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WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 12:08 PM Oct 2012

Charlie Cook: Romney's Steep Path to 270

Romney's Steep Path to 270
Charlie Cook: "Not all of the states in this Toss-Up column are equal. Most private polls show Romney with low single-digit leads in North Carolina and Virginia. For the sake of argument, let's give Romney both states, adding 28 additional electoral votes to the 191 that Romney already led in, for a total of 219--51 short of a victory."

"At the same time, Obama has a lead in Nevada that is wider than any advantage that Romney has in North Carolina and Virginia, so let's add the Silver State's six electoral votes to the Obama 237, bringing his total to 243, 27 short of 270."

"That leaves six remaining states -- Colorado (9), Florida (29), Iowa (6), New Hampshire (4), Ohio (18), and Wisconsin (10) -- with a total of 76; Obama needs 27 of the 76 while Romney needs 51. But the challenge for Romney isn't just that he needs to win two-thirds of the "true" Toss-Up state electoral votes. It's that in five of the six (Colorado, Iowa, New Hampshire, Ohio, and Wisconsin) Obama is still leading in most polling, particularly the last two, while in Florida, it seems awfully close to dead even. If Obama carries Ohio and Wisconsin, where he is ahead in most polling, he gets the 270 with one electoral vote to spare, so Romney could sweep Colorado, Florida, Iowa, and New Hampshire and still come up short. No matter how you cut it, Ohio is the pivotal state, and it isn't just the history of having gone with every winner from 1964 on and with no Republican ever capturing the White House without it."

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/10/23/romneys_steep_path_to_270.html

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Charlie Cook: Romney's Steep Path to 270 (Original Post) WI_DEM Oct 2012 OP
Obama's lead in WI is also more durable than Romney's in NC dsc Oct 2012 #1
just because I have the URL in my clipboard OKNancy Oct 2012 #2
Pull out Iowa, Wisconsin, Ohio, and Nevada and the game is over. JRLeft Oct 2012 #3
Help Sherrod Brown, Help Obama in Ohio: amborin Oct 2012 #4
I just don't see Obama carrying Ohio, I hope I doc03 Oct 2012 #5
Uhhhh Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #8
That makes absolutely no sense. Connie_Corleone Oct 2012 #10
Do you live in Ohio? I do and I see 10 signs supporting doc03 Oct 2012 #13
I live in Rhode Island ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #19
Well that is kind of good to hear, I guess n/t doc03 Oct 2012 #20
Yes I live in Ohio. Connie_Corleone Oct 2012 #22
UpChuck Todd michello Oct 2012 #11
In other words Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #14
I do live in SE Ohio coal country and I haven't been outside of this area doc03 Oct 2012 #18
Charlie Cook leans right - so...... jillan Oct 2012 #6
Yep. And he has better inside access than the media Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #9
Lol... no he doesn't. FBaggins Oct 2012 #21
If Romney wins VA he wins FL with some margin. geek tragedy Oct 2012 #7
The winner could possibly be decided in the Eastern Time Zone LTR Oct 2012 #12
but, if you read/watch the mainstream media NewJeffCT Oct 2012 #15
Except I would switch around FL and VA. Jennicut Oct 2012 #16
Gary Johnson on the ballot in the majority of states does JohnnyBoots Oct 2012 #17

dsc

(52,166 posts)
1. Obama's lead in WI is also more durable than Romney's in NC
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 12:15 PM
Oct 2012

In the last 20 polls Obama has lead in 18 with Romney leading in 2. In NC it is about 12 to 6 in Romney's favor. If we are counting NC in Romney's corner then WI is in ours. That leaves 17 EV which is either Ohio or Colorado, Iowa, and New Hampshire.

amborin

(16,631 posts)
4. Help Sherrod Brown, Help Obama in Ohio:
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 12:18 PM
Oct 2012

Ryan in Cleveland tomorrow

and:

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They’re called the Club for Growth. And this week, they’re spending just over $373,000 on an attack ad against me in the Columbus media market.

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Even a Tea Party Republican thinks these guys are despicable. Who am I to argue?

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Connie_Corleone

(9,330 posts)
10. That makes absolutely no sense.
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 12:36 PM
Oct 2012

Obama is leading by at least 5 points in Ohio in most polls. Romney has NEVER had a lead here.

doc03

(35,378 posts)
13. Do you live in Ohio? I do and I see 10 signs supporting
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 12:46 PM
Oct 2012

Romney and 10 ads supporting Romney on TV and radio for every one supporting Obama.
I mean it gets depressing when you drive down the road and literally 2/3 of the lawns have
Stop the War on Coal/ Fire Obama signs on them you turn on the radio, TV or read a paper and that is all you see. I am telling you the anti-Obama vote is fired up like I have never seen before.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
19. I live in Rhode Island
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 01:02 PM
Oct 2012

I didn't see my first Obama yard sign until yesterday. Everything is Rmoney/Ryan. Every caller to RI talk radio hates Obama.

I guess that means Rmoney will win RI, right?

Connie_Corleone

(9,330 posts)
22. Yes I live in Ohio.
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 01:07 PM
Oct 2012

I live in Hamilton County. Obama will win Ohio. Many people are fired up after all the crap Husted has been trying to do to stop early voting.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
14. In other words
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 12:48 PM
Oct 2012

All the evidence suggests he will carry Ohio like he did in 2008, but you just don't believe he will.

He's polling better there before this election than he did before the 2008 election.

But, hey, you just don't believe he will carry Ohio because....well....you just don't believe he will.

doc03

(35,378 posts)
18. I do live in SE Ohio coal country and I haven't been outside of this area
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 01:01 PM
Oct 2012

of Ohio the last 3 or 4 months so maybe it is not as bad elsewhere. But I have never seen the opposition so fired up before either. You add in all the shenanigans the Repugs are trying to pull it just gives you an uneasy feeling.

Maximumnegro

(1,134 posts)
9. Yep. And he has better inside access than the media
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 12:35 PM
Oct 2012

so if he's skeptical, then I feel even better. His analysis falls in line w/ previous statements by the campaign.

FBaggins

(26,760 posts)
21. Lol... no he doesn't.
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 01:03 PM
Oct 2012

He's a life-long Democrat.

This "leans right" nonsense started a couple years ago when his predictions upset many here on DU...

... of course he turned out to be 100% correct.

LTR

(13,227 posts)
12. The winner could possibly be decided in the Eastern Time Zone
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 12:44 PM
Oct 2012

If Romney loses Ohio, he's pretty much toast. If he loses Florida, he is toast.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
15. but, if you read/watch the mainstream media
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 12:48 PM
Oct 2012

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Obama's chances are hanging by a thread - at best.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
16. Except I would switch around FL and VA.
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 12:52 PM
Oct 2012

VA is actually much closer then FL in terms of the averages of all of the polling.

But Romney does have the harder job. He has to get more of the electoral votes in the toss up states. Obama needs OH and WI and hold steady with NV.
But Iowa and NH might be trending toward Obama too. And I need to see more polling on CO and VA.

 

JohnnyBoots

(2,969 posts)
17. Gary Johnson on the ballot in the majority of states does
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 12:59 PM
Oct 2012

not help matters for Mitt. 270 ain't gonna happen.

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