They believe they have this in the bag.

who have and will vote for Hillary, what exactly are they in your opinion?

Remember, almost all of them voted for Barack, both times, the first Clinton, Carter, etc.

And the poster implied that Hillary supporters dont care about anything but winning.

And yes, most Bernie supporters voted for those other folks as well.

Seems though, all of a sudden, they (many, not all) have decided to draw a line (if Bernie loses, this has nothing to do with primaries) at Hillary.

When half said they would not vote for Obama?

Cue the outrage for calling out that democrats can be bought too.

If hillary wins, the right wing will be focusing so hard on trying to impeach her that they might have less energy for passing bathrooms laws, so there's that i guess.

The only reason not to vote if Hillary is the nominee is if you believe the only way to true change is to shock the system with a severe shock, so to speak.

Problem with that is while giving all power to the GOP will indeed cause over the top harm and destruction, there is no reason to believe people will react any differently than before, leaving us with a right wing government.

"CLEAR!" Dr. Sanders

He would shock the system only in that the wealthy and Wall Street and corporations might finally have to pay their proper share.

I was a dedicated Democrat before I could vote.

I had the leaning already (anti-Vietnam War) when my roommate Eric at sophomore year at boarding school 68-69 was the son of Maya Miller (of Nevada's Washoe Valley) and have been politicized and Democratic ever since.

You can take from that what you want...

cluster bombs and giving banks free rein. Among other things. The unpleasantness is just "extra".

About disagreeing with the things Clinton stands for?

I wouldn't worry about the unfavorable rating either if there weren't so many ethical red flags flying around her. But there are and Democrats are walking through a minefield with her at the head of the ticket.

Joyous voters who love her and are willing to stand in line for hours to cast that magic Hillary vote!!
Not gonna happen.

She's an old-school Republican, at best, whether you like it or not.

Guaranteed!

Once the FBI investigation.... Yeah, I'd be very proud of supporting a candidate where I could say things like that...

other than breaking a few rules and regs that many in her position break.

Looks like you and Sec. Clinton have the same poor judgment in common. You think it's no big deal to break rules and regulations because other people do it? Wow. You really set some really low standards for who will get your vote.

She had low favorable ratings before the FBI started investigating her activities. The investigation itself is, if anything, a negative-- regardless of how it plays out.

and they most certainly will rise once she is cleared.

I didn't realize being investigated by the FBI for violating a USCode was fake.

Guess we need to release all those so-called terrorists from prison since FBI investigations are fake.

18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information

It's the whole Bill and Hillary package. A lot of people are tired of them -- and worse -- because of the cumulative baggage they carry, most of which they have packed themselves. And many are tired of the stale brand of status quo politics the Clintons represent.

She might get elected -- But as for actually governing? Not so much. She will galvanize the GOP and right wing, and she will not have the national credibility to use the "bully pulpit" to win over the general population for much of anything.

I think she'll be lucky to get a Post Office named after George Washington.

she puts the party back together.

which is after they try and destroy and smear the only honest candidate running.

sure. that will happen

to a double cross if political winds shift or if position gets in the way of wealth, corporations, or MIC.

It means Hillary will never be president,
especially after the brokered Republican convention puts up someone like Ryan.

We deserve a better choice.

Party in the dust where it belongs.
PS 'Happy National Grilled Cheese Sandwich Day' today. I heard that on the Weather Channel this morning!

http://www.foodandwine.com/slideshows/best-grilled-cheese-in-the-us

Sometimes I read posts a few days later. I missed it.

Her negative rating won't matter because his is worse.

That's why she says she'll worry about bringing the party together later, because she believes Dems will vote for her even if they hate her.

They will rig the convention and get someone else in there, possibly even someone that is not even running yet. Unfortunately for us Bernie supporters the same thing will happen at the Democratic convention. They will make sure Hillary is the nominee.

Republicans who will be. Too many on the Left won't vote for her. She was at 30% won't vote for her two weeks ago and it's growing by 7% a month.

I don't like Hillary, and I actually despise Bill Clinton, but I will vote for her in the general if she is the Dem nominee, because the Repukes are thousands of times worse.

If she's the president and tries to ram TPP or mean-testing Social Security through Congress, many of her loyal Democratic subjects there will be given cover to pass it.

However, if a Republican tries to do it, they'll stand up to him.

You hit the nail on the head. Thank you.

Don't care about Hillary's negative attributes, any time they are faced with a negative, yet truthful, facts against Hillary, they tend to just brush it off as a 'right wing smear'. That is why she is going to do poorly if she makes the GE.

likely continue to rise as she goes more negative on Bernie and now that he has caught fire she finds herself at the fork in the road. The more she hammered Obama (also unknown in 2008) the more her negative numbers climbed. She can't really ignore Bernie either although she has tried and that didn't work. Even though some of her surrogates have asked her to 'run like Sanders' and try clear, clean direct answers she has not taken their advice.

As Yogi Berra once said, "When you come to a fork in the road, take it."

Thanks for the thought provoking post that is now like an earworm for me. It's a VERY good question.

I still think she's going to win.

I do think it's a topic for some rational examination, but this isn't really the place.

....the candidate that is leading in the primaries and will go on to get the nomination.

What possible purpose does one have posting something like this on DU?

He's taking a lot of heat off of Hillary because he's the only one who has a higher unfavorable rating.

And that's enthusiasm & shame factor.
They should ask questions like, "Will you definitely show up to vote for the candidate A?" "Who is your first and second choice in a hypothetical GE match-up?"

White people tend to hide the fact that they're supporting Trump becaused they're embarrassed. Trust me, I've seen some white folks who seem to like him but are pretending otherwise. And while (young) white liberals and progressives don't like Trump, they don't like Hillary, either. It's very likely that they'll not be excited enough to show up. Or they'll show up to vote for Jill Stein.
If it's Trump vs Hillary, the racial divide along the party line will be immense. And she may not get enough white votes to win.

They love love her, and thats all that matters. Damn the party. Damn the GE.

Set aside the rivalry between the two Democratic camps and just look at those damn figures! How exactly can we be seriously contemplating running a candidate with a 31% favorable in a general election?! Are we seriously just sitting and hoping that the Republicans do self destruct and nominate someone with even worse favorables? Is that really how low we've fallen?