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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:17 PM Apr 2016

Sanders campaign no longer planning on winning pledged delegate majority

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-sanders-idUSKCN0X80Y1


Defying opinion polls and expert predictions, Democratic hopeful Bernie Sanders aims to seize the party's White House nomination from Hillary Clinton's grasp with a last-ditch come-from-behind triumph in California.

By far the most populous U.S. state, California is the largest prize of the state-by-state nominating contests, and the vote on June 7 is one of the last before Democrats convene in July to select a nominee for the Nov. 8 presidential election.

An aggressive schedule of large rallies is planned along with heavy purchases of TV, radio and online advertising in three languages and a "far, far more expensive" campaign effort than in any other state, Sanders campaign sources disclosed.

"I think they’re still riding rainbow unicorns if they think there’s a path," said Steve Schale, a Florida-based strategist, of Sanders' bid for the White House.

California has been a reliable source of campaign funds for Clinton, and opinion polls show her ahead there by as many as 14 percentage points. The statistical analysis media site FiveThirtyEight gives her a 91 percent chance of winning the state primary.

The Sanders campaign push aims to net as much as a 10-point win in California, helping him deny the front-running Clinton the 2,383 convention delegates she needs to clinch the nomination and give him the momentum to force a contested convention where he can try to win over the "superdelegates," those not decided by a state nominating contest and free to support anyone, the campaign sources said.


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-sanders-idUSKCN0X80Y1

The 2,3838 number is key. It means they aren't planning to hold Clinton under a majority of pledged delegates.

Instead, they're hoping to prevent Clinton by winning it by such a massive margin that she doesn't need a single superdelegate to receive the nomination.

And they're going to blow huge amounts of money in one of the safest blue states in the country.

For something that by its own terms is doomed to fail.


Clinton doesn't need 2,383 pledged delegates, she only needs 2026 and she's the nominee, because she has around 500 super delegates supporting her.

This is madness, or a scam being perpetrated by campaign insiders getting rich off of all the campaign spending.
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Sanders campaign no longer planning on winning pledged delegate majority (Original Post) geek tragedy Apr 2016 OP
More $$ for Tad. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #1
Then it is over. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #2
To be fair, even if it is doomed for failure, it is still playing by the rules. morningfog Apr 2016 #3
playing by the rules, but what are they trying to accomplish? geek tragedy Apr 2016 #5
+1, The Full-Of-Shit-OMeter just went to 8.2... No concrete plans on how he would implement... uponit7771 Apr 2016 #4
Consultants gotta get paid! Keep those donations rolling in Berners! tritsofme Apr 2016 #6
Hillary is toast. "Running on CP time" joke is the icing on her crappy cake. Video: CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #7
Oopsy! CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #9
I really hope the Bernie campaign tries to smear De Blasio as racist. Please, Bernie, go there. DanTex Apr 2016 #23
The Vatican is a tool of the 1 percent and Oligarchs1!1!! CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #8
I'm sure the longtime Dem SDs can't wait to abandon the PD leading Hillary for the firebrand80 Apr 2016 #10
Sanders is gonna use his influence to move the party left. killbotfactory Apr 2016 #11
"he will rally his supporters to get out and vote the GOP out of office at all levels of government" CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #13
Well I'm glad Clinton supporters, unlike BernieBros, aren't taking anything personally. killbotfactory Apr 2016 #16
Sanders is doing nothing for the party. Not for down ticket races, or to regain the Senate control. Lucinda Apr 2016 #14
in California? No, he's not blowing a bunch of money and holding geek tragedy Apr 2016 #17
The more delegates he has at the convention killbotfactory Apr 2016 #19
No, the more of a team player he is the more influence he gets on the platform. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #20
We'll see. nt killbotfactory Apr 2016 #21
"This is madness, or a scam being perpetrated by campaign insiders getting rich" Could be both. CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #12
K & R most enthusiastically. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #15
"she has around 500 super delegates supporting her." She doesn't have 500 a lock on them. imagine2015 Apr 2016 #18
Obama won a majority of pledged delegate jcgoldie Apr 2016 #22
 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
3. To be fair, even if it is doomed for failure, it is still playing by the rules.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:21 PM
Apr 2016

Isn't that was the super delegates are for?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. playing by the rules, but what are they trying to accomplish?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:22 PM
Apr 2016

they can't win this way.

they know it.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
4. +1, The Full-Of-Shit-OMeter just went to 8.2... No concrete plans on how he would implement...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:21 PM
Apr 2016

... major parts of his campaign, no real answers on how he would deal with congress, bag of imperfect just as full as Hillary's and now fuck DNC rules Imma win dammit attitude.

Is Sanders being paid to stay in!?

tritsofme

(17,380 posts)
6. Consultants gotta get paid! Keep those donations rolling in Berners!
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:25 PM
Apr 2016

Why stop now when you can collect a big check until June?

 

CorkySt.Clair

(1,507 posts)
9. Oopsy!
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:41 PM
Apr 2016

Here is the virulent racist DeBlasio with his family:



But you keep on with your wishful thinking, m'kay!

 

CorkySt.Clair

(1,507 posts)
8. The Vatican is a tool of the 1 percent and Oligarchs1!1!!
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:36 PM
Apr 2016

I bet DWS had something to do with this!1!11!




How dare they leave Bernie with only 10 minutes!1!1




killbotfactory

(13,566 posts)
11. Sanders is gonna use his influence to move the party left.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:57 PM
Apr 2016

It's not just about the presidency.

In the general he will rally his supporters to get out and vote the GOP out of office at all levels of government.

From there I hope it turns his movement into a pro-workers and pro-peace faction within the democratic party, to hold everyone's feet to the fire.

The GOP is about to implode, and there a ton of seats up for election.

It's time to take advantage of this, instead of poo-pooing the people rallying behind Sanders and telling them to sit down and shut up.

The odds heavily favor Clinton, and there is no way pro-establishment superdelegates are gonna switch votes, so why do Clinton supporters worry?

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
13. "he will rally his supporters to get out and vote the GOP out of office at all levels of government"
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:12 PM
Apr 2016

I don't believe that for a second. After he loses, his temper will send him back to Vermont to pout until the next Senate sessions starts. Sadners will finally reveal what a con artists he was the whole time by refusing to campaign for any Democrats in the fall.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
14. Sanders is doing nothing for the party. Not for down ticket races, or to regain the Senate control.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:15 PM
Apr 2016

He doesn't fundraise and barely mentions other Dems running for office.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
17. in California? No, he's not blowing a bunch of money and holding
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:18 PM
Apr 2016

rallies in California to help move the country left. California is already there.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
20. No, the more of a team player he is the more influence he gets on the platform.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:25 PM
Apr 2016

platform committee will be Hillary's people. If he tries to play hardball, they tell him to pound sand.

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
12. "This is madness, or a scam being perpetrated by campaign insiders getting rich" Could be both.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:10 PM
Apr 2016

The cynic in me, though, is leading to the scam. Too much money being funneled into the account of the man who decides whether or not to reduce or increase campaign spending for me to believe anything else.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
18. "she has around 500 super delegates supporting her." She doesn't have 500 a lock on them.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:19 PM
Apr 2016

They are free to vote for her or Bernie at the convention.

A few hundred of her super delegates at the 2008 convention flipped and voted for Obama.

They will flip again as the super delegates observe her campaign collapsing and the polls indicate she'll lose against a Republican presidential candidate.

"the Clinton campaign is collapsing" The Democrats Are Headed for a Contested Convention Too

Check out this article:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511705690

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