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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:22 PM Apr 2016

Comey: No Rush To Finish FBI Investigation Of Clinton Before Democratic Convention

This is now a real risk to the GE. If anything negative comes out of the investigation, and seriously, it just needs to be negative, not and indictment, it will significantly hurt the chances of a Democratic White House for the next term should she win the nomination. There are a ton of implications, not the least of which is the SCOTUS.

Hillary is irresponsible to continue her campaign with this hanging over her head and she not only puts her own chances at risk, but the very lives of American people at stake.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/fbi-hillary-clinton-email-investigation-timeline-221565

FBI director: No rush to finish Clinton email probe before convention


FBI Director James Comey said he feels no urgency to wrap up the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s email server before the political conventions this summer.
Comey was speaking on Monday to representatives of local law-enforcement agencies in Buffalo, New York, when he was asked about the FBI’s probe of the former secretary of state’s email system, according to the Niagara Gazette.
Making sure the inquiry is done "well" is more important than speed, he responded, even as the Democratic primary season draws to a close.
"The urgency is to do it well and promptly," Comey said. "And 'well' comes first" — meaning that the investigation could still be ongoing during the Democratic National Convention in July, he said.
While Comey wouldn’t divulge any details of the investigation, he did say that he is keeping close tabs on it “to make sure we have the resources to do it competently."
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Comey: No Rush To Finish FBI Investigation Of Clinton Before Democratic Convention (Original Post) berni_mccoy Apr 2016 OP
can you imagine the uproar mooseprime Apr 2016 #1
Desperation in the Sanders ranks. When you can't win on the merits.....act like Republicans. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #2
Reporting news and calling out facts is now acting Republican? berni_mccoy Apr 2016 #3
There will be no last minute salvation for the Sanders campaign. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #4
What would you say if Sanders was under FBI investigation? kristopher Apr 2016 #6
He's a fringe candidate. I don't think I would care one way or the other. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #11
Terrible attempt at evasion. kristopher Apr 2016 #13
No, I wouldn't care. This email nonsense is much to do about nothing IMO. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #16
Not prepared for the digital age? llugo1013 Apr 2016 #26
The whole government has an email problem. Their computer networks are archaic. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #29
A systemic problem? CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #59
You are naive to think that it doesn't happen everyday in government. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #60
It's NEVER, EVER happened. Any you know it. CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #61
Sure, Secretary of State Ashe Carter admitted using private email for work related purposes Trust Buster Apr 2016 #62
Are you willing to listen? CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #63
Insecure is insecure, personal server or not. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #64
Actually no... CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #65
I understand the basics. Powell sending communications via private email is every bit insecure. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #66
Yes CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #67
Give it up with this guy. TM99 Apr 2016 #77
The "fringe candidate" has been kicking your candidate's arse the past few weeks. HughLefty1 Apr 2016 #21
Not really. He's flooded small caucuses with college kids full of promises that he cannot deliver. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #22
"Fringe candidate"? angrychair Apr 2016 #23
The fact that they aren't going to have this wrapped up by the convention.. frylock Apr 2016 #46
Twistin' the night away Fumesucker Apr 2016 #5
How do you just eat up the nonsense this Republican Comey shovels out? CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #7
And a Democrat, Barack Obama, put him in his current position! nm floriduck Apr 2016 #42
He can't say anything else. kristopher Apr 2016 #8
I think that it's an intentional warning to the Democratic Party. berni_mccoy Apr 2016 #10
That was my read as well. frylock Apr 2016 #48
Since Hillary wont be indicted, I see no reason for them to be in a hurry. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #9
Does it have to be indictment? It's the AG who decides whether to seek and unseal a Grand Jury vote leveymg Apr 2016 #12
And can you provide the link where you got the information that Hillary will not be indicted? pdsimdars Apr 2016 #35
I am a liberal, and therefore support the Democratic Party, and from what I have read Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #38
TRANSLATION: David Brock said it's not going to happen, so I'm going to clap as loud as I can. frylock Apr 2016 #49
Silly remark. You are talking to someone who doesnt give a shit about the Democratic Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #50
NEWS FLASH: I don't give a shit about the Democratic Party either. frylock Apr 2016 #52
Hillary's ambition is more important than the well-being of the Democratic Party AgerolanAmerican Apr 2016 #14
HRC and the DNC are on a suicide mission. dchill Apr 2016 #36
Hey, doesn't that make her the ultimate BernieBro? pdsimdars Apr 2016 #37
I suppose it might AgerolanAmerican Apr 2016 #39
Another possibility creeksneakers2 Apr 2016 #55
I wish Hillary Clinton would be proactive and go publically to the FBI PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #15
So silly jcgoldie Apr 2016 #17
You are wrong. Many 840high Apr 2016 #25
Right.. could really sway the election jcgoldie Apr 2016 #28
Democratically? Politicalboi Apr 2016 #31
It means getting a couple million more votes jcgoldie Apr 2016 #45
What that means is that you haven't listened to anyone pdsimdars Apr 2016 #40
Great. The timing couldn't be better . . . for the Republicans. Vinca Apr 2016 #18
And Comey is a Repub so... dana_b Apr 2016 #32
The fact that Comey is a republican xloadiex Apr 2016 #53
Because she HAS to be President. dchill Apr 2016 #34
Ho-hum Tarc Apr 2016 #19
Hmm. Will have to mull the latest tea leaves nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #20
I'm trying to spin a delay as good for Hillary... riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #69
We were mulling over it nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #70
Oooh #4... riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #71
You have to always consider all angles nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #72
lunch on me if I ever get to San Diego? riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #73
We should do that nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #74
I can hablo espanol in my terrible spanish riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #75
I know of a couple holes in the wall that are pretty good nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #76
Jajaja! Bien! Mi tambien. nt riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #78
...and if you're ever in LA! Hit me up! JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #80
Will do nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #81
Oh, my prophetic soul! merrily Apr 2016 #24
And she doesn't care Politicalboi Apr 2016 #27
.+1 840high Apr 2016 #30
My worry pdsimdars Apr 2016 #33
If that were to happen... TCJ70 Apr 2016 #41
I fear if that happened they would bring Biden in-- Land of Enchantment Apr 2016 #51
Weren't you recently saying an indictment was coming ... JoePhilly Apr 2016 #43
What is hanging over her head? MineralMan Apr 2016 #44
James Watt-Secretary of the Interior under St. Ronald catnhatnh Apr 2016 #54
You don't know your history~Teapot Dome anyone? merbex Apr 2016 #57
Sounds to me like the indictment fairy is unfolding her gossamer wings. frylock Apr 2016 #47
Of course he had to say that. DCBob Apr 2016 #56
No, she will probably not indicted, sadoldgirl Apr 2016 #58
Yup. Most are missing the point that the damage is already done. berni_mccoy Apr 2016 #68
Did you see this? Originally posted by TheDormouse? notadmblnd Apr 2016 #79
 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
3. Reporting news and calling out facts is now acting Republican?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:24 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary people are really losing their grip on reality.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
6. What would you say if Sanders was under FBI investigation?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:28 PM
Apr 2016

That's a simple, straightforward question. How about an answer?

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
16. No, I wouldn't care. This email nonsense is much to do about nothing IMO.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:44 PM
Apr 2016

The whole government was unprepared fro the digital age. Still is.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
29. The whole government has an email problem. Their computer networks are archaic.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:35 PM
Apr 2016

All of our government systems are being hacked. All of our email procedures are slip shod. Even the Secretary of Defense, Ashe Carter, just admitted to using private emails for official business. If we were to audit the private emails of Congressmen and women serving on committees with security clearance, I think you know what will be found. This is a systemic problem. That is what I think the FBI's conclusion will be.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
59. A systemic problem?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 06:00 PM
Apr 2016

I don't know if you are intentionally blowing smoke or if you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

What Clinton did was outrageous. So outrageous that it is unprecedented. No other high-level government official had an unsecured, personal server that was used as a primary means of transmitting classified emails.

The FBI has categorized 22 of Clinton's emails as "Top Secret", the highest level of classification--in addition to other emails that were deemed "classified."

President Obama didn't know about this private server.

To suggest that what Clinton did is somehow the product of confusion or some kind of widespread problem due to a complex, digital age--is complete bunk.

And stop saying that others have engaged in similar actions. Carter Ashe, Condi Rice and Colin Powell used their government-issued computers to send a few personal emails from their gmail/AOL accounts.

There is a huge difference between sending a personal email on a government computer--and routing ALL of your government emails through a personal, unsecured server.

Many Duer's really need to do their homework. Unless you enjoy sitting in the dark, completely ignorant about what your candidate of choice is up against. This is incredible serious. I feel that many of you will be in complete trauma mode as this crisis unfolds.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
61. It's NEVER, EVER happened. Any you know it.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 06:21 PM
Apr 2016

You know that what Hillary Clinton is accused of doing, has NEVER happened.

Never, has a high-level government official set up a private, unsecured email server in their home.

NEVER.

If you think this happens everyday, then I am sure you will have NO PROBLEM listing the names and titles of those government officials who have also set up a private, unsecured email server in their home.

This has never happened. It's unprecedented.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
62. Sure, Secretary of State Ashe Carter admitted using private email for work related purposes
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 06:24 PM
Apr 2016

just a scant few months ago. Powell did it. Rice did it. You have to know the problem is endemic.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
63. Are you willing to listen?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 06:29 PM
Apr 2016

There is a big difference between what Ashe, Powell and Rice did. Yes, they used their non-work email addresses (their Gmail and their AOL) to send personal emails.

That is one thing. Still with me?

What Clinton did, has NOTHING to do with that.

All of Clinton's correspondence was routed through an unsecured, private email server that was in her own home.

Condi, Powell and Ashe never did this. EVER.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
65. Actually no...
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 06:36 PM
Apr 2016

Have you not done any reading about this subject?

You seem to lack any sort of understanding of the basics.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
67. Yes
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 09:46 PM
Apr 2016

But Colin Powell never sent email through a private server.

Hillary's private server is the reason she is being investigated by the FBI.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
77. Give it up with this guy.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:08 AM
Apr 2016

He is intentionally obtuse so he can stay on Team Clinton agenda point.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
22. Not really. He's flooded small caucuses with college kids full of promises that he cannot deliver.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:55 PM
Apr 2016

She's handled him quite nicely in the primaries. Thus the huge delegate lead. That's my opinion.

angrychair

(8,733 posts)
23. "Fringe candidate"?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:05 PM
Apr 2016

He has won 15 states and the Democrats Abroad primary. He has bested her in fund raising 3 months in a row, March by $15 million dollars. He has broken every fund-raising and participation record on the books. He has had the largest rallies of any candidate, D or R. He has out raised every republican for months.
Sanders is the only candidate running with positive likability and trustworthy numbers.
He is the only candidate that beats all republican candidates and has been for months.

By no definition is Sanders a "fringe candidate".

frylock

(34,825 posts)
46. The fact that they aren't going to have this wrapped up by the convention..
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 04:31 PM
Apr 2016

should be of little comfort to you. In fact, if she were my candidate, now would be the time that I started shitting bricks.

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
7. How do you just eat up the nonsense this Republican Comey shovels out?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:29 PM
Apr 2016

You're playing right into his hands, as this "leak" or "announcement" is nothing but an attempt to influence the Democratic primary. It's an empty threat that only a complete yokel would fall for, at this point.

James Brien Comey, Jr. is an American lawyer. He is the seventh and current Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. He was the United States Deputy Attorney General, serving in President George W. Bush's administration. Wikipedia
Born: December 14, 1960 (age 55), Yonkers, NY
Height: 6? 8?
Spouse: Patrice Failor (m. 1987)
Party: Republican Party
Education: University of Chicago Law School (1985), College of William & Mary (1982), University of Chicago
 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
10. I think that it's an intentional warning to the Democratic Party.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:30 PM
Apr 2016

Giving them a chance to bail on Hillary before it's too late.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
48. That was my read as well.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 04:34 PM
Apr 2016

If there was no evidence of wrongdoing, they could have this wrapped up post-haste.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
9. Since Hillary wont be indicted, I see no reason for them to be in a hurry.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:29 PM
Apr 2016

When the FBI says there is an investigation and does NOT say they are targeting Hillary for some wrongdoing, and then on a message board you hear hundreds of times a day how Hillary might be indicted, you have an agenda.

Not you, the collective you who pushes this nonsense.


leveymg

(36,418 posts)
12. Does it have to be indictment? It's the AG who decides whether to seek and unseal a Grand Jury vote
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:38 PM
Apr 2016

The FBI report will probably say she violated the terms of the Security Oath she signed on 01/22/09. Will that be enough for you, or does there actually have to be an indictment for you agree she'll have to release her delegates?

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
35. And can you provide the link where you got the information that Hillary will not be indicted?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:52 PM
Apr 2016

I'd love to see it. I've heard from a number of people who are involved in that whole "security" career and they have their hair on fire about this. They say what she did was outrageous.
Where's your "don't worry, be happy" link about this?

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
38. I am a liberal, and therefore support the Democratic Party, and from what I have read
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:55 PM
Apr 2016

from non GOP sources, it is pretty clear she is not being indicted.

But that is my way of thinking, as a liberal.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
50. Silly remark. You are talking to someone who doesnt give a shit about the Democratic
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 04:42 PM
Apr 2016

party, but I can see the forest, so to speak.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
52. NEWS FLASH: I don't give a shit about the Democratic Party either.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 04:57 PM
Apr 2016

They were only effective when in opposition to the Republicans. Once they stopped doing that, they outlived their usefulness.

 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
14. Hillary's ambition is more important than the well-being of the Democratic Party
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:41 PM
Apr 2016

It's the only explanation for why she is still in the race, under cloud of investigation for extremely serious national security crimes. She is willing to take the risk of being indicted and destroying the party's chances, handing the race to the GOP. Or maybe she thinks she can still win after being indicted, which might be even more odious.

dchill

(38,521 posts)
36. HRC and the DNC are on a suicide mission.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:52 PM
Apr 2016

If she can't win, they're taking us all down with them. They just DON'T CARE about ANYTHING or ANYONE ELSE!

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
37. Hey, doesn't that make her the ultimate BernieBro?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:54 PM
Apr 2016

I mean if she can't be the nominee, what does the Democratic party mean. . . there are no other considerations for her if she can't be the nominee.

 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
39. I suppose it might
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:56 PM
Apr 2016

if the only other option was an extremely corrupt corporatist warhawk

but it just so happens that we do have a better alternative to Clinton than that

PufPuf23

(8,822 posts)
15. I wish Hillary Clinton would be proactive and go publically to the FBI
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:44 PM
Apr 2016

to do any and everything to reconcile this issue ASAP so it is not hanging over the POTUS election cycle.

I am not a supporter of Hillary Clinton but I do not think that she will be indicted or pay any other negative cost because of the email investigation.

Expect to hear repeatedly from the GOP during the general election campaign about the FBI investigation of the email issue.

If Hillary Clinton is indicted or found responsible without punishment, the GOP wins POTUS if Clinton is our candidate.

jcgoldie

(11,639 posts)
17. So silly
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:47 PM
Apr 2016

Nobody much cares about nor understands what was done wrong in this fake scandal. Nobody that is except those who see an opportunity to steal an election they couldn't win democratically. That will continue into the fall to be sure. And it will continue to be a non-issue to everyone except those who have already cast their lots with the opposition.

jcgoldie

(11,639 posts)
28. Right.. could really sway the election
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:34 PM
Apr 2016

Think of all the independent voters on the fence between her and Donald Trump who will make their decision based on the fact that she kept emails on a server in her basement...

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
31. Democratically?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:38 PM
Apr 2016

Does that mean sending your loser of a husband to suppress the votes at the polls? Democratically indeed. That's STEALING. This is LAW.

jcgoldie

(11,639 posts)
45. It means getting a couple million more votes
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 04:26 PM
Apr 2016

That "loser of a husband" who happens to be one of the strongest advocates the democratic party has and oversaw a pretty damn nice stretch of American history must be really effective at voter suppression.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
40. What that means is that you haven't listened to anyone
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:56 PM
Apr 2016

They had Mukasey talking about it and the people who are seriously into the intelligence community are outraged at the things she did. You obviously haven't been listening.

Vinca

(50,302 posts)
18. Great. The timing couldn't be better . . . for the Republicans.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:48 PM
Apr 2016

If she's indicted we're screwed. If she's not indicted they run from July to November on the idea it's an Obama cover-up. Why did she have to cause this self-inflicted wound?

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
69. I'm trying to spin a delay as good for Hillary...
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:43 PM
Apr 2016

I can't believe Comey is being a partisan. I just can't. I know it looks like it from the outside (he's a republican so stringing this out is good for republicans if HRC is finally installed as the nominee).

But honestly, if its taking longer to investigate her "stuff", I can only think there's more there than they thought.

And Comey has never been anything other than a straight shooter. Why damage his reputation trying to throw an election? He'd go down as devil's spawn forever and I can't see him doing that at this late stage of his career....

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
70. We were mulling over it
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:50 PM
Apr 2016

1.- They decided to go partisan... ah internal fights are always fun. It is possible

2.- They have more than they thought, ergo they have to make this stick, or the Grand Jury is taking more time. Either is possible.

3.- They are having a problem making a case. (Yes that is also a possibility),

Hubby is more inclined at number 1... because of the likely conflict between AG Lynch and Commey.

I have fourth one, they are in the middle of negotiations with Clinton, aka this is the shit we have... do you really want us to proceed to trial?

Time will tell.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
75. I can hablo espanol in my terrible spanish
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:01 AM
Apr 2016

learned from my Mexican employees and you can laugh and laugh....



 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
27. And she doesn't care
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:34 PM
Apr 2016

It's Her Turn!!!!!!!

Facts and laws be damned. I hope she is found guilty before November. If Bernie is out I still don't care. I want to see her in jail if she broke the law. Let this whole mess end up in her lap. She is scum.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
33. My worry
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:48 PM
Apr 2016

They have the convention and nominate Hillary and then the indictment comes. Can they just nominate anyone they want at that point? Maybe that's the final fire wall. Nominate Hillary, drop her out, and then nominate whoever you want. Could that happen?
After this primary campaign, I would put nothing past them.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
41. If that were to happen...
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:57 PM
Apr 2016

...and Sanders wasn't approached about it, it would mean certain defeat in the GE. No questions asked.

Land of Enchantment

(1,217 posts)
51. I fear if that happened they would bring Biden in--
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 04:51 PM
Apr 2016

after ll they have kept him waiting in the wings for some reason. Good question.


MineralMan

(146,325 posts)
44. What is hanging over her head?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 03:27 PM
Apr 2016

You are assuming that an indictment will occur. Why? I think it is far more likely that it will not. It would be unprecedented to indict a Secretary of State for actions taken during her time in that position. It has never happened to any Cabinet officer, as far as I know. The likelihood seems minuscule to me.

I think there is literally nothing hanging over her head with regard to this.

merbex

(3,123 posts)
57. You don't know your history~Teapot Dome anyone?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:41 PM
Apr 2016

[link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teapot_Dome_scandal|

A Presidential Cabinet member went to jail.

Today's issue involves national security.......which is worse?

Or have we arrived at the point that some people are above the law?

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
58. No, she will probably not indicted,
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:45 PM
Apr 2016

but what might happen is the decision
from the FBI will say "Insufficient evidence".

In that case, if she has become the nominee,
the whole GE debates will be about suspicions.

That would decide the elections.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
79. Did you see this? Originally posted by TheDormouse?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:10 AM
Apr 2016

FBI Director Comey has a history with the Clintons
Comey’s first brush with them (Bill & Hillary Clinton) came when Bill Clinton was president. Looking to get back into government after a stint in private practice, Comey signed on as deputy special counsel to the Senate Whitewater Committee. In 1996, after months of work, Comey came to some damning conclusions: Hillary Clinton was personally involved in mishandling documents and had ordered others to block investigators as they pursued their case. Worse, her behavior fit into a pattern of concealment: she and her husband had tried to hide their roles in two other matters under investigation by law enforcement. Taken together, the interference by White House officials, which included destruction of documents, amounted to “far more than just aggressive lawyering or political naiveté,” Comey and his fellow investigators concluded. It constituted “a highly improper pattern of deliberate misconduct.”

Comey parlayed the Whitewater job into top posts in Virginia and New York, returning to Manhattan in 2002 to be the top federal prosecutor there. One of his first cases as a line attorney in the same office 15 years earlier had been the successful prosecution of Marc Rich, a wealthy international financier, for tax evasion. But on his last day as President in 2001, Bill Clinton pardoned Rich. “I was stunned,” Comey later told Congress. As top U.S. prosecutor in New York in 2002, appointed by George W. Bush, Comey inherited the criminal probe into the Rich pardon and 175 others Clinton had made at the 11th hour.
http://time.com/4276988/jim-comey-hillary-clinton/

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