2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSanders Back in the Old Neighborhood to Make His Case
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Asked what she thought of him, Ms. Lazareva laughed with delight. Oh, I hate him! she said.
Ms. Lazareva, who hails from Moscow, recalled waiting in line for three hours each morning to get a jug of milk as a little girl living under communism. If you lived under socialists, youd hate them too, she said. They make everyone poor.
Although Mr. Sanders, as a self-described democratic socialist, has a vision for America that is distinct from the economic system in the former Soviet Union, the word socialist was enough to provoke anxiety in Ms. Lazareva.
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She was unmoved. Everyone will be hungry, everyone will be poor, she said. If it will be Sanders, we will have the same here. Everybody who comes from a communist country, Russians, Eastern Europeans, even Latinos from Cuba, feel this way. When you know what will happen, when you see it youre Republican.
Farida Lazareva, 57, who hails from Moscow, said she was not a Bernie Sanders supporter, even though she was excited that he once lived in her apartment building. If you lived under socialists, youd hate them too, she said. Credit Kirsten Luce for The New York Times
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Interesting reaction on the ground to Sanders, the self-described "Democratic Socialist".
femmedem
(8,204 posts)I understand that they're quoting someone from his old building, but there are ignorant people everywhere. It's the NYTime's choice to run a photograph of that particular wrong-headed resident and give her so many paragraphs of ink.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)They're either too stupid to know the difference because they slept through class or they know and choose to act like Republicans because it's just so fun to push bigoted stereotypes!
Never thought I would see red baiting here, but I was wrong, one group does it on a daily basis.
Sky Masterson
(5,240 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)myrna minx
(22,772 posts)That commie. Nice red baiting. Wow.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)become ever more apparent as Sanders is vetted more thoroughly, and his fundamental beliefs put under the magnifying glass.
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)People believe Obama is a communist Muslim. He's been vetted too.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)of refugees from authoritarian communist-cum-socialist regimes have every reason to be apprehensive about the "socialist" label.
Former Union of Soviet Socialist Republics-- that's the place she chose to leave.
Back in the USSR,
You don't know how lucky you are.
Back in the US, back in the US,
Back in the USSR
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)It's wrong and they're daft. Sanders hasn't hidden away from his core beliefs and embraces the political philosophy of Democratic Socialist. People know the difference between Sweden and Stalinist Russia.
It will be a problem for some, but again many people think Hillary Clinton is a lesbian who murdered Vince Foster for blowing the whistle on their cocane ring. It's absurd, but. People believe what they will, regardless.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)he launched his presidential bid?
For the major part of his political career, he proudly and gladly embraced the "socialist" denomination as such, without the "democratic" addendum, and occasionally expressed his admiration for "socialist" leaders and regimes.
But, for Ms. Lavareva and her fellows, those finer points will of course be lost, and only the "Socialist" label will stand out in their minds.
As for Obama being unfairly labelled with all manner of libelous qualifiers, it certainly hasn't helped advance the success of his presidency.
There are legitimate concerns that Sanders' self-acknowledged "socialist" tag would hamper any eventual mandate.
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)He's not the red scare boogeyman that people are making him out to be. Again, people know the difference between Norway and Stalinsit Russia.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)is NOT of Norway or Sweden (or even France). The USSR, Cuba, or certain other Latin American regimes, past or present, are most likely to spring to mind.
Your average man-in-the-streeet, that is, not your Poli Sci major or political junkie.