2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary's main campaign strategy is tone policing
Instead of debating the merits of what was said, the Clintons make every argument about HOW it was said.
Take Qualifiedgate as an example.
Bernie said, "Let me just say in response to Secretary Clinton, I dont believe that she is qualified if she is, through her super PAC, taking tens of millions of dollars in special interest funds. I dont think you are qualified if you have voted for the disastrous war in Iraq. I dont think you are qualified if you supported the Panama free trade agreement."
"Qualified" was a poor word for Bernie to use, but in the context of what he said, he was making an excellent point.
Perhaps a better way to put it should have been, "Let me just say in response to Secretary Clinton, she should be DISQUALIFIED if she is, through her super PAC, taking tens of millions of dollars in special interest funds."
But instead of looking at what was said about super PACs, the war in Iraq, and the Panama free trade agreement, the Clintons have made it about alleged sexist disrespect.
The argument becomes about HOW it was said, and not what was said.
This happened in 2008, with Likeableenoughgate. Obama said something in a dismissive tone! How terrible! Sexist disrespect!
Bernie Sanders pointed his finger at Hillary! Sexist disrespect!
Someone from Greenpeace asked Hillary a question! Sexist disrespect!
A black girl asked Hillary a question! Sexist disrespect!
I can't think of a single other candidate for office EVER whose main campaign strategy was tone policing.
When you're in the Oval Office, you can't whine about how someone else said something, you have to deal with the issues like an adult.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)seattleite
(79 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)Lousy conductor once he went deaf.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)nichomachus
(12,754 posts)All Hillary offers is discord.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)If Hillary were a man, her feckless campaign would have been over last December. Ninety percent of her supporters are doing it only because they want to see a woman in the White House. So they overlook her corruption, her lies, and her lack of accomplishments. Not only do they overlook them, they make excuses for them.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)Bernie Sanders is Mr. Bad Man don't you know.
Don't compare the two on the issues or their previous records!!!!!!
kristopher
(29,798 posts)There is no way to justify the Clinton worldview when it's viewed from a set of liberal values and ethics.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)There is no way to justify the Clinton worldview when it's viewed from a set of values and ethics.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)Even the most twisted sociopath or psychopath (not a reference to the Clintons) has a set of values and ethics. It's fundamental to how our minds work.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)Instead of discussing the merits of what was said, let's freak out about the word "whores."
Would the term "democratic sex workers" be better?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)How smart does that make them?
bigtree
(86,005 posts)XemaSab
(60,212 posts)Bonobo
(29,257 posts)XemaSab
(60,212 posts)Bonobo
(29,257 posts)It is particularly ironic to get the "tone" argument from women who usually deride it.
1. "Qualified"
2. "Yes or No"
3. Hillary's voice ("strident", "angry", "screeching", "emotional" -all words we're not allowed to use.)
4. "Dollar bill" protest
That's just off the top of my head... how MANY more could we think of?
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)It's pretty fucking transparent, but they don't have much choice I guess.
Ino
(3,366 posts)to hear the constant whining should she actually be elected. Can you imagine everyone on the whole PLANET being scrutinized for the slightest whiff of something to be indignant about? Putin opened a door for her? Sexist! He didn't open the door for her? Rude! Cameron laughed at her comment... he wouldn't have laughed if a man had said it! And so on and etc.
On second thought, it would be tiresome.
Sky Masterson
(5,240 posts)Now you can't ask her a question or protest anything about her without her sycophants screaming sexism.
Corporate whore means Hillary must be a hooker.
Throwing money on the car before a fundraiser is suggesting she is a Stripper.
It is mind boggling.
But they in the fashion of Fox news viewers embrace a happy lie over an honest unhappy truth.
Hell, they can't even see that Most of America(Who can't vote in our primaries in most cases) hates her.
And it has nothing to do with the way she pees.