2016 Postmortem
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then clearly the most rational thing for the Democratic Party to do is to select the candidate most likely to beat the Republicans.
It has been abundantly and empirically proven that that is Bernie Sanders.
If the Democratic Party big wigs do not wish to follow that simple logic, I can only conclude that something else is at work. Something that has everything to do with washing each other's backs, protecting their fat asses and keeping their cushy positions.
Because that's what a party is really all about. Keeping out the riff raff that just doesn't want to go along to get along.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)unless one drops out.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)It just didn't work out that way because it is so close.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Abouttime
(675 posts)But Hillary will be our nominee, super delegates and those in charge of our party have made it inevitable.
Trump or Cruz have zero chance of beating Hillary, she will be our next President.
I'm holding out hope for a Clinton/Warren ticket with Hillary only serving one term setting up Liz Warren to be our second female President.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)This election is VERY different, it's going to be interesting to see what happens.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)The general election is very different we don't honestly even know who we will be running against yet.
It's a cycle unlike any I've seen in my life.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)I think that a revolution is coming.
In many ways, I think Bernie had too many strikes against him.
But that is only more evidence of how BADLY the people want a major change.
Status quo will win this primary, I am pretty sure. But this primary will be remembered as the one where conventional wisdom was DESTROYED. And in the next primary, a younger, more attractive candidate will arrive. And he or she will knock it out of the park.
The path was cleared and we have Bernie to thank for it.
This will be the last hurrah of the conventional candidates for a while.
OxQQme
(2,550 posts)by Over 1/3 with Over 2/5 of Pledged Delegates Still Up for Grabs
https://medium.com/@sharonhayes/no-bernie-sanders-is-not-done-378f4ca27ad7#.wu6jxkfne
Yurovsky
(2,064 posts)The Clintons have worked relentlessly to place their loyalists at all levels of the DNC. Bernie can't even be close, he has to blow her out for the loyalists to betray HRC. Winning? They'd rather lose and get on the gravy train that is the Clinton Global Slush Fund, err, Global Initiative. Fly around in chartered jets, shake down foreign governments and corporations, occasionally do some good deed to keep the IRS at bay WRT the tax-exempt status...
The way we get Bernie the nomination at the convention - if neither has the delegates - is to simply take it. Overwhelm them by sheer numbers and volume. Protest like our lives depend on it. Demand that the only candidate capable of beating the GOP - Bernie - be the nominee.
Then again, if she has the regular delegates (not just the super delegates), she has the delegates. I don't have to like it, and I Don't have to support her. Give her the chance to renounce her corporate/Wall Street benefactors and return all of that dirty money. That would be the only way I would vote for her. Otherwise, I know she's just going to side with those who seek to destroy me and others like me. Her choice. She still has time to change course, but I'm not holding my breath.
I'd rather Bernie just kick her ass in NY and CA and win this outright.
COME ON NEW YORKERS & CALIFORNIANS!!! YOU CAN SAVE AMERICA!!! FEEL THE BERN!!!
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)...the Third Way keeps those corporate checks rolling in as long as they control the party machinery.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Either the Third Way remains in control and progressives/liberals leave the party, or progressives/liberals take back control of the party and platform.
JPnoodleman
(454 posts)KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)Sanders should not be the nominee without the most pledged delegates. That would not be fair.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)nominee.