold Secretary Kerry, Vice President Biden, and the 58% of Senate Democrats who voted for the Iraq War Resolution in the same low esteem then I will not question the righteousness of your outrage.
I just see it differently.
Sky Masterson
(5,240 posts)But only one of them are running for president at the moment.
Truth be known is that Obama probably would have voted for it too.
I'm sure you do see it differently.
Love the Ali BTW . Greatest boxer of all time!
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)It was an awful vote and I believe all three of them; Kerry, Biden, and Clinton, had the presidency on their mind when they made that vote.
I opposed it from the jump because we had Saddam in a box with the no fly zones and sanctions. He was strong enough to deter Iran but too weak to threaten his neighbors.
I just chose to move past it.