2016 Postmortem

polly7

(20,582 posts) Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:36 AM Apr 2016

The Establishment Snarls a Warning to Sanders

Paul Krugman Over the Top

by Rick Sterling / April 10th, 2016

When Republicans are in the White House, Paul Krugman and the New York Times sometimes sound pretty good. But when someone starts seriously and effectively challenging core assumptions and values of our political economic system, the progressive veneer quickly vanishes. This is demonstrated in Paul Krugman’s verbal attack on the Bernie Sanders campaign in his “Sanders Over the Edge” editorial.

Krugman does not hold back. Bernie supporters and Bernie himself are described by Krugman as intolerant, cultish, shallow, vague, without substance, lacking character and values, dishonest, short on ethics, really bad, petulant and self-righteous. Wow!

Krugman’s diatribe deserves scrutiny and lampooning. The purpose seems to be to ridicule, threaten and warn Sanders to get back in line. Hopefully progressives will intensify support for Bernie and tell Krugman to get his facts straight.

Here are some key falsehoods in the Krugman attack:..........

Full article: http://dissidentvoice.org/2016/04/the-establishment-snarls-a-warning-to-sanders/#more-62336

(BBM). I had heard him a few times over the years, he's certainly changed his tune. I wish he'd go back to the statements he made then and try to figure out where he stands.

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The Establishment Snarls a Warning to Sanders (Original Post) polly7 Apr 2016 OP

K&R x1000 GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #1

Chameleons and charlatans. VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #5

Are you sure it was a "SNARL" ? Oh, the drama.......LOL Trust Buster Apr 2016 #2

Drama .......... people struggling and needing real change. polly7 Apr 2016 #3

The "snarl" in the OP was referring to Krugman. Thanks. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #8

No shit. His lies and trolling against Sanders and his suppporters - those people polly7 Apr 2016 #10

Grrrrrr!! Codeine Apr 2016 #4

No, just dishonest, desperate bullshit. polly7 Apr 2016 #6

The Agenda Is Always The Same - Enslave The 99% - Enrich The 1% cantbeserious Apr 2016 #7

Anybody have his email address? pdsimdars Apr 2016 #9

Krugman as an economist, generally OK; Krugman as a Hillary Clinton partisan, sucks and wrong. eom PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #11

Yeah, no kidding... tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #13

When Krugman Says Those Things About Bernie He Is Saying The Same About Me.... global1 Apr 2016 #12

I totally agree... tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #14

Krugman described Obama and his supporters the exact same way in 2008. cultish, petulant, demanding Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #15

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)

1. K&R x1000

Reply to polly7 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:38 AM

Apr 2016

All of a sudden all of the "progressives" have sounded pretty Third Way this election cycle. Pretty eye opening... It is all a charade these "progressives" in the MSM like Krugman, Maddow, etc.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)

5. Chameleons and charlatans.

Reply to GeorgiaPeanuts (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:42 AM

Apr 2016

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)

2. Are you sure it was a "SNARL" ? Oh, the drama.......LOL

Reply to polly7 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:38 AM

Apr 2016

polly7

(20,582 posts)

3. Drama .......... people struggling and needing real change.

Reply to Trust Buster (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:41 AM

Apr 2016

So typical.

Proud, eh?

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)

8. The "snarl" in the OP was referring to Krugman. Thanks.

Reply to polly7 (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:44 AM

Apr 2016

polly7

(20,582 posts)

10. No shit. His lies and trolling against Sanders and his suppporters - those people

Reply to Trust Buster (Reply #8)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:46 AM

Apr 2016

needing that change are more than a snarl, they're dishonest and creepy. The man, and many like him who railed against everything they're now suddenly for don't give one single shit about those filling the streets and stadiums looking for help. Instead, they outright lie and insult them - to preserve the status quo and the establishment that's enabled it.

Codeine

(25,586 posts)

4. Grrrrrr!!

Reply to Trust Buster (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:41 AM

Apr 2016

It was so scarrrrry!!!

polly7

(20,582 posts)

6. No, just dishonest, desperate bullshit.

Reply to Codeine (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:42 AM

Apr 2016

Hi, Codeine.

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)

7. The Agenda Is Always The Same - Enslave The 99% - Enrich The 1%

Reply to polly7 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:44 AM

Apr 2016

eom

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)

9. Anybody have his email address?

Reply to polly7 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:46 AM

Apr 2016

PufPuf23

(8,791 posts)

11. Krugman as an economist, generally OK; Krugman as a Hillary Clinton partisan, sucks and wrong. eom

Reply to polly7 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:49 AM

Apr 2016

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)

13. Yeah, no kidding...

Reply to PufPuf23 (Reply #11)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:13 AM

Apr 2016

I used to cheer him on when he would criticize the rediculousness of GWB and Repub economic and budget proposals, but that's like shooting fish in a barrel...definitely doesn't take a Nobel Prize economist to do that. dont know when PK turned into a media hack, but he's excelling at it.

global1

(25,253 posts)

12. When Krugman Says Those Things About Bernie He Is Saying The Same About Me....

Reply to polly7 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:52 AM

Apr 2016

a Bernie supporter. If Krugman speaks for the establishment - that's what the establishment thinks about us Bernie supporters as well. How then does the establishment think that we can vote for the establishment candidate when they talk so negative about us?

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)

14. I totally agree...

Reply to global1 (Reply #12)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:19 AM

Apr 2016

It's like establishment and their watercarriers don't get it that we get it...we know their game and what they are doing to further enrich their fellow country club members while the rest of us struggle.

No more smoke screens, no more bullshit...we get it and that's why we support Bernie.

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)

15. Krugman described Obama and his supporters the exact same way in 2008. cultish, petulant, demanding

Reply to polly7 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:55 AM

Apr 2016

venomous hero worshipers who were just like Bush supporters....

"I won’t try for fake evenhandedness here: most of the venom I see is coming from supporters of Mr. Obama, who want their hero or nobody. I’m not the first to point out that the Obama campaign seems dangerously close to becoming a cult of personality. We’ve already had that from the Bush administration — remember Operation Flight Suit? We really don’t want to go there again.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/11/opinion/11krugman.html

I can respect a good tantrum, but a template tantrum repeated every few years in service to the same candidate just looks like the meaningless offgassing that it is. People pay him to do this, which is amazing to me. Joan Walsh has also recycled entire 'Obama supporters are sexist' pieces this year for Bernie. It's just so redundant and robotic.

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