2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThere are at least two things wrong with this NYT report on Bernie backers and superdelegates
Philip Bump ?@pbump 13h13 hours ago
There are at least two things wrong with this. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/10/us/politics/primary-process-is-seen-as-in-conflict-with-democracy.html
Jim Kessler ?@ThirdWayKessler 4h4 hours ago Washington, DC
@pbump He's behind by 2.4 million votes, 57-43%. It has little to do with superdelegates. What's his beef?
Allan Brauer ?@allanbrauer 13h13 hours ago
@pbump 18 paragraphs in before he acknowledged Clinton's earned lead in pledged delegates.
Stephen Turner ?@SteveT_AU 12h12 hours ago
@joshtpm Yes, 19 paragraphs in:"Even if superdelegates did not exist, Mr. Sanders would still trail Mrs. Clinton by more than 200 delegates"
Josh Marshall ?@joshtpm 12h12 hours ago
It seems a bit much to ask that Clinton not only needs to beat Sanders but needs to explain the math to his supporters.
Leo Santos ?@_leosantos 13h13 hours ago
Take a quick look at @NHKathySullivan's to see what a bang up job Sanders bros are doing in making superdelegates #FleeTheBern
Kathy Sullivan ?@NHKathySullivan 22h22 hours ago
Bernie Sanders supporters being very cranky w/ me today. Interesting method of flipping super delegates!
Kathy Sullivan ?@NHKathySullivan 23h23 hours ago
@womancard do u really think that u r helping Bernie? Good luck with that!
Kathy Sullivan ?@NHKathySullivan 22h22 hours ago
@_marcusjay_ I have a pretty high tolerance, but when someone calls me a "Hillary bot", pleads age as defense, meh, not productive.
and this from the Burlington Press
Allan Brauer ?@allanbrauer 11h11 hours ago
This is a great idea because now Alan Grayson & Raul Grijalva have to vote for Clinton! (Growing backlash demands superdelegates vote Sanders) http://bfpne.ws/1S3jw9s
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)from people not really understanding the system. It allows Sanders, with a straight face, to argue that the system is rigged, and still ask the SDs to rig the system in his favor.
bigtree
(85,998 posts)it's hard to take Sanders fans' rage against the machine seriously when rage is based on complete misunderstanding of how the machine works
Cal33
(7,018 posts)choose between Sanders and Clinton against the Republican candidates for the
presidency, people overwhelmingly have chosen and still continue to prefer
Sanders over Clinton -- and by wide margins.
This definitely shows that more American people want Sanders for president. Try
to explain away this, if you can!
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)bigtree
(85,998 posts)Cal33
(7,018 posts)Last edited Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:04 AM - Edit history (1)
HWS allowing initially only 6 Democratic Presidential Primary Debates, and most of them
were scheduled on weekends or just before holidays, so that fewer people would be
watching on TV. HWS didn't want to give Sanders too much exposure to the public. He
wasn't known at the time, but whenever he made a speech, he would inevitably draw
large crowds. It was mainly by word of mouth. The American people wanted to see and
listen to what he had to say. Clinton drew small numbers.
The Establishment was supposed to be neutral. Well, it was anything but neutral. The
news media also helped Clinton by hardly showing or even barely mentioning Sanders'
name at all. Cheap, dirty tricks. It was unworthy of a former great Party.