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Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
2. And put in place by such folks as Tad Devine.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:59 AM
Apr 2016

Now they say they are not complaining about that ...just the "will of the people" thingy.

I guess Tad thought no one would research has those rules came about.

Yavin4

(35,442 posts)
3. To the threads that call the process "rigged" or being upset that independents cannot vote
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:59 AM
Apr 2016

in NY, etc.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
5. Unfortunately that one seems to have a lot of us on ignore.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:01 PM
Apr 2016

Which sort of just proves that an echo chamber is just that... And echo chamber.

The OP with the petition is a great case study on why "ignore" doesn't work.

chillfactor

(7,576 posts)
4. AMEN!
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:00 PM
Apr 2016

so no candidate can complain. I am so tired of hearing complaints about the delegate process....especially coming from blow-heart trump!

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
7. Changing the rules takes much more than
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:06 PM
Apr 2016

"a little effort." Joining the party is just the first step. Then, you have to demonstrate that you would be good in a leadership position and get elected to that position. Those who make those rules did that a long time ago, and have advanced in the party's leadership over the years.

It's hard, hard work to get to a position where you have any say whatsoever in such rules. There's no shortcut, either.

I'd like to see politically active millennials get started with the process. They're going to be needed, sooner rather than later.

I'm looking forward to see how many of the millennials who volunteered to be delegates to our state senate district convention actually show up next Saturday. Those that do will get my encouragement to get even more involved. There will be a bunch of open district committee seats open for election that day. I'll be encouraging my precinct's delegates to nominate themselves, or I'll nominate them on request. We'll see.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
8. You must be new to the Party, old time Democrats know that every single contested primary involves
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:07 PM
Apr 2016

lots of discussion and parsing of the nominating process and Party rules. 2008 was far more involved with all of that rules and rulings sort of politics than 2016 has been. Obama/Clinton was very much about playing the process to advantage and then complaining when the other candidate prevailed. It's always like that.

In 2008 you were busy bashing Hillary and now you are busy bashing Bernie so you have bashed both of our candidates and you don't seem familiar with Democratic culture.

TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)
9. If the Democratic Party adds a candidate to their roster, then they were accepted into the fold.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:19 PM
Apr 2016

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The issue is that loyalty oaths and deals seem to have pre-awarded superdelegate votes before the state primaries occurred.


This presents the optic of a prejudged system, where the institutional forces have placed their thumbs on the scale.


Not only does it cast biases in primary voters minds, and spins the news discussions, but it also introduces speculations of deal-making and quid pro quo arrangements.



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