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Romney's Steep Path to 270
Charlie Cook: "Not all of the states in this Toss-Up column are equal. Most private polls show Romney with low single-digit leads in North Carolina and Virginia. For the sake of argument, let's give Romney both states, adding 28 additional electoral votes to the 191 that Romney already led in, for a total of 219--51 short of a victory."
"At the same time, Obama has a lead in Nevada that is wider than any advantage that Romney has in North Carolina and Virginia, so let's add the Silver State's six electoral votes to the Obama 237, bringing his total to 243, 27 short of 270."
"That leaves six remaining states -- Colorado (9), Florida (29), Iowa (6), New Hampshire (4), Ohio (18), and Wisconsin (10) -- with a total of 76; Obama needs 27 of the 76 while Romney needs 51. But the challenge for Romney isn't just that he needs to win two-thirds of the "true" Toss-Up state electoral votes. It's that in five of the six (Colorado, Iowa, New Hampshire, Ohio, and Wisconsin) Obama is still leading in most polling, particularly the last two, while in Florida, it seems awfully close to dead even. If Obama carries Ohio and Wisconsin, where he is ahead in most polling, he gets the 270 with one electoral vote to spare, so Romney could sweep Colorado, Florida, Iowa, and New Hampshire and still come up short. No matter how you cut it, Ohio is the pivotal state, and it isn't just the history of having gone with every winner from 1964 on and with no Republican ever capturing the White House without it."
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/10/23/romneys_steep_path_to_270.html
dsc
(52,166 posts)In the last 20 polls Obama has lead in 18 with Romney leading in 2. In NC it is about 12 to 6 in Romney's favor. If we are counting NC in Romney's corner then WI is in ours. That leaves 17 EV which is either Ohio or Colorado, Iowa, and New Hampshire.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)Ryan in Cleveland tomorrow
and:
Another right-wing special interest groups is going on air against us in Ohio.
Theyre called the Club for Growth. And this week, theyre spending just over $373,000 on an attack ad against me in the Columbus media market.
Look, we only have 14 days left. Theres not much time left to beat back these attacks on my record. I need all of my grassroots supporters, especially supporters like you who have come through in the past, to help us fight back in the closing days of this campaign.
We need to respond with strength -- and we need to do it fast. Lets raise $37,000 TODAY to beat back this new $373,000 in attacks. Give $13 or more right now.
Who is this Club for Growth?
Ask Mike Huckabee. The former Governor of Arkansas, who ran for the GOP presidential nomination in 2008, once said this about the organization: I think theyre a despicable political hit organization that takes peoples money and anonymously attacks candidates, with no integrity...
Even a Tea Party Republican thinks these guys are despicable. Who am I to argue?
And now they're coming after us. With Ohioans already casting their votes, this attack could be the one that tips the scales. We need to fight back right now to make sure that doesnt happen.
Donate here:
http://secure.sherrodbrown.com/page/contribute/e121022?source_codes=ngpattr-e121022mainnn0
doc03
(35,378 posts)am wrong but I just don't believe he will.
All the polls from the last 6 months there have a problem with your belief system.
Connie_Corleone
(9,330 posts)Obama is leading by at least 5 points in Ohio in most polls. Romney has NEVER had a lead here.
doc03
(35,378 posts)Romney and 10 ads supporting Romney on TV and radio for every one supporting Obama.
I mean it gets depressing when you drive down the road and literally 2/3 of the lawns have
Stop the War on Coal/ Fire Obama signs on them you turn on the radio, TV or read a paper and that is all you see. I am telling you the anti-Obama vote is fired up like I have never seen before.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)I didn't see my first Obama yard sign until yesterday. Everything is Rmoney/Ryan. Every caller to RI talk radio hates Obama.
I guess that means Rmoney will win RI, right?
doc03
(35,378 posts)Connie_Corleone
(9,330 posts)I live in Hamilton County. Obama will win Ohio. Many people are fired up after all the crap Husted has been trying to do to stop early voting.
said last night that Obama is over performing in Toledo, Ohio with WHITE MEN, so....
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)All the evidence suggests he will carry Ohio like he did in 2008, but you just don't believe he will.
He's polling better there before this election than he did before the 2008 election.
But, hey, you just don't believe he will carry Ohio because....well....you just don't believe he will.
doc03
(35,378 posts)of Ohio the last 3 or 4 months so maybe it is not as bad elsewhere. But I have never seen the opposition so fired up before either. You add in all the shenanigans the Repugs are trying to pull it just gives you an uneasy feeling.
jillan
(39,451 posts)Maximumnegro
(1,134 posts)so if he's skeptical, then I feel even better. His analysis falls in line w/ previous statements by the campaign.
FBaggins
(26,760 posts)He's a life-long Democrat.
This "leans right" nonsense started a couple years ago when his predictions upset many here on DU...
... of course he turned out to be 100% correct.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)His problem is that Obama is ahead in the others.
LTR
(13,227 posts)If Romney loses Ohio, he's pretty much toast. If he loses Florida, he is toast.
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)Last edited Tue Oct 23, 2012, 01:27 PM - Edit history (1)
Obama's chances are hanging by a thread - at best.
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)VA is actually much closer then FL in terms of the averages of all of the polling.
But Romney does have the harder job. He has to get more of the electoral votes in the toss up states. Obama needs OH and WI and hold steady with NV.
But Iowa and NH might be trending toward Obama too. And I need to see more polling on CO and VA.
JohnnyBoots
(2,969 posts)not help matters for Mitt. 270 ain't gonna happen.