2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHow much of Bernie's support is coming from right wingers wanting an easier candidate to defeat?
Much of Bernie's support is coming from so-called Independents. How many of them are voting for Bernie because they think that he is the easier candidate to defeat in the general election? See Sen. McCaskill's strategy with Todd Aiken in the MO senate race of 2012.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)They have a hotly contested primary are not wasting their vote.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)It's obvious from the polls that Bernie is by far the more difficult candidate to beat in the General Election.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)This is the stupidest notion out there. People really don't like Hillary and they really do like Bernie.
salinsky
(1,065 posts)... why does Hillary have a couple million more votes than Bernie?
Inquiring minds want to know ...
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)And now we have the Panama Papers with the Clinton Foundation up to their assholes in it. Don't worry, Bernie will beat her.
salinsky
(1,065 posts)... if Hillary loses for some reason (spoiler alert; she won't), I'll happily vote for Bernie.
I'm Democrat like that.
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)After she lost in 2008 they rearranged the states so she would appear inevitable, but now it has begun to backfire.
lastone
(588 posts)The "New Third Way Southern Strategy" was designed to provide her a comfortable delegate lead as early as possible and the south is the only place where this is more assured than not. I believe it was designed to push voters into the she's inevitable camp and discourage any other candidate or supporters of an other than HRC candidate as early in the primary as possible. Similar but not as nefarious as the republican redistricting crap they are repeatedly shot down in court for, similar but different in effect at having states "called" early in the day (night) for a candidate based on the small sample sizes we've see in some states. When one hears the election has been called and is still waiting in lice to vote, perhaps they head home as they do not think their votes will even be counted. When the D candidate acts like a lite R we should all be horrified, the DNC and HRC camp have been using the same tactics in this primary.
grntuscarora
(1,249 posts)looking to her to be the Republican party unifier?
Probably not many, but it's as likely as your scenario.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)...are intended to get Trump's base out, so he will be the nominee - and destroy the GOP.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)Bernie does much better than Hillary against all of the potential Republican candidates for President.
riversedge
(70,299 posts)WDIM
(1,662 posts)Voting against Clinton motivates the Repug base like no other and Democratic base will be unenthusiastic and low turn out for Clinton.
awake
(3,226 posts)I am sure she is counting on all of her Republican friends on Wall Street to vote for her oh thats right NY is a closed Primary.
GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)How dare people like Bernie Sanders the candidate, it must be a big ruse to cheat democrats out of nominating the weathervane.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)Honesty?
Trustworthiness?
Likability?
Dislike?
All her negatives are high. That is the easiest one to beat. Bernie's record is stellar!
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)By the time he was finished with her, even Bill wouldn't vote for her.
Trump is a bareknuckles campaigner and all Hillary has is focus group doublespeak.
Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)to beat than Hillary, for Republicans.
Common sense tells you that as well.
earthside
(6,960 posts)I know a lot of right-wingers and Tea Partiers.
Some might believe Sen. Sanders would be easier to beat than Clinton, but never in a million years would they vote for a socialist ... even for tactical purposes.
Besides, I'm not hearing from my right-wing acquaintances that they think Sanders will be easier to beat than Clinton. They can go on for hours about how corrupt, deceitful and dishonest is Hillary -- they are aching for a chance to vote against her.
Clinton will be easier for the Repuglicans to defeat, anyway -- she is crooked, in my opinion, and highly scandal prone; her arrogance and smugness makes her extraordinarily dislikable. If Democrats want a much better chance at keeping the White House, they will abandon this 'HER' mirage and nominate Sen. Sanders.
Marr
(20,317 posts)It might make you feel better, but I don't think it's a factor.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)Your question assumes that Republican infiltrators are a factor. Unless there's some data that supports your claim, it's just a conspiracy theory.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Many are directly from the right wings playbook.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)LOL
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)She speaks to them. She speaks MONEY. And she would be easier to defeat in November. We all know that.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)PufPuf23
(8,836 posts)Support for Sanders is from the left wing / New Deal Democrats segment of the Democratic Party and from Independents that have left or at least favored the Democratic Party.
It is delusional to think otherwise.
Do you know in your personal life or in the public sphere a single right winger championing Sanders?
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)basselope
(2,565 posts)MariaThinks
(2,495 posts)some of the arguments in favor of Bernie and against Hillary are not progressive at all.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Hillary's campaign is in deep trouble.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Hillary was pandering to someone with her bullshit lies about Reagan being an AIDS hero and LGBT not doing a thing to help themselves. Who was she reaching out to with that crap? You defended that horrific and hugely ignorant rhetoric.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)The hawk on foreign policy and her money from WS..woohoo.
Such an inspiring candidate who has trustworthy ratings so low
one has to wonder why anyone is voting for her in the primary.
immoderate
(20,885 posts)of the Democratic Party. Anybody more liberal than Richard Nixon has no representation in our government. Now at least there's Bernie who at minimum is a New Dealer.
--imm
Faux pas
(14,690 posts)and lol and
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)This is almost as much a myth as individual "voter fraud."
Teamster Jeff
(1,598 posts)would like to see both candidates in the GE support them. Sure win.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)did you get that from Correct the Record, or just the TP fax?