2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumParty nominating rules process have been in place for decades.
If you don't agree with them, then maybe you should join the party and work to change the rules. Democracy requires putting in a little effort.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Most here are life long Democrats.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)Now they say they are not complaining about that ...just the "will of the people" thingy.
I guess Tad thought no one would research has those rules came about.
revbones
(3,660 posts)Yavin4
(35,442 posts)in NY, etc.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Which sort of just proves that an echo chamber is just that... And echo chamber.
The OP with the petition is a great case study on why "ignore" doesn't work.
chillfactor
(7,576 posts)so no candidate can complain. I am so tired of hearing complaints about the delegate process....especially coming from blow-heart trump!
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)"a little effort." Joining the party is just the first step. Then, you have to demonstrate that you would be good in a leadership position and get elected to that position. Those who make those rules did that a long time ago, and have advanced in the party's leadership over the years.
It's hard, hard work to get to a position where you have any say whatsoever in such rules. There's no shortcut, either.
I'd like to see politically active millennials get started with the process. They're going to be needed, sooner rather than later.
I'm looking forward to see how many of the millennials who volunteered to be delegates to our state senate district convention actually show up next Saturday. Those that do will get my encouragement to get even more involved. There will be a bunch of open district committee seats open for election that day. I'll be encouraging my precinct's delegates to nominate themselves, or I'll nominate them on request. We'll see.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)lots of discussion and parsing of the nominating process and Party rules. 2008 was far more involved with all of that rules and rulings sort of politics than 2016 has been. Obama/Clinton was very much about playing the process to advantage and then complaining when the other candidate prevailed. It's always like that.
In 2008 you were busy bashing Hillary and now you are busy bashing Bernie so you have bashed both of our candidates and you don't seem familiar with Democratic culture.
TheBlackAdder
(28,209 posts).
The issue is that loyalty oaths and deals seem to have pre-awarded superdelegate votes before the state primaries occurred.
This presents the optic of a prejudged system, where the institutional forces have placed their thumbs on the scale.
Not only does it cast biases in primary voters minds, and spins the news discussions, but it also introduces speculations of deal-making and quid pro quo arrangements.
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