They are trying to make nice, but...

VATICAN CITY/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders was invited to speak at an April 15 Vatican event by the Vatican, a senior papal official said on Friday, denying a report that Sanders had invited himself.

"I deny that. It was not that way," Monsignor Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo told Reuters in a telephone interview while he was traveling in New York. Sorondo, a close aide to Pope Francis, is chancellor of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, which is hosting the event.

He said it was his idea to invite Sanders.

A Bloomberg report quoted Margaret Archer, president of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, as saying that Sanders had broken with protocol by failing to contact her office first.

"This is not true and she knows it. I invited him with her consensus," said Sorondo, who is senior to Archer.

An invitation to Sanders dated March 30, which was emailed to Reuters, was signed by Sorondo and also included Archer's name.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/senior-papal-official-untrue-sanders-invited-himself-vatican-173414032.html

Like when the pope was blindsided by some archbishop setting him up with Kim Davis. There is a real battle going on there. The right wingers are causing a lot of trouble. This statement is just more of that.

I had a friend who worked in the Vatican during the time of Pope John XXIII. He said it was a nightmare.

r--i--g--h--t

they lie as often as Bernie lies.

And they are in high gear today. The Clinton propaganda machine is earning its money. It's been just non-stop Bernie bashing. Mrs. Clinton abandoned issues weeks ago and has dug up all the smears, half lies and innuendos she used against Obama in 2008. She is a despicable person.

He was asked, point blank, "You're meeting with the Pope?"

He responded, "yep."

False, knowingly false, and so a bald faced lie.

4 Pinnochios false.

Extreme word parsing could be an olympic sport with Hillary followers.

another unforced error for the Bern

as a matter of fact he made it clear that he didn't know if he would meet with the Pope

Sure would explain the bullcrap that's floating around DU about this story:

Glenn Beck's headline reads:

I might get invited to a DC event. That doesn't mean I'm meeting the Presdent.

The Vatican and DC are cities. The pope and president are people who live in them.

In edit: maybe more of a misunderstanding than a lie. I can see how someone unfamiliar with Vatican workings could confuse the two.

in the video in the OP

Pretty clear to me . . .

that he didn't know if he would get to meet the Pope while there but that he hopes he would.

I also think you're misquoting slightly, but don't want to dig around to confirm.

slightly or otherwise

The video proof is in the OP.

but I understand you not wanting to "dig around" - might uncover some character flaws in stretching the truth a bit.

Definitely not a lie, unless you are talking about yourself saying it was your lie that was based on your misunderstanding?

Bernie was clear that he was invited to the conference at the Vatican, and stated explicitly that he wasn't sure if he would be meeting with the pope.

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-35999269

meeting with the Pope?

And make it clear he didn't know whether he would have the chance or not?

A few details were missing...

True in the technical sense, I suppose.

Meh, it's political move. He's a politician, etc..

Again, he conveniently left out the fact that his campaign took it upon themselves to request and arrange this meeting.

Looks like the pope may accommodate the request, he didn't seek Bernie out as the narrative would have us all believe.

Like I said, he's a politician. This is what they do.

Meh

This is a conference at the Vatican. Nowhere did he say he was cold-called out of the blue by the Pope (or anyone for that matter) to attend.

You're reading headlines and drawing wrong conclusions from them.

It's a conference, sometimes you get cold-called to speak at them, sometimes you submit your name and summary of topic and/or speech and if they like the content they invite you to speak.

There's nothing unusual or tricky or underhanded about that .. it's the way these things, CONFERENCES, work.

You're confusing this with the world of the 'for profit, secret behind closed door, financial speaking circuit' where all the 'invitations' and bribes are prearranged well ahead of time in secret back-rooms.

No, I'm "reading" this just exactly the way it is.

Awww...go ahead and run with it, anyway.

and I quote: "he conveniently left out ... " and then something about a "fact" about the 'sky being blue' or rather some obvious fact about conferences that has to make one question if you had any idea what a conference was and how they work, before making your claim.

"Oh, look Sanders said he just had a shit, but he conveniently left out that he wiped his ass with toilet paper ... We got him in a lie of omission!"

Don't take it so hard.

This isn't a meeting to discuss his canonization.

...

for Bernie they will cover for him. I guess they may even get Bernie an audience with the Pope to be sure.

GENTLEMEN! BEHOLD! MORE CORN!

I'm sure it will get up and run very soon.

Someones pants are on fire.

tell the one about when she went to bosnia

under fire
pants on fire
hillary clinton
is a liar

Ignore, and stop wasting my valuable time.

... Sanders better perform another walk back.

He should be well practiced.

1 - Bernie has consistently said he was invited to the conference --- he never claimed he was "invited meet to the Pope"

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-35999269

Q: You're meeting with the Pope??

Bernie: Yup.

What is the proper penalty for saying 'yep' to a question?

And once we deal with this outrage, you can join me in figuring out how to deal with Hillary's most recent 'multi-block crime spree' through the underbelly of New York.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511681945

he was a big fan of the pontiff."

Sanders in both his MSNBC interview and to BBC news (I haven't checked the others) made it clear he was invited by the Vatican.

In the Morning Joe, MSNBC interview no one mentioned the Pope. Sanders made it clear to BBC he wasn't sure whether he'd meet the Pope so you're trying to smear him as a liar is contemptible.

It's probably not even clear to Bernie whether or not the Pope was involved so his saying here Vatican/Pope is understandable. Clearly he is not sure whose idea it was to include him.




http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-35999269

"Yep"

when asked if he is 'Meeting with the Pope."

Point blank says it.

How is that not a lie?

informed that the Pope will be at the conference to greet all the participants. Bernie did not say that he has been granted a private interview. All he said is that he will meet the Pope.

but that he hoped he would.

when the evidence is staring you in the face.

Bernie is amateur hour.

I hope you never, ever realize what a big bag of fail this entire approach is for the Hillarians.

It's pretty comical and I sincerely hope that her pundits try too. It will keep it in the news longer.

to meetings and conferences at the Vatican? Do you think its a Starbucks or a Ramada Inn?

Hmmm. Someone's pants are on fire, and it ain't Bernie's.

And make it quick, Your Holiness--I've got a train to catch and no token!

He is listed as one of the "other participants"

He's really trying to pad his resume and make political hay while doing so.

Pretty sad.

And just buy souvenirs. The release was just made, you don't know what "participant" means in this context either.

Keep trying to diminish it. Won't change the fact that Hillary isn't invited. And it certainly doesn't cover her moral failings.

Sorry but Bernie ain't no saint no matter how you paint him up

She knows she will be President. There will be more opportunities

VATICAN CITY/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders was invited to speak at an April 15 Vatican event by the Vatican, a senior papal official said on Friday, denying a report that Sanders had invited himself.

"I deny that. It was not that way," Monsignor Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo told Reuters in a telephone interview while he was traveling in New York. Sorondo, a close aide to Pope Francis, is chancellor of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, which is hosting the event.

He said it was his idea to invite Sanders.

A Bloomberg report quoted Margaret Archer, president of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, as saying that Sanders had broken with protocol by failing to contact her office first.

"This is not true and she knows it. I invited him with her consensus," said Sorondo, who is senior to Archer.

An invitation to Sanders dated March 30, which was emailed to Reuters, was signed by Sorondo and also included Archer's name.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/senior-papal-official-untrue-sanders-invited-himself-vatican-173414032.html

But here is a quote directly from the Vatican.

A Vatican source also confirmed they would “not necessarily” be meeting privately. “It could happen, but very well could not,” the source told the Guardian on Friday.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/08/bernie-sanders-vatican-visit-pope-francis

Your own link says you are lying

Not that you care about the truth...

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/4/8/1512646/-Bloomberg-News-Vatican-officials-DENY-Archer-account-state-they-issued-invitation-to-Bernie

Try it.

But don't forget, we've got scads of documentation on the Queen of Lies. One campaign is associated with honesty. One is associated with lies and smears. And there's not shit you can do about that.

not merely attending a conference

What an honor to be invited to the Vatican. I look forward to a photo of Bernie with the Pope . . . even though you'll then put up a post claiming it's really a cardboard cutout and not the actual Pope.

Oh, that's right, Bernie lied about that.


But here is a quote directly from the Vatican.

I'd love a photo to turn up just for the angst it would cause in GD .

LOL

Claiming on camera that he's "meeting with the Pope" when the Pope says otherwise.

I haven't seems candidate have such a bad week in quite a long time//from outright slander to lying about being invited by the Pope

from camp Clinton. Good job soldier.

in which he is listed among "other participants" as an audience with the Pope isn't dishonest?


I mean seriously, check out where Bernie appears on the program?

Notice, he's not giving one of the focal papers; he's not even a respondent on any of the focal papers. Seems like he's there to be one voice among others from the floor.

But when asked on the View, "You're meeting with the Pope?" He responded "Yup.' And talked about how deeply moved he was by the invitation, cause you know he and the Pope are so simpatico.

Sounds pretty dishonest to me.


FRIDAY 15 APRIL 2016
MORNING
9:00 Word of Welcome
PASS President Professor Margaret Archer and Professor Daniel Finn
9:15 New Challenges and New Concerns since “Centesimus Annus” H.Em. Cardinal Oscar Andrés Rodríguez Maradiaga
10:00 Paper to be discussed: Changes in the World Economy Since 1981 Author: Professor Jeffrey Sachs
The fall of the Soviet Union was the major economic backdrop of Centesimus annus. Much has occurred economically since. What are the most salient changes in global economic life and how well does the economic insight of Centesimus annus illuminate those changes? What do recent economic crises and recent changes in economic thinking suggest for the near future of economic life?
10:30 Session #1: first respondent Professor Javier Iguíñiz
10:45 Discussion
11:00 Coffee Break
11:30 Session #2: second respondent Professor Stefano Zamagni
11:45 Discussion
12:00 General Discussion
13:15 Lunch
AFTERNOON
15:00 Paper to be discussed: Changes in the World Political Situation Since 1981 Author: President Rafael Correa
The fall of the Soviet Union and the democratization of Eastern Europe was the major political backdrop of Centesimus annus. What is the global political situation today and which elements require greater attention by both the international community and by Catholic social teaching?
15:30 Session #3: first respondent Professor Rocco Buttiglione
15:45 Discussion
16:00 Coffee Break
16:30 Session #4: second respondent Professor Hsin-Chi Kuan
16:45 Discussion
17:00 General Discussion
19:15 Dinner
Centesimus Annus 25 Years Later 7
SATURDAY 16 APRIL 2016
MORNING
9:00 Paper to be discussed: Changes in the World Cultural Situation Since 1981 Author: Professor José Casanova
The Church is an expert on the human person, and this insight imbued the analysis of Centesimus annus. Yet the past 25 years have seen remarkable developments in culture, with the impact of the internet, the marketization of life and culture, the importance of Islam around the world, new dynamics of secularization, etc. How ought we to think about the cultural situation today and what realities call for further reflection within Catholic social thought today?
9:30 Session #5: first respondent Professor Douglas Porpora
9:45 Discussion
10:00 Coffee Break
10:30 Session #6: second respondent Professor Margaret Archer
10:45 Discussion
11:00 General Discussion
12:15 Lunch
AFTERNOON
15:00 Paper to be discussed: How Catholic Social Teaching Engages the World Situation Author: Fr. Bryan Hehir
Like Rerum novarum a hundred years earlier, CA engaged the world situation of its day. This paper will attend to how those two encyclicals engaged the world, rather than what they had to say about the world, in order to draw out impli- cations for how CST today can most helpfully engage the contemporary situation. At the author’s option, one or more of the other anniversary encyclicals of Rerum novarum could be employed as well.
15:30 Session #7: first respondent Professor Pierpaolo Donati
15:45 Discussion
16:00 Coffee Break
16:30 Session #8: second respondent Professor Russell Hittinger
16:45 Discussion
EVENING
17:00 Paper to be discussed: The New Proposals Coming From Latin America Author: President Evo Morales
In the light of Pope Francis’ reading of the previous documents of the Magisterium, presented during the World Meeting of the Popular Movements of Santa Cruz de la Sierra in Bolivia, the author will present his proposal based on his expe- rience as a leader of the popular movements, rooted in the pre-Columbian cultural traditions and populations.
17:30 Session #9: first respondent Professor Daniel Finn
17:45 Discussion
18:00 Session #10: second respondent Professor Juan Llach

18:15 Discussion

18:30 General Discussion and Final Comments by Professor Martin Albrow
19:30 Dinner
8 Centesimus Annus 25 Years Later

List of Participants
Russell HITTINGER
University of Tulsa
Department of Philosophy and Religion Tulsa, OK (USA)
Javier IGUÍÑIZ
Chair of the Faculty of Economics Pontifical Catholic University of Perú Faculty of Economics
Lima (Perú)
Hsin-chi KUAN
The Chinese University of Hong Kong
Department of Government & Public Administration Shatin, New Territories
Hong Kong (PRC)
Juan J. LLACH
Director, GESE (Centro de Estudios de Gobierno, Empresa, Sociedad y Economía) IAE-Universidad Sustral
Buenos Aires (Argentina)
Evo MORALES
President of Bolivia
Michael NAUGHTON
Director, Center for Catholic Studies; Director, John A. Ryan Institute for Catholic Social Thought; Professor, Catholic Studies and Ethics and Business Law, University of St. Thomas, Minnesota (USA)
Douglas V. PORPORA
Professor of Sociology in the Department of culture and communication
Drexel University
Philadelphia (USA)
H.Em. Card. Óscar Andrés
RODRÍGUEZ MARADIAGA
Archbishop of Tegucigalpa (Honduras), Coordinator of Pope Francis’ Council of Cardinals
Jeffrey D. SACHS
Director, The Earth Institute Columbia University
New York, NY (USA)
H.E. Msgr. Marcelo SÁNCHEZ SORONDO
Chancellor
The Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences (Vatican City)
Martin ALBROW
Sociologist
University of Wales, em. London (UK)
Margaret ARCHER
Director, Centre for Social Ontology Department of Sociology University of Warwick
Coventry (UK)
Rocco BUTTIGLIONE
Presidente del Consiglio Nazionale UDC Rome (Italy)
José CASANOVA
Senior Fellow & Department of Sociology
Berkley Center for Religion, Peace & World Affairs Washington, DC (USA)
Rafael CORREA
President of Ecuador
Pierpaolo DONATI
Università di Bologna Dipartimento di Sociologia Bologna (Italy)
Daniel FINN
Professor of Theology and Clemens Professor of Economics and the Liberal Arts
Saint John's School of Theology and Seminary Collegeville MN (USA)
Fr. James HEFT
Alton M. Brooks Professor of Religion
Founder and President of the Institute for Advanced Catholic Studies at USC Dornsife
University of Southern California (USA)
Bryan HEHIR
Parker Gilbert Montgomery Professor of the Practice of Religion and Public Life; Hauser Institute for Nonprofit Organizations; John F. Kennedy School of Government, Cambridge, MA (USA)
Mary HIRSCHFELD
Assistant Professor, Economics & Theology Department of Humanities, St. Augustine Center Villanova University
Villanova, PA (USA)
Centesimus Annus 25 Years Later 9
Herbert SCHAMBECK
Institute for Constitutional Law and Political Sciences University of Linz
Juridicum
Linz-Auhof (Austria)
Stefano ZAMAGNI
Università di Bologna
Dipartimento di Scienze Economiche Bologna (Italy)
Andrew YUENGERT
Professor of Economics Pepperdine University Social Science Division Malibu, CA (USA)

Other Participants
Anthony ANNETT
Climate Change and Sustainable Development Advisor at the Earth Institute, Columbia University, New York
Norbert ARNTZ
President of the Board of the Theology and Politics Institute, Münster, Germany
Fernando De La IGLESIA VIGUIRISTI
Associate Professor, Pontifical Gregorian University, Vatican City
Rocco MIMMO
Ambrose Centre For Religious Liberty, Founder and Chairman, Sydney, Australia
Bernard SANDERS
United States Senator from Vermont, candidate for the Democratic nomination for President of the United States in the 2016 election
Mikkel WOLD
Associate professor Teologisk Pædagogisk Center. Pastor at Frederiks Church, Copenhagen - Teologisk Pædagogisk Center

not see it till now and just posted it.