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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 07:57 AM Apr 2016

Can Bernie Sanders Upset Hillary Clinton in New York?

The New Yorker

BY John Cassidy
4/10/2016

On the face of it, Hillary Clinton shouldn’t have much trouble winning the New York Democratic primary on April 19th. In the 2008 version of this contest, when she was running as a two-term, home-state U.S. senator, she got more than fifty-seven per cent of the vote and defeated Barack Obama by about seventeen percentage points. This time around, Clinton again has a big lead in the polls. A Fox News survey that was released on Sunday showed her getting fifty-three per cent of the vote, and Sanders getting just thirty-seven per cent.

Clinton has Governor Andrew Cuomo campaigning for her, as well as Mayor Bill de Blasio and virtually ever other Democratic leader in New York. She also has the backing of some of the biggest labor unions in the state, including the service-workers’ union and the teachers’ unions. And it will be a surprise if any of New York’s major newspapers don’t endorse her.

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Ten days ago, Sanders held an outdoor rally at a park in the hardscrabble Mott Haven section of the South Bronx. About eighteen thousand people showed up. The crowd was so large that it couldn’t entirely fit into the allotted space. Now Sanders is campaigning full-time in New York, seeking to eat into Clinton’s lead, and drawing on a small army of volunteers.

Normally when you run a campaign, you have a lot of people working for you—you have to drag them places, and you have to pay people to do things,” Bill Lipton, the New York director of the progressive Working Families Party, which is supporting Sanders, told me. “This is a different type of campaign. There is a movement out there for Bernie Sanders. He has the type of energy we’ve rarely seen in New York politics, where thousands of people come out for a rally in response to an e-mail. Many of them leave with sheets of paper telling them how to get involved, and the next day they are knocking on doors.”

The mobilization isn’t restricted to New York City, Lipton said. He cited support for Sanders among environmental activists in the Hudson Valley, and said that an organizational meeting in Buffalo—where Sanders is scheduled to speak on Monday—that was called at short notice still attracted hundreds of volunteers. State officials have reported an unprecedented surge in last-minute registrations by new voters, which may also owe to the Sanders effect. “I think turnout will be high,” Kenneth Sherrill, an emeritus professor of political science at the City College of New York, whose memories of state politics go back to the nineteen-sixties, told me. “A lot of people who haven’t voted in primaries before are going to be voting, and that introduces a random factor.”....

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There are still nine days until the vote. Given Clinton’s local ties, her strength among women and minorities, and the level of institutional support behind her, the odds heavily favor her winning. (According to PredictIt, an online prediction site, the probability of Clinton finishing ahead of Sanders is eighty-nine per cent.) But Sanders’s supporters believe that they have momentum on their side. “Who would you want to be: the establishment candidate or the candidate of youth and change?” Lipton said. “Anything can happen here.”


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http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/can-bernie-sanders-upset-hillary-clinton-in-new-york


GO Bernie!!
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Vinca

(50,278 posts)
2. It doesn't matter. The superdelegates are choosing the nominee.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:00 AM
Apr 2016

The people who stand in line for hours to vote might as well be paid extras on a movie set. Wyoming - Bernie wins by 12 points, ends up with 4 fewer delegates than Hillary.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
4. Third Party coming soon, that's my guess. This is rigged, there will be fall out.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:04 AM
Apr 2016

Something like this will happen, I hope...

How the Peoples Party Prevailed in 2020
by Robert Reich
MONDAY, MARCH 21, 2016

http://robertreich.org/post/141437490885

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
9. I think we need to get rid of the superdelegates period.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:14 AM
Apr 2016

I would rather have my preferred candidate win or lose based on the votes cast by average voters, not a few hundred elites.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
3. If he can beat her there, he'll beat her anywhere! It's up to you New york, New York!
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:03 AM
Apr 2016

Send that carpet bagging candidate back to Arkansas, or Illinois, or some posh, One Percent estate in the Hamptons or Martha's Vinyard. I jest about her ever retiring/returning to Arkansas, or suburban Chicagoland, of course. They are not One Percent Enclaves.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
8. It's a closed primary as opposed to an open caucus.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:13 AM
Apr 2016

That means that college kids can't flood the zone in a larger primary and only registered Democrats can participate. That's game over for Sanders.

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