Long before Sanders decided to run. State subsidies to private insurance disguised as medical "reform", education privatization, growth of the Surveillance State, favoring corporations over people in trade agreements... take your pick.

I think you posted on the wrong thread

That post is unquestionably hostile to Obama and admits he's under the True Believer bus, just not how he got there.

Yo-Yo style. Both clintons have separated from Obama, and hidden from him and then used him as a shield. Should think it would be confusing, but I suspect the President is clear on it all. I am glad he is my president, and I am confused as hell about his support of her.

in speaking Fees from Clinton Donors come After Jan. It is whole revolving door thing, Obama just made it to the top.

I agree though since I was injured in the throat in the military and my speaking voice now is horrid. But thanks for making a bit more sad about it.

People are allowed to criticize anyone and everyone - including our President. That's what this country is all about. But I seriously doubt if anyone is upset that the President said Hillary is qualified to be President. We all have a very good recollection of many of the things he has said - including those he said in 2008 about her.

To totally condemn any good Democrat who in anyway way supported Hillary and their strong tendency to praise to high heavens the very few that have supported Sanders. We can't help but notice that everything those people have ever done totally pales in significance to whether they support Sanders or not. Hence the origin of the phrase, "Under the bus he/she goes".

Actually we find the phenomenon very amusing.

We would do much better if everyone looked critically at their leaders instead of turning politics into a damn sportsball game. Your "under the bus" meme isn't cute - it implies that we should never question the merit of anyone's statements, actions, or positions merely because they're supposedly on "our side".

.... but the fact remains the regardless of peoples' accomplishments or their reputations, if they announced their support for Hillary, Sanders supporters immediately viewed them negatively. On the other hand, if those very same people had agreed to support Sanders, they would have been praised to the max.

If you don't see the hypocrisy in that, you're part of the problem.

If you don't see the hypocrisy in THAT, YOU'RE part of the problem. The problem is anyone who treats this like a sports race and popularity contest, including you, speaking of "holier-than-thou".

It has been so unusual for anyone prominent to endorse Sanders, I haven't been able to really gauge the reaction of Hillary supporters to such occasions with any accuracy.

As best I can tell they simply regard such people as "misguided" or as we in the South would say, Bless their little hearts".

You showed how out of touch you are. This campaign isn't about what the hell the "prominent" people think of Sanders. It's about what We with Sanders can do for our nations future. The "prominent" will come along when it is fashionable, as can be seen by Hillary's evolutions towards the Sanders platform. We also got to witness it when Hillary finally joined the fight for $15, it became fashionable but she wanted little to nothing to do with it in recent debates. Bernie and the proles are busy trying to win an election, you expected to be handed one, and now you are angry. That's the gist of things.

When you say "We" you are apparently talking about the small percentage of far left wingers and socialist in this country who are so out voted that "you" aren't are going to accomplish anything. Look to your political right - that where you will find the vast majority of American voters.

Sanders hasn't even been able to attract the support the majority of the most liberal of the two major political parties. What gives you the delusional idea that you and yours can convince the majority of American voters to implement even one of the programs he has put forward?

Deep in the recesses of your brain I'll bet you know that Sanders's candidacy is a one chance in a lifetime opportunity and that opportunity is in the process of slipping through your grasp. You had better hope that pragmatic progressives like Hillary Clinton can implement some of our less ambitious programs because otherwise you are going to be totally SOL.

Strive for mediocrity. The thing is Sanders has already accomplished what he sought to do. Imagine how bad of shape the democratic party would be in without him bringing new potential blood in for the democrats. think Hillary was going to inspire people? Clinton was forced to adopt many of sander's platform, as you know, because her brand of mediocrity just wasn't quite doing it for her and really still isn't considering her negatives. please refrain from calling Hillary a progressive when we all know she is to the right of the Rockefeller republicans I remember as a child. Call her what she is a candidate for and by the 1%. Enjoy. Please try not to have her advance any of her policies, the American worker can not take anymore of those or her lust for war.

...but have no idea how it works. You're supposed to get ON the bus, not under it.

You guys need to get some new material.

And I would object to the use of "good" as a qualifier.

... who cares what you object to.

I know exactly who I'm responding to.

"under the bus" so I don't think the saying will go away anytime soon.

Of course we could start saying the that good Democrat or the other was "pushed in front of the bus" or maybe "the moving train". That would be different and still totally descriptive.

were casting people 'neath the omnibus long before Bernie ever started running for president.

I remember Team O doing it to Paul Krugman when he made some very polite policy criticisms of Obama. One of them, in fact, put the whole thing down to simple jealousy, since Obama is so dreamy and Krugman such a geek, clearly the latter was just jealous since the former had, no doubt, gotten lots of nasty in college while Krugman himself surely did not.

How's that for some substantive political analysis.

... zealous Sanders supporters have perfected "throwing people under the bus" into an art form.

it's appropriate for Hillary to throw Obama under anyone's bus...

...throwing President Obama under the bus for the last seven years.

President Bill Clinton's side too? I think he needs some help too.

Hillary said it was silly, and Bernie said she would be better than any of the Republicans.

Everyone wants to talk about issues. Bill thinks BLM activists like drug dealers and Bernie is going to a Vatican conference about creating a moral economy. Oh, and Hillary wasn't invited and some people said mean things about Bernie's wife's looks.

Next...

Not quite enough energy to roll my eyes here. Please assume rolled eyes.

The TPP is a corporate giveaway, that will hurt working class americans.

Thanks Obama and Paul Ryan.

It's your posts that I find boring

makes you a better person and can allow you to see other views.

...then it just pisses people off.

tigers blow

so go back in your hole.

lol

maybe you would tell me about hillarys trip to bosnia

lol

got to love that goldwater girl

try it

Marx, Lenin, or Trotsky?

No? I'm sorry, I thought you were using Bernie's reading list.

and not very open minded

typical shillary bot -they are so fun

When sneers go bad.

that is why i left the south - very few wise people

we can do better than capitalism - and some people have pointed out the problem that are intrinsic to capitalism

do you know any?

Hillary had her own "Papual" intervention.

Hope Hillary supporters are going to be as critical about this "Vatican conference", as Bernie's.

Doesn't bother me very much though. I think there's equal chance New Yorkers will react negatively to this as there is they'll react positively.

This is essentially Washington telling NY how they should vote.

Middle fingers are not unheard of in NY.

You guys are funny. It's Hillary followers that distort records and that is ok with the lying and corruption from Hillary.