2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumClinton: $350K per couple elite event vs Sanders: Speech on inequality
I'm amazed by the response by not only media but supposed democrats on this issue. It's like we live in alternative world where Sanders gets critized for giving a public speech on global equailty and social justice but no word on Clinton leaving the campaign trail to attend private fundraiser where couples are paying $350K to share a table with her.
Mind boggling they concern troll Sanders "leaving campaign trail" but aren't bothered by Clinton spending the bulk of her time fundraising with the global elite. In their world they can defend fundraisers but can't stand someone attending a conference on "social, economic and environmental issues"
FYI Hillary event is in SF on the 15th. Flight time from NYC to SF is 6hours. Flight time from NYC to Rome is 8hours. They both will essentially lose 1 day of campaigning. Sanders isn't selling his soul to highest bidder, but instead giving social, economic, and environment issues higher profile.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
GoldenSF
(27 posts)I thought the campaign limit was $2700 per person. How does she get away with charging $350k ($175k per person)?
daleanime
(17,796 posts)money is like water, it seeks the low ground.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Where they aren't really fund raising for Hillary but for the DNC (wink wink) And then the DNC will fund Hillary.
kcjohn1
(751 posts)Basically it either goes to her SuperPac or "Hillary Victory Fund".
The way they get around the limits is for them to contribute $2,700 to her, and the rest to the DNC, and democrat state parties. These parties than reroute the funds to the Hillary Victory Fund which allows her to control how the money is used. The whole she is raising money for others is a big scam, and MSM hacks like Maddow instead of reporting on it, actually propagandize for her by saying she is actually raising money for others.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)Democratic Parties. That will answer your questions.
think
(11,641 posts)By Matea Gold and Tom Hamburger February 20 2016
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A record 32 state parties signed on to the fund, allowing the committee to solicit donations 130 times greater than what a supporter can give to Clintons campaign for the primary.
But the states have yet to see a financial windfall. Meanwhile, Clintons campaign has been a major beneficiary, getting an infusion of low-dollar contributions through the committee at a time when rival Bernie Sanderss army of small donors is helping him close in on her financially. The fund is run by Clinton campaign staff, and its treasurer is Clintons chief operating officer.
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The early, expansive use of a jumbo-size joint fundraising committee shows how the Clinton campaign has worked to maximize donations from wealthy supporters, seizing on rules loosened by the Supreme Court.
Many states were wary of joining the effort, worried that such a partnership would be perceived as an endorsement of Clinton and might interfere with their efforts to raise money from home state donors. But campaign officials including Marlon Marshall, Clintons director of state campaigns emphasized that this was a way to strengthen the party at its roots, a message Clinton echoed in the speech she delivered at the Minneapolis meeting to DNC members.
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So far, the state parties have served only as a pass-through for their share of the funds. Campaign finance records show that nearly $2 million in donations to the fund initially routed last year to individual state party accounts was immediately transferred to the DNC, which is laboring to pay off millions of dollars in debt.
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Ive never seen anything like this, said Lawrence Noble, a former general counsel of the Federal Election Commission (FEC) who is now with the nonpartisan Campaign Legal Center. Joint victory funds are not intended to be separate operating committees that just support a single candidate. But they appear to be turning the traditional notion of a joint committee into a Hillary fundraising committee....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/democratic-party-fundraising-effort-helps-clinton-find-new-donors-too/2016/02/19/b8535cea-d68f-11e5-b195-2e29a4e13425_story.html
jwirr
(39,215 posts)deal are for one purpose. To fund Hillary Clinton's campaign. So much for being neutral. I have no intention to donate to any of the organizations linked to this deal.
I am hoping that it will be brought up at the state conventions and ended immediately.
We have a district convention coming up next month I hope to be able to discuss is there.
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)whole picture. IF the wonder why we think of staying home in November - I cannot think of a better reason.
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)The Family Foundations are money laundering enterprises.
The Secretary of State used the office to make deals for Fossil Fuel and Arms interests, and others.
Taxpayer national resources were used to grease the skids, and then the Secretary leaves to pursue the presidency.
Add to this picture Super PACs and you have the perfect wholesale end of democracy, sold to the highest bidders and all hidden from view by a complicit MSM and DNC.
And we're supposed to get over it.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)get worse.
PatrickforO
(14,586 posts)I appreciate this contrast.
Avalon Sparks
(2,566 posts)Its important not to lose sight of the one truth shes been telling, and will continue to tell, the voters: things will not get better. Ever.
The American ruling class has been trying to figure out for years, if not decades, how to manage decline, how to get Americans to get used to diminished expectations, how to adapt to the notion that life for the next generation will be worse than for the previous generation, and now, how to accept low to zero growth rates as the new economic normal. Clintons campaign message isnt just for Bernie voters; its for everyone.
When the leading candidate of the more left of the two parties is saying that and getting the majority of its voters to embrace that message the work of the American ruling class is done.
2cannan
(344 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)unlike you we are interested in trying to stop it one more time.
And Bernie is not promising anything will just magically happen. Any change will take time and will demand all of us take part in it over the long haul.
And even if it is impossible I would much rather go down with Bernie than with Hillary who got hers and does not care the least about the rest of us.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)He's not getting paid any "speaker's fee". He is just donating his time to try to give the voiceless a voice. While Hillary is trying to give the powerful a stronger voice.
Now, which one is the true Christian? The one doing what Christ said to do, or the other worshiping mammon*.
(*Mammon / ˈ m æ m ən / in the New Testament of the Bible means money or material wealth and is associated with the greedy pursuit of gain.)
scscholar
(2,902 posts)so that should count for something.
Avalon Sparks
(2,566 posts)Broward
(1,976 posts)It's a shame that the Party is now infested with right-wingers.
Avalon Sparks
(2,566 posts)Turd Wave