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We may be about to witness the end of Mitt Romney's presidential campaign. (Original Post) Alexander Feb 2012 OP
Thom Hartman made some good points today......we need to be carefull what we wish for as..... yourout Feb 2012 #1
No! No! No! brooklynite Feb 2012 #3
On the other hand, a compromise candidate won't have all the apparent skeletons Art_from_Ark Feb 2012 #6
Too Late For A "Great White Hope" KharmaTrain Feb 2012 #7
Not just in August - at the end of August! It ends on August 30th. Drunken Irishman Feb 2012 #9
Yeah, the media can breathlessly talk about Christie Cosmocat Feb 2012 #19
A brokered convention is nothing but good news for us. beyurslf Feb 2012 #4
That is true libodem Feb 2012 #5
Actually isn't that a total improbability. vaberella Feb 2012 #13
Christie! Oh Noes!! nobody can beat him and Rubio!? come on. WI_DEM Feb 2012 #17
One more down, three to go! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2012 #2
maybe, but you would think folks would have learned not to make predictions about this campaign onenote Feb 2012 #8
Exactly tfrey1225 Feb 2012 #15
Not a collapse, just a catastrophic wound to his campaign's groin. denbot Feb 2012 #10
how many delegates does each of them have out of the 1,144? niyad Feb 2012 #11
I think Mittens might just squeak out a win. Obamacare Feb 2012 #12
He had polling leads all of the states he lost, if I remember correctly. n/t vaberella Feb 2012 #14
Creative destruction zipplewrath Feb 2012 #16
Romney will probably just barely win and so will continue to be a very weak 'front-runner' WI_DEM Feb 2012 #18
Which I think is our best case scenario. DCBob Feb 2012 #20

yourout

(7,532 posts)
1. Thom Hartman made some good points today......we need to be carefull what we wish for as.....
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 11:54 PM
Feb 2012

If they end up with a brokered Convention we may end up having to battle Christy or Rubio instead of Romney.

The best scenario is Romney getting the nomination after a bloody battle that leaves him easily beatable.

A Santorum win probably means a brokered Convention and a much tougher foe in the General.

brooklynite

(94,718 posts)
3. No! No! No!
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 12:13 AM
Feb 2012

A brokered convention is NOT going to result in a "White Knight" candidate, because the fact that the Nominating process has failed is going to scare away the very same White Knights who will aspire to run on their own in 2016 and won't want to take a fall for the GOP in 2012. A broker Convention will be an admission of failure and whomever ends up getting nominated will be damaged goods with little time to gain the support (and financial backing) of those favoring which ever candidates DIDN'T win.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
6. On the other hand, a compromise candidate won't have all the apparent skeletons
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 12:44 AM
Feb 2012

that the current crop of losers have been dragging out of each other's closets, and thus may be able to win support from a relieved base.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
7. Too Late For A "Great White Hope"
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 12:57 AM
Feb 2012

Remember, the rushpublican convention is in August...less than three months from election day. Whomever is the nominee will have to have a full-blown national campaign in place the day after...there's precious little time to build a team unless one's already in place (at the cost of one of the losing candidates). Not gonna happen...thus a brokered convention would be nothing more than the buying and selling of delegates until one of the current clowns out buys the other. Whomever wins leaves the convention with a bitterly divided party.

It's so telling that when you ask a "conservative" who their dream candidate is, they don't come up with a name other than some reincarnation of St. Raygun....

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
9. Not just in August - at the end of August! It ends on August 30th.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 01:26 AM
Feb 2012

That leaves exactly 67 days until the election. Not a lot of time to get things ready - to produce a ground game and a solid organization in the more important states.

Cosmocat

(14,570 posts)
19. Yeah, the media can breathlessly talk about Christie
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 10:54 AM
Feb 2012

Bush, the little pinhead in Minnesota all they want, but unless the economy implodes or there is some kind of major national security problem, no of these people are going to show up two months out and beat BO - an incumbent who people like.

beyurslf

(6,755 posts)
4. A brokered convention is nothing but good news for us.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 12:21 AM
Feb 2012

Any of the people we might not want to face from a brokered convention would also never want to run from one either. They will all wait til 2016

vaberella

(24,634 posts)
13. Actually isn't that a total improbability.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 07:13 AM
Feb 2012

There is a timeline as to when you have to put your name on the ballots in all state. Even if one of those guys wanted to run and Rubio has no experience to really run and Christie's gusto is very limited---it's unlikely they would ever come around just because of the ballot listings. Even Obama's name was under question for one state.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
17. Christie! Oh Noes!! nobody can beat him and Rubio!? come on.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 10:25 AM
Feb 2012

They think these guys are so strong, but they aren't. Jeb isn't either. A brokered convention is not a god send to the GOP it shows how pitifiul they are and the lack of strong candidates. Then you have the party turning to one of the people who didn't even run? How do you think many supporters of Romney, Santorum and even Gingrich will feel?

onenote

(42,749 posts)
8. maybe, but you would think folks would have learned not to make predictions about this campaign
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 01:03 AM
Feb 2012

I know I've stopped. Will a loss in Michigan signal the 'collapse' of Romney's campaign? Maybe. But maybe not. I doubt anyone knows for sure. Certainly there isn't anyone out there that I know of that has accurately predicted the ups and downs of the GOP primary process.

tfrey1225

(34 posts)
15. Exactly
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 08:18 AM
Feb 2012

A loss in Michigan won't change a thing. This nomination battle is going to the very bitter end and losing or winning Michigan doesn't change the outlook much for Romney.

denbot

(9,901 posts)
10. Not a collapse, just a catastrophic wound to his campaign's groin.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 01:44 AM
Feb 2012

If the republicans hadn't governed like such complete assholes I would (almost) feel sorry about R-Money's soon to be buckshot neutering. Even with an embassingly wounded candidate, the powers that be will keep R-Money alive to minimize the damage to the down ticket candidates.

 

Obamacare

(277 posts)
12. I think Mittens might just squeak out a win.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 02:40 AM
Feb 2012

Its been said they he had a huge lead in those who have already cast their ballots. I hope Dems come out and support Satantorum today.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
16. Creative destruction
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 09:33 AM
Feb 2012

Think of it as a disaster filled with opportunity. It would be a bit like bankruptcy. It will be destructive, but Romney may also see the opportunity to restructure. It's not like Santorum will have some insurmountable lead, and the Romney folks may just figure "it's a whole new race". He'll have some encouragement too from those moderate GOP forces who don't want to see a Santorum race in the general. They may not care by then if Romney wins, just that Santorum isn't the top of the ticket.

It will be the end of his "inevitable" approach to campaigning, or the "most electable" slogan. But it could merely start a new slogan of "I'm the sane one".

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
18. Romney will probably just barely win and so will continue to be a very weak 'front-runner'
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 10:27 AM
Feb 2012

And his margin (like in other states this time around) will be well below what it was in 2008.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
20. Which I think is our best case scenario.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 11:00 AM
Feb 2012

I think we want Romney to be the nominee but Santorum to do just well enough to keep the clown show going for awhile longer to force Mittens further right and to make even more dumb statements to give us lots of stuff for ads down the road.

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