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Related: About this forumNext up in Arizona: An attempted land grab including the Grand Canyon
http://news.yahoo.com/arizona-ballot-measure-contests-ownership-grand-canyon-025337121.htmlA controversial ballot measure backed by Republicans in the state legislature is seeking sovereign control over millions of acres of federal land in the state, including the Grand Canyon.
Proposition 120 would amend the state's constitution to declare Arizona's sovereignty and jurisdiction over the "air, water, public lands, minerals, wildlife and other natural resources within the state's boundaries."
The measure is the latest salvo in the so-called "sagebrush revolt" by Republicans in the West aiming to take back control of major swaths of land owned by various federal agencies, much of it by the Interior Department's Bureau of Land Management.
State Senator Sylvia Allen, one of the Republican backers of the measure, argues that federal retention of the land hurts the economy of the Western states and leaves them struggling to fund public education, nurture their economies, and manage their forests and natural resources.
Proposition 120 would amend the state's constitution to declare Arizona's sovereignty and jurisdiction over the "air, water, public lands, minerals, wildlife and other natural resources within the state's boundaries."
The measure is the latest salvo in the so-called "sagebrush revolt" by Republicans in the West aiming to take back control of major swaths of land owned by various federal agencies, much of it by the Interior Department's Bureau of Land Management.
State Senator Sylvia Allen, one of the Republican backers of the measure, argues that federal retention of the land hurts the economy of the Western states and leaves them struggling to fund public education, nurture their economies, and manage their forests and natural resources.
Hmmm.... didn't South Carolina try something like this once?
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Next up in Arizona: An attempted land grab including the Grand Canyon (Original Post)
KamaAina
Oct 2012
OP
Nothing illegal about the Proposition. Trying to act on it would be a different story.
yellowcanine
Oct 2012
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nenagh
(1,925 posts)1. Is that legal?
air, mineral and water rights, land ownership, wildlife......OMG..
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)3. Probably not
then again, that's what we thought about the "show your papers" law.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)4. IF it wins,
Will be challenged and thrown out by the courts.
Its chief proponent insists its a realistic effort to force the federal government to surrender its title to close to 73 million acres of land in Arizona.
But others who support Proposition 120 concede it may be a legally ineffective measure, because the likelihood of necessary approval by Congress is virtually nil.
On paper, the idea behind Proposition 120 is simple. It would add a section to the Arizona Constitution declaring the sovereign and exclusive authority over the air, water, public lands, minerals, wildlife and other natural resources within its border.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/free/20121018prop-land-grab-could-toothless.html
yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)7. Nothing illegal about the Proposition. Trying to act on it would be a different story.
Which is probably the point. This is talking points by proposition.
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)2. The damned Prop is worded...
...to appeal to the teapers and morons of this state. Throw the word 'sovereignty' into anything here and the Star Spangled Banner starts playing and a hologram of John Wayne appears.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)5. These are the same people who want to break up the USA to get the mineral rights and oil,
to steal the 50% of the nation that is federal and public lands.
no_hypocrisy
(46,191 posts)6. Two words: federal supremacy
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)8. Have to have a breathing permit?