No links yet that I can find.

Pretty surprised.

Seriously?

You win 7/8 and will win this one, and you still choose to come shit on a thread?

No need for you to be rude about it.

So yes that was WAY to broad of a brush.

and single out a single Bernie supporter for doing nothing more than many Hillary followers do all the time.

So sticking with the brush stroke analogy that's a bit too wide.

Otherwise, you should correct yourself...

Come into a thread attack, and then demand an apology because you got called on it.

I'm good.

Enjoy the WY win.

I certainly don't think any Dem supports that, merely pointing out how conservative that area is.

As I mentioned my friends daughter going to college there. My friend's daughter is gay and she fights discrimination there on a daily basis. A lot of concerned folks often express concern to her that she's going to hell.

It seems more conservative pockets go for Hillary. I don't think there is a Dem in the world that would support any discrimination against gay people, much less violence.

I was in an interracial gay male relationship and my boyfriend was called a (n-word) and we were both called (faggot) just walking down Pearl St. in Burlington VT in 2006.

That was an incredibly odd post.

Or Oklahoma, Nebraska, Alaska, Kansas, Idaho and Utah? I mean it would be accurate to point out that Idaho is home to the aryan nation and Utah has a substantial number of Mormons who had to be dragged kicking and screaming to not allow polygamy and to let black people into their church. But those would be meaningless facts as they don't relate to the people who are voting in the Democratic primary. Likewise the fact that my landlords are deeply conservative pro-lifers doesn't mean they reflect the population at large here in the suburbs of Boston.

We let Democrats in places like Oklahoma, Mississippi and Wyoming vote because even in the deep red states there are Democrats.

But also the county covering Boston Mass, went for Clinton by over 15%. The county that includes Cambridge, went for Clinton by nearly 5%. Not exactly bastions of conservatism. Both Clinton and Sanders have won in states and pockets that have more and less conservative voters.

I wasn't sure if most of her supporters knew what that meant.

of Matthew Shepard.

And I hope I've clarified it.

Laramie is ultra conservative and backwards - Dems living in conservative pockets seem to support Hillary.

Damn those conservative strongholds, where I have to pay a .10 tax on my shopping bags, plastic bags are banned, and CHA promotes youth employment.

Except it's baseless.

After blaming black people in the south for the confederacy.

I actually had forgotten about this caucus. LOL!!

Sanders winning overall so far.

http://www.crowdsourcingdemocracy.org/results.html

Thanks.

And the most populous at that.

I didn't see that coming.

Good for them. The optics of it all tho..

I really don't know.

Live people show up to vote for bernie, paper voters show up with such a huge opposite result.

This she must cheat to win thing is just straight bullshit.

Young people googling the rules, seeing how they are written to be able to do this when the establishment is losing. Deciding to join up to be the next generation that gets to write the rules.

More fuel for the revolution

can participate in a democracy.

This has been another episode of: vote suppression: good (when it helps Bernie)

I am curious to see the demographics.

voters who don't snapchat and take selfies count too

The hillary supporters obviously have been hard at work in that one county.

Both parties do it. Sometimes legally, sometimes not.

I know you won't change your mind, but maybe someone reading this exchange might.

Which is bull.

I get that you guys only think she can win conservative states.

Also bull.

And I get that you think you are the end all be all on the topic, but you aren't.

The fact that you have to throw mud even when you win is ridiculous.

She's gonna have to use every rule in the book to still get the nomination. Like the rules they changed so her strongest states would vote first.

I'll stop and let you have your celebration now

Is that really a bad thing?

C'mon.

Be real.

Using that rule to pad the vote would be a bad thing. I'm waiting for the details of who these voters were.

Just going to post this here from another thread:


https://www.twitter.com/RiversDecas

They matter.

She won one county, that's it. I'm shocked to see the win, and plesantly suprised.

It's the most conservative county in Wyoming. Dems will likely be more conservative - seems to be a pattern that conservative Dems vote for Hillary. She's far right fiscally and on War.

This whole she only wins in RW states thing is baseless.

it is a college county.

100% of the mail in/surrogate ballots went to Hillary. Even the most corrupt regimes in 3rd world nations usually go with 98% of the votes...

I like them.

... if they can't make it because of disability, health issues, children or other dependent family members who need to be taken care of, or having to work three jobs?

This, in fact, explains Bernie's wins in caucus states. I've long thought that it was the young people, who don't have health issues or multiple jobs, or family members to take care of, who were leading to the big Bernie wins. But of course, disenfranchisement is just fine with most of the folks here, as long as it helps Bernie.

... but, I just find it odd that the surrogates had an overly large amount of Hillary voters when the majority of those that live in the community that showed up voted for Bernie.

absentee voters who would either have to work or be unable to caucus for physical reasons. Hillary has consistently done well with absentees, all election.

Exactly, she always does well with unverified absentee votes...

Nobody cheated.

Which she surprisingly won.

Trust me I'm a Hillary supporter it hasn't been fun, maybe let us enjoy the county win?

from reddit


Precincts that so far reported: 7/23

Albany: 25 - 8 county delegates
Campbell: 12 - 6 county delegates
Carbon: 3 - 4 county delegates
Freemont: 10 -10 county delegates
Johnson: 1 -1 county delegates
Laramie: 25 - 26 county delegates
Park: 8 - 5 county delegates
Sweetwater 12 - 10 county delegates
Total after 7/23 precincts:
96 - 70 county delegates
57.8 % - 42.2 %

Thanks.

Totally suprised.

If so, I can't in all honesty call it foul play.

However, if this was something only approved furtively and then made privately available to Clinton supporters about which Sanders' supporters weren't informed, well, then, that's probably illegal.

Could someone clear this up?

As much as I don't care for the Clinton's and DWS' tactics, I really don't want to believe they'd stoop this low and would prefer to think that the Sanders' campaign just got out-strategized here.

It's readily available in Wyoming.

Anyone who can't attend the (DATE) caucuses because of work schedule, illness, religious observance, military service, or disability can still vote by submitting a surrogate affidavit form

However, I hope it can't be gamed.

I really don't get bent out of shape if my candidate doesn't win if I believe the voting was fair. I get frustrated with the voters, but that's a different issue and ultimately the responsibility of our campaign to help better reach them.

I guess the question is how can the affidavits be verified (sort of like excuses for jury duty) and will the caucuses be re-run if there were discrepancies?

Seems like this option would favor Bernie if there were a lot of Orthodox Jews in Wyoming.

...with no evidence whatsoever?

FWIW, surrogate ballots were also allowed in the Washington State Caucus.

Usually elderly, disabled, and poorer voters who have to work.

And after her other caucus performances, I would be surprised if they weren't working to improve their numbers in the final two.

I thought Sanders was supposed to win WY handily?

But this was surprising to see.

Congrats on the WY win.

glad she had a good showing here!