2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumTed Weaver-Does anyone have what he just said on CNN yet..it was Excellent!
Don't find it yet. Anyone else?
Nanjeanne
(5,003 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I am willing to go a step further...the PDs switch, like 2008, supers will switch to Bernie. And yes it can happen. Though it is a tall order.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Unless one of them drops out and even then it's not a guarantee.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)That is why this is going to be a floor fight.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)neither side will have pledged delegates magic number at end of primarys.Super delegates will decide it at convention.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)That is a Sanders campaign fantasy they peddle to their gullible followers.
Journalists are supposed to be skeptical. If Clinton is ahead on pledged delegates, and has the endorsements of a strong majority of super delegates, hot air from the BernieBros isn't going to convince them to steal the election on behalf of Bernie, effectively disenfranchising the black voters whose votes made the difference for Clinton.
The idea is so stupid it is contemptible.
angrychair
(8,738 posts)is the mindset that you can win elections with this arrogant and shitty attitude.
I Am sick and tired of this "Berniebros" meme. The only thing it does is drive a bigger wedge between our groups.
You Clinton PUMAs, with your "we don't need you to win" attitude is going to lose you the election, again.
Even if Sanders doesn't win, he has moved a significant portion of the electorate his way and broken every fund raising and young people participation record on the books (17%, more than any election cycle before this one).
Given that, acknowledge the changes and move to the left as a good thing for our Party and find ways to help it make our Party better and stronger or be asshole, it's a free country, for now, so you don't have to listen to me.
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I was kind of surprised to hear my conclusion on CNN last night. I ran the story before he said that on CNN. As to trump not getting to the magic number...John King and I agree...I differed from tje friendliest scenario with him by two delegates.
Here I wrote this yesterday at RSD
http://reportingsandiego.com/2016/04/06/sanders-and-cruz-with-solid-wins-in-wisconsin/
I am taking into account current trends. But one major falter and she just might.
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Sit down, look at actual delegate counts and do math. I have run a few models at home. Why I am a tad more coy. I think my prediction of a floor fight will be clearer after NY and PA. My thinking is that if she does well, it is over...if he does well SDs will start to have second thoughts...the ever lovely psychology comes in. And that definitely places CA in play.
Did I mention I hate math? Been doing it the old fashioned way, paper and pencil.
But NY is that critical, and he is closing fast in polling