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Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:01 AM Apr 2016

If neither candidate earns the delegates needed to clinch this...

then clearly the most rational thing for the Democratic Party to do is to select the candidate most likely to beat the Republicans.

It has been abundantly and empirically proven that that is Bernie Sanders.

If the Democratic Party big wigs do not wish to follow that simple logic, I can only conclude that something else is at work. Something that has everything to do with washing each other's backs, protecting their fat asses and keeping their cushy positions.

Because that's what a party is really all about. Keeping out the riff raff that just doesn't want to go along to get along.

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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
3. Sorry, typo. I meant neither HAS a chance at this point to clinch through pledged delegates alone.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:08 AM
Apr 2016
 

Abouttime

(675 posts)
4. In a perfect world yes
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:08 AM
Apr 2016

But Hillary will be our nominee, super delegates and those in charge of our party have made it inevitable.
Trump or Cruz have zero chance of beating Hillary, she will be our next President.
I'm holding out hope for a Clinton/Warren ticket with Hillary only serving one term setting up Liz Warren to be our second female President.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
5. If you are saying polling has proven it... Remember polling has been wrong several times.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:10 AM
Apr 2016

This election is VERY different, it's going to be interesting to see what happens.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
10. There have also been a lot of polls which got primary states wrong.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:21 AM
Apr 2016

The general election is very different we don't honestly even know who we will be running against yet.

It's a cycle unlike any I've seen in my life.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
11. It certainly is a weird weird time.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:24 AM
Apr 2016

I think that a revolution is coming.

In many ways, I think Bernie had too many strikes against him.

But that is only more evidence of how BADLY the people want a major change.

Status quo will win this primary, I am pretty sure. But this primary will be remembered as the one where conventional wisdom was DESTROYED. And in the next primary, a younger, more attractive candidate will arrive. And he or she will knock it out of the park.

The path was cleared and we have Bernie to thank for it.

This will be the last hurrah of the conventional candidates for a while.

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
9. While that makes sense...
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:13 AM
Apr 2016

The Clintons have worked relentlessly to place their loyalists at all levels of the DNC. Bernie can't even be close, he has to blow her out for the loyalists to betray HRC. Winning? They'd rather lose and get on the gravy train that is the Clinton Global Slush Fund, err, Global Initiative. Fly around in chartered jets, shake down foreign governments and corporations, occasionally do some good deed to keep the IRS at bay WRT the tax-exempt status...

The way we get Bernie the nomination at the convention - if neither has the delegates - is to simply take it. Overwhelm them by sheer numbers and volume. Protest like our lives depend on it. Demand that the only candidate capable of beating the GOP - Bernie - be the nominee.

Then again, if she has the regular delegates (not just the super delegates), she has the delegates. I don't have to like it, and I Don't have to support her. Give her the chance to renounce her corporate/Wall Street benefactors and return all of that dirty money. That would be the only way I would vote for her. Otherwise, I know she's just going to side with those who seek to destroy me and others like me. Her choice. She still has time to change course, but I'm not holding my breath.

I'd rather Bernie just kick her ass in NY and CA and win this outright.

COME ON NEW YORKERS & CALIFORNIANS!!! YOU CAN SAVE AMERICA!!! FEEL THE BERN!!!

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
12. Win or lose...
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:04 AM
Apr 2016

...the Third Way keeps those corporate checks rolling in as long as they control the party machinery.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
17. Something is going to happen.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:51 AM
Apr 2016

Either the Third Way remains in control and progressives/liberals leave the party, or progressives/liberals take back control of the party and platform.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
15. The winner should be whoever has the most pledged delegates
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:07 AM
Apr 2016

Sanders should not be the nominee without the most pledged delegates. That would not be fair.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
16. Wrong if Hillary has more delegates, even if it's one more than Bernie then she should be the
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:09 AM
Apr 2016

nominee.

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