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GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:30 AM Apr 2016

Bernie Sanders Will Become Democratic Nominee Even If Clinton Leads in Delegates

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/sanders-become-democratic-nominee-even-if-clinton-leads-in-delegates_b_9657952.html

During my latest appearance on CNN International, I addressed the fact that Clinton’s FBI investigation could lead to indictment. In another appearance on CNN International, I explained that anyone fearing Trump must vote for Bernie Sanders, primarily because he defeats Trump by a wider margin than Clinton. These issues, in addition to Bernie’s popularity among younger voters and seventh straight victory, highlight why superdelegates and Democratic Party bosses will eventually side with Sanders over Clinton.
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Bernie Sanders Will Become Democratic Nominee Even If Clinton Leads in Delegates (Original Post) GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 OP
The author of the article is much more reliable than BNR or The Daily Beast. revbones Apr 2016 #1
List of times HA Goodman has been correct about ANYTHING: Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2016 #6
Similar to BNR revbones Apr 2016 #10
I don't read BNR or Daily Beast. Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2016 #14
Did I specifically say you did? Nope. revbones Apr 2016 #39
Goodman is not legit at all. Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2016 #43
Waaay more so than BNR or The Daily Beast. Incredibly so. nt revbones Apr 2016 #45
Nope, sorry Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2016 #47
Nope sorry. revbones Apr 2016 #48
Did BNR or Daily Beast advocate for Rand Paul? Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2016 #73
Is HuffPo owned by a candidate's super-PAC? revbones Apr 2016 #74
HuffPo =/= HA Goodman. Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2016 #75
BNR is owned by one of her super-PACs. revbones Apr 2016 #77
Well, good for me. Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2016 #79
Ha! Now we really know what side if the fence you are sitting on. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #50
What side would that be? Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2016 #69
You're smart-ish. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #70
So... You've got nothing, then. Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2016 #72
Hoping for a miracle because you can't win on the merits. Hey, maybe that's the real reason that Trust Buster Apr 2016 #2
Truth is the merit. bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #4
No, the final vote count is the merit and Sanders is about two million short. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #8
I like how that number doesn't include several states... revbones Apr 2016 #11
Not to worry, by April 26, everything will become much clearer to you......LOL Trust Buster Apr 2016 #15
Sure. But you can't defend the number you're citing now. What does that make you? nt revbones Apr 2016 #32
A winner ? Trust Buster Apr 2016 #34
Wow. Your comments here such as that one don't say a lot for your character. revbones Apr 2016 #38
Oh lighten up a little bit. All will be fine. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #40
Again, if you feel those comments are reflective of your character, you should be proud of them. revbones Apr 2016 #41
Wow, you need to calm down. The voters will decide in the end. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #42
Are you not proud of your comments? Do they not reflect who you are as a person? revbones Apr 2016 #44
This thread is about an OP claiming that Sanders will be the nominee even if he doesn't win Trust Buster Apr 2016 #46
Makes sense - Sanders will be praying at the Vatican, Hillary worshiping at $353,000 a plate dinners jmg257 Apr 2016 #12
The Republicans plan to spend $2 billion. I hope they could be $1 million/plate dinners. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #16
Of course: #ImWith$$$. $1 Mil a plate, millions and millions from lobbyists to campaigns, jmg257 Apr 2016 #20
Those are the rules the Republicans are allowed to operate under. We need to do the same. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #22
I understand. Would be nice to change them, wouldn't it? nt jmg257 Apr 2016 #23
We need to win this election, reshape the SC in order to reverse CU before we get religion about Trust Buster Apr 2016 #25
Agree. We also need candidates who don't represent the status quo. Cheers! nt jmg257 Apr 2016 #30
So from your comments, I assume... tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #55
We were talking about campaign contributions. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #58
Excellent point - I hope the Sanders campaign Merryland Apr 2016 #17
hurry BSers...Bernie needs more donations Sheepshank Apr 2016 #53
Thanks to your snark, you just inspired me... tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #57
WOO HOO Sheepshank Apr 2016 #61
No worries, what's a couple bucks for a good cause! Maybe Bill & Hill will adopt us all and give jmg257 Apr 2016 #60
maybe.. enjoy your purchases... Sheepshank Apr 2016 #62
Lol - Gotta have SOME fun! Otherwise its just boring $$$politics as usual! nt jmg257 Apr 2016 #64
Winning by virtue of "superdelegates" is not winning on "the merits" of your campaign. NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #18
Except that she's also winning in pledged delegates and votes and will widen that lead between Trust Buster Apr 2016 #29
Isn't that what this article is advocating for Bernie? Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2016 #35
Vatican enid602 Apr 2016 #27
He does won on the merits. pangaia Apr 2016 #56
You don't know what the word "merit" means, do you? IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #67
HA Goodman? Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2016 #3
How does that song go Dream on little dreamer dream on upaloopa Apr 2016 #5
H. A. Goodman has been wrong throughout this primary season. MineralMan Apr 2016 #7
No RandySF Apr 2016 #9
Does anyone even believe this? jcgoldie Apr 2016 #13
Yep, and Sanders can't claim the popular vote, either pandr32 Apr 2016 #52
HA Goodman! LOL. At least he's finally figured out that Clinton is going to win more delegates. DanTex Apr 2016 #19
He also wrote... factfinder_77 Apr 2016 #21
As a genre, I've always enjoyed counterfactual or alternate history. I'd love to see Goodman tritsofme Apr 2016 #24
They Haven’t Been Wrong Since 1975 And They Say Our Next President Will Be B Calm Apr 2016 #26
According to their mockup, Bernie is running against Bush. Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2016 #37
So, they were correct 100% of the time (excerpt when they were incorrect) Freddie Stubbs May 2016 #82
I have looked at a bunch of videos about the emails. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #28
I was originally stating that Goodman is an idiot. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #31
She's also going to come in 3rd place in Iowa... SidDithers Apr 2016 #33
Even so..I doubt that Bernie will win. But if he does... Jitter65 Apr 2016 #36
I doubt it... TCJ70 Apr 2016 #49
The Indictment Fairy Returns! Lil Missy Apr 2016 #51
I can only hope he is right. nt Land of Enchantment Apr 2016 #54
HA Goodman is a joke Gothmog Apr 2016 #59
haha Bringing Baghdad Bob over to DU again. I feel sorry for you. riversedge Apr 2016 #63
Oh, please. sofa king Apr 2016 #65
I will only vote for the person who actually wins the primaries alcibiades_mystery Apr 2016 #66
Goodman (January, 2016): Bernie Sanders Will Win Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina. Clicktok Apr 2016 #68
H A Goodman is a ***kin libertarian Rand lover workinclasszero Apr 2016 #71
Deus ex machina? This isn't some bad episode of Star Trek Freddie Stubbs Apr 2016 #76
Interesting that the writer according to his profile... LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #78
In the words of someone in a subreddit post... LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #80
Oh another episode of the Ron Paulite douchebag... Historic NY Apr 2016 #81
 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
1. The author of the article is much more reliable than BNR or The Daily Beast.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:31 AM
Apr 2016

Wanted to get that in there before the typical Hillary follower response.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
10. Similar to BNR
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:38 AM
Apr 2016

Blue Nation Review is just a Pravda-style propaganda outlet run by it's own Joseph Goebbels Peter Daou. It's owned by Correct The Record, one of Hillary's super-PACs which is ran by admitted liar David Brock. Brock previously gained recognition for his smears on Anita Hill, helping to get Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court, as well as his smears against the Clintons before they took him on the payroll.

The Daily Beast, has Chelsea on the board.

Those 2 sources alone are cited most often by Hillary followers, yet they love to claim Goodman is not legit.

Hypocrisy, thy name is Hillary follower...

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
14. I don't read BNR or Daily Beast.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:40 AM
Apr 2016

I doubt you'd ever find me linking to them.

Thanks for playing though.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
39. Did I specifically say you did? Nope.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:20 AM
Apr 2016

Hillary followers regularly do though. And Goodman is more legit than those sources.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
43. Goodman is not legit at all.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:26 AM
Apr 2016

Never once been right. Never.

BNR and Daily Beast were once regularly posted here at DU, as a good trusted source. HA Goodman has never been considered a trusted source, and never will be. It's just really bad fanfic.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
47. Nope, sorry
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:39 AM
Apr 2016

BNR and Daily Beast have been right, numerous times. You take issue with their CURRENT ownership, but they both have long histories of being correct. HA Goodman has a history of NEVER being right about ANYTHING.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
48. Nope sorry.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:46 AM
Apr 2016

While I'm sure my opinion means as much to you as yours does to me, the ownership is a undisputable fact - so really the only thing we can rely on...

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
73. Did BNR or Daily Beast advocate for Rand Paul?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:59 PM
Apr 2016

Because HA Goodman did. Which is why I'd NEVER support that asshat's horrid writing.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
74. Is HuffPo owned by a candidate's super-PAC?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:00 PM
Apr 2016

Nope. I'll take them over propaganda outlet Blue Nation Review any day of the week.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
77. BNR is owned by one of her super-PACs.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:08 PM
Apr 2016

Would rather take almost anyone's word over BNR, Peter Daou, David Brock and the rest of her paid propagandists...

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
50. Ha! Now we really know what side if the fence you are sitting on.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:00 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:53 PM - Edit history (1)



Some people just out themselves.

They can't help it.
 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
69. What side would that be?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:14 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary's? I'm a known supporter, and I don't hide that.

Or are you trying to imply something else because?

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
72. So... You've got nothing, then.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:56 PM
Apr 2016

As far as sides, I'm a lifelong Democrat. If you want to imply anything else, you got right ahead buddy. If it makes you feel better.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
2. Hoping for a miracle because you can't win on the merits. Hey, maybe that's the real reason that
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:33 AM
Apr 2016

Sanders is going to the Vatican.......LOL

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
11. I like how that number doesn't include several states...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:39 AM
Apr 2016

But you guys go ahead and cite numbers in error.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
38. Wow. Your comments here such as that one don't say a lot for your character.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:18 AM
Apr 2016

But I'm guessing you have some sense of pride from them. Enjoy.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
41. Again, if you feel those comments are reflective of your character, you should be proud of them.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:22 AM
Apr 2016

Personally, I would not. Nor would I support someone as corrupt as Hillary and try to tear down a rare honest policitian, but that's just me.

Enjoy your day.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
44. Are you not proud of your comments? Do they not reflect who you are as a person?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:27 AM
Apr 2016

You're the one making them. Be proud of what you are saying for that's who you are presenting to the world. Anonymous or not, you're saying "This is who and what I am. Here is what I believe in..."

Enjoy your day.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
46. This thread is about an OP claiming that Sanders will be the nominee even if he doesn't win
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:37 AM
Apr 2016

the pledged delegate count. I think that is blatantly untrue. And yes, I'm proud of that position.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
12. Makes sense - Sanders will be praying at the Vatican, Hillary worshiping at $353,000 a plate dinners
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:39 AM
Apr 2016

How appropriate.

Die Hard...
"You ask for a miracle Theo, and I give you the F B I."


jmg257

(11,996 posts)
20. Of course: #ImWith$$$. $1 Mil a plate, millions and millions from lobbyists to campaigns,
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:46 AM
Apr 2016

dark monies into foundations, 1/4 mil per speech.

I understand the attraction.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
25. We need to win this election, reshape the SC in order to reverse CU before we get religion about
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:51 AM
Apr 2016

money in politics otherwise the Republicans win and CU will be with us for a generation.

Merryland

(1,134 posts)
17. Excellent point - I hope the Sanders campaign
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:43 AM
Apr 2016

makes the most of this unfreaking believable $353,000 a plate dinner. Wonder what they'll be eating? Well, lots of crow come the convention...

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
53. hurry BSers...Bernie needs more donations
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:06 PM
Apr 2016

to spend on a losing campaign, and not for any down ticket assistance. Gotta make payroll for Weaver and family.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
60. No worries, what's a couple bucks for a good cause! Maybe Bill & Hill will adopt us all and give
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:14 PM
Apr 2016

us generous allowances!

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
62. maybe.. enjoy your purchases...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:20 PM
Apr 2016

you should be sure the fully enjoy the campaign and get your money's worth out of it....I know Bernie and Weaver will

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
29. Except that she's also winning in pledged delegates and votes and will widen that lead between
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:57 AM
Apr 2016

now and April 26. That is the merit of the situation.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
35. Isn't that what this article is advocating for Bernie?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:11 AM
Apr 2016

To win by virtue of super delegates, not on the merits of his campaign?

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
56. He does won on the merits.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:11 PM
Apr 2016

Too many people just say. 'Oh but Hillary can win the GE.' Then that becomes their reason for voting for Clinton.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
67. You don't know what the word "merit" means, do you?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:57 PM
Apr 2016
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/merit

merit (noun): The quality of being particularly good or worthy, especially so as to deserve praise or reward

It does not mean "be one of the most disliked politicians in the country and BUY YOUR WAY to a presidential nomination" - in fact, it means the OPPOSITE of Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump.
 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
3. HA Goodman?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:34 AM
Apr 2016

Isn't that the asshole who said they were voting for Rand Paul?

Also, is he actually pushing for the super delegates to override the will of the people? Fucking undemocratic POS.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
7. H. A. Goodman has been wrong throughout this primary season.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:35 AM
Apr 2016

Why would you think he is right today? He's wrong again. He will end up as the symbol of failed punditry following the November election.

My advice: If H. A. Goodman declares that something will happen, it is an absolutely safe bet to put your money on the opposite outcome.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
13. Does anyone even believe this?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:39 AM
Apr 2016

Aside from the fact that the superdelegates are probably extremely hesitant to swing the election to the candidate who did not win the most pledged delegates in the primaries, there is the not so small problem that Sanders has done zero to campaign or raise money for down ticket democrats. These are the people who are superdelegates at the convention. Why would they do him any favors? It's a ridiculous premise.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
19. HA Goodman! LOL. At least he's finally figured out that Clinton is going to win more delegates.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:44 AM
Apr 2016

Remember when he predicted that she was going to get third place in Iowa?

 

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(841 posts)
21. He also wrote...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:46 AM
Apr 2016

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tritsofme

(17,380 posts)
24. As a genre, I've always enjoyed counterfactual or alternate history. I'd love to see Goodman
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:50 AM
Apr 2016

take a stab, I can tell he is very creative and imaginative.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
37. According to their mockup, Bernie is running against Bush.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:17 AM
Apr 2016

They're already wrong.

Also, they've predicted 1975 correctly, but were wrong in 1987 (they picked Dukakis winning over Dole, so they were wrong twice on that one seeing as it was Dukakis v Bush). They were right in 2007 and 2011, however. So, 100% accurate isn't quite accurate, and they've only done it 5 times, not in every election since 1975 like the articles claim.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
28. I have looked at a bunch of videos about the emails.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:55 AM
Apr 2016

Those in the intelligence community take this very seriously. And from the things they say it sounds very serious. She put people's lives on the line, undercover moles in other countries, so she wouldn't be "inconvenienced", but it wasn't the inconvenience of using multiple devices, it was the inconvenience of having the pesky government or public oversight.

One of these people said that they heard from people in the FBI, that if they recommend indictment and the DOJ doesn't, somehow the information will find its way out and her career will be ovah.
It is serious what she did.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
31. I was originally stating that Goodman is an idiot.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:59 AM
Apr 2016

Fact is, it isn't Goodman lacking upstairs, it's those so willing to be used as his agents of ratfucking who are the idiots.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
33. She's also going to come in 3rd place in Iowa...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:00 AM
Apr 2016

according to Goodman.

Every-fucking-thing that guy writes should be roundly laughed at.



Sid

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
36. Even so..I doubt that Bernie will win. But if he does...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:17 AM
Apr 2016

Hillary will have two new grand babies to go home to and enjoy life. I think she wants to be President to do what she can to help the people. But at this time in her life..I really do believe she would be content with her life as it is now. Grandchildren have a way putting everything in perspective.

I neve have figured out why anyone would want to be President in this climate anyway.

Peace!!

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
49. I doubt it...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:58 AM
Apr 2016

...there's too much entrenchment against him for the supers to come over. He needs to beat her in pledged delegates or at least come a lot closer than he is for that to be valid.

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
59. HA Goodman is a joke
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:13 PM
Apr 2016

I am amused that people continue to post material from this idiot.

Thank you for the laughs

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
65. Oh, please.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:32 PM
Apr 2016

The real purpose of the email story is to sap enthusiasm from Bernie Sanders supporters. They can't steal it from us if you don't stay home on election day.

If you look at the structure of the "scandal" in the news one can easily see that it is a house of cards built upon a self-sustaining rumor-mill. One chump comes on CNN and says, "I think there's a chance Mrs. Clinton will be indicted," and the rest of the amen corner picks up the chant, then it becomes an opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal, then it becomes a bandied-about fact on television "news." But it's still bullshit.

This is exactly how WMDs in Iraq were sold to the American people, by the same criminals, and probably with just as much basis in fact.

It's a psyops being run on YOU, and it has to work for The Man to get close enough to steal it this time. No matter how much you want to believe, Hillary ain't The Man. The GOP would not have invested so much time and effort into this fallacious story if she was.


 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
71. H A Goodman is a ***kin libertarian Rand lover
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:33 PM
Apr 2016

Hes still prayin for Bernie to win so Herr Trump will be guaranteed the presidency!

LiberalFighter

(50,950 posts)
78. Interesting that the writer according to his profile...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:10 PM
Apr 2016

Goodman is also the author of Breaking the Devil's Heart and Logic of Demons, a widely acclaimed series of existential fantasy novels.

He is all about fantasy.

LiberalFighter

(50,950 posts)
80. In the words of someone in a subreddit post...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:16 PM
Apr 2016
We should be realistic instead of spamming this sub with worthless H.A. Goodman articles. He's optimistic to the point of delusion, everything he writes is worthless reposted fluff that refuses to acknowledge that while, yes, Bernie's doing surprisingly well, he's still FAR behind nationally and if any of us are honest, we know that he's not where he would prefer to be. He needs to do well in early primary states, which he's thankfully doing so far. But his victory is far from guaranteed, and frankly it's not a stretch to say he's not in a winning position right now.

Goodman is a distraction, reading his articles is living in a bubble and refusing to accept that Clinton does have more money, better organized and active supporters - from canvassers to phonebankers and so on - and her endorsement list is longer and more impressive.

If we read nothing but Goodman all damn day, everyone might just assume Sanders' nomination is inevitable and I think it really reinforces slacktivism.


Another poster pointed out that Goodman would vote for Rand Paul.

Goodman is nothing but drool.
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