so accurate

It's all over the papers and news here.

And Vermont, proportionally, send a shitload of guns.

they aren't true.

Sanders did however make those remarks about Sandy Hook.

And have already been shown to be utter nonsense.

Team Hillary is really falling apart. Going back to the old lies. I thought they had a fresh batch.

please, If I'm to hang a man, I'd rather not do it based on lies or rumors.

every news station up here.

a legal product, like a car, a gun, a case of whiskey, a cigarette, an axe, a wood-chipper, a crowbar, or whatever, when someone uses the legal product to commit a crime or harm themselves with.

If the product is faulty, and causes injury to oneself for others, then yes.

Not being ignorant of he law one then realizes that the way to stop the crime is to make the product either illegal, or very restricted and regulated. Such is reality, and he holds the same stance as Obama regarding how to combat gun crime in a country that won't allow us to make them illegal like in sane countries because of that pesky (and mis-interpreted by our highest court) and it's second amendment.

It's right there..... and this is on every single news program today in New York City.

I found the link, and see the deception and Rovian smear in a misleading headline, as well as a one liner from you.

I replied to you for context that exposes the bullshit. After finding the link myself. You, I had heard are a lawyer, you (unless you are not) should understand why the answer does not lie in suing a manufacturer for selling a legal product misused by a criminal, would not win in court, and so the answer lies either in making the product illegal (I wish we could, but the second amendment makes that a very tough hurdle), or restrict, regulate and try too severely increase the hurdle to gain ownership of said product,
Sanders want to do just that and holds the same stance as Obama, and would even completely ban assault weapons if he had his druthers.


This is nothing mote than a deliberate and calculated smear against someone that is on board with Obama on gun control and an ally against the NRA. all for bullshit political short term gains that are dishonest and quite frankly reek of Rove skeevy stench.

And I do not believe in making special laws to protect special manufacturers.

and where do you get your talking points.

First, the questioners were "leading the witness" as you would call it, now you re-direct to something away from the issue at hand that does not exist.

They hold no special shield that auto manufacturers or crowbar manufacturers do not enjoy as far as I know.

You really are a lawyer IOW skilled professional liar (a broad brush I use for most lawyers especially the ones that support rapists of 12 year old girls the way Hilary enjoyed doing.)

Lawyers, save a few, have no shame or ethics, they only care about "winning" at all cost.

edited to add, I have a medical appointment, keep the Rove alive and keep on truckin with your lie based attacks!

when someone needs one.

What is being proposed is a special law to make it possible to punish manufacturers of a special product for making that legally permisable product when it is misused or used in commission of a crime. That is what Bernie Sanders opposes. BTW, I am not a member nor a sympathiser of the NRA and do not even own a gun.

but not on the fact that suing a manufacturer for the intentional misuse of its product is wrong.

Was used precisely as it was marketed and intended to be used.

Man, she works hard to be at the top of the least trusted list. Good work Hillary. At least she is the best at something . . . smears and disinformation. Woo-hoo! You go girl.

disaster.
And people who know better say what Bernie said was absolutely correct.
Don't you guys ever get tired of getting things wrong?

No time for shiny object bullshit today, thanks.

This would bring no value to my life.

Feel free to post this one if you like. I get the feeling they'll be posting
numerous repeats of the same junk...there's something like 10 of the same
on the board now.

to shoot itself in the foot as often as possible. It's unbelievable. It seems as though every big caper they come up with to take down SBS accomplishes the opposite of what they want. This will too. I wonder if this will lead that super delegate to reconsider the HRC support.

Does anyone else wonder if this is also how an HRC administration would work? I personally have thought that she, as she said herself, simply wasn't good at being a candidate. I'm starting to wonder if all of this would extend to her presidency.

Because I'm not seeing it

“She said that it’s going to be coming out in the very near future that many of the catastrophes that have taken human lives in the State of New York have been the product of guns coming over the border from Vermont,” according to New York State Sen. Tim Kennedy. “That’s the first I heard it,” he remarked.

despite Mrs. Clinton's claims. You may look a upon that as yet another example of her simply misspeaking. Others, like myself, see it for the lie that it is.

VT is one of the top sources of guns used in NY crimes. Higher than NJ and Massachusets.

It's the second lowest number on that graphic you posted. More "wordplay"?

They are 14 out of 15 in that graphic and 14 out of 50 overall.

And Vermont is

but since they have consistently lied about Clinton, I am sure this one is no different. I was perusing the replies to find just your comment. So, he didn't say Clinton lied? No surprise. These people at uncut are pathetic and have tangled with them often. They can't be honest for the life of them.

Gov. Peter Shumlin of Vermont, an outspoken Clinton supporter and a super-delegate pledged to support her, didn’t hesitate to throw her under the bus for her callous mischaracterization of his state. “It is campaign season; therefore, things are sometimes said by all the candidates that sometimes aren’t entirely accurate,” he said. He went on to note that heroin used in Vermont is primarily brought over from other states, New York in particular.

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Fascinating.

I thought you were different ... You aren't ...

Gone ...

Cuz I don't like a source makes me a bad person.

He didn't just state they were from Vermont. He said Vermont and other states. States that have larger populations would likely import more guns. That wouldn't be surprising. But he isn't the first person who has pointed out that states that don't regulate their guns cause problems for the ones who do. That isn't a lie.

Vermont only accounted for less than 1% of the guns seized in New York, while Southern states accounted for the lion's share. Mentioning only one state by name implies that that state is a major player, even though it obviously is not the case. It's just a lame attempt to indirectly smear Bernie.

Not really.

And Bernie has represented his state for 25 years in Congress and won 86% of his state's voters but he says smears are part of politics so as a superdelegate he will ignore the will of the voters of his state and vote for Hillary anyway.

Those Southern states that voted overwhelmingly for Hillary certainly stepped up!

LMAO, indeed.

Liar and a hypocrite.

With that said the guns issues for Dems is so similar to the abortion issue for Rethugs. Issues the MSM will throw up to distract the masses.
In this campaign cycle there are bigger issues.
There just are. We are are struggling here for survival against the corporatists. They want TPP and to do away with our jobs. Our middle class is about gone. They want to intervene where we don't belong. They want to initiate war. They are for fracking and destruction of our environment. These need to be the issues.

I suppose she's hoping no one from PA. will hear this attack.