2016 Postmortem

bigtree

(85,998 posts) Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:14 PM Apr 2016

Bishop spills on who initiated Sanders' Rome conference 'invite'

Alan Kestrel ?@AlanKestrel750 20h20 hours ago
Sorondo repeatedly refrained from saying who contacted who first. Until now. From April 8th. http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-04-08/sanders-accused-of-discourtesy-in-seeking-vatican-invitation …

Ale ?@aliasvaughn 20h20 hours ago
Sorondo commenting to CNN stating Sanders reached out to Vatican first and invitation is of course not endorsement

...and, this:

Ale ?@aliasvaughn 2h2 hours ago
@AlGiordano @allanbrauer http://ilsismografo.blogspot.it/2016/04/vaticano-il-senatore-sanders-potrebbe.html?m=1 … "Sanders may suspend visit to Vatican following polemics".

Ale ?@aliasvaughn 2h2 hours ago
@AlGiordano @allanbrauer @allanbrauer "No official confirmation exists that Bernie Sanders in the end will participate to a meeting

Translated page of Vatican on Sanders possibly postponing going

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Bishop spills on who initiated Sanders' Rome conference 'invite' (Original Post) bigtree Apr 2016 OP

Wow - "He has expressed an interest many times..." revbones Apr 2016 #1

I think the irony escaped the OPer in the attempt at a gotchya Armstead Apr 2016 #20

Reminds me of when McCain arranged meetings for Palin livetohike Apr 2016 #2

Same MO. LOL! Bulk up that résumé! Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #5

Yes, Secretary Clinton gained a lot of Experience as SOS... Human101948 Apr 2016 #15

Yes, if I recall, she logged more air miles than any SoS in history. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #18

Will she keep using it as a personal fund raising vehicle? Human101948 Apr 2016 #21

Oh, she'll keep tirelessly fund-raising for her many grateful Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #22

How the DNC Helps Clinton Buy Off Superdelegates Human101948 Apr 2016 #29

Kerry breaks record for miles traveled by secretary of state frylock Apr 2016 #25

I did not know that. Thanks for the update. Well done, Sec. Kerry. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #30

Yes, he has done quite a job of cleaning up his predecessor's mess. frylock Apr 2016 #31

Funny, I've never heard him express those sentiments. Even on background. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #32

That's because Kerry is a class act. frylock Apr 2016 #34

Obviously, you do have the insider track as to Sec. Kerry's thinking. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #36

My relationship to Kerry is as close as those who claim that Obama and Hillary are besties. frylock Apr 2016 #37

Well done. How did you make his acquaintance? Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #40

Perhaps. frylock Apr 2016 #42

Funny I just heard you assert that Hillary has the most air miles of any Sec of State when both Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #35

Beg pardon, but I purposely used the qualifying phrase, "if I recall" in front of my assertion. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #39

More sniper fire per mile than any SoS, too. Very formidable. Karmadillo Apr 2016 #33

so completely petty. Get.the.fuck.over.it. Schema Thing Apr 2016 #3

If only the Sanders crowd would quit fucking talking about it. Ten threads minimum just today. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #6

Sanders pander fail bigtree Apr 2016 #11

You dare slander Sanders' pander meander? Such candor! nt CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #17

Rescinding this invite would be a smart move. But, they are painted into a corner. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #4

Jeffrey's happy. He gets a whole half hour on the morning of the first day. St. Bern is relegated Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #7

He'll burn through many tens of thousands of dollars to attend that conference for 600 seconds. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #14

Yeah the first Politico Headline kennetha Apr 2016 #16

if he tries to wrangle out of it bigtree Apr 2016 #12

Terrible idea to begin with BeyondGeography Apr 2016 #8

Man, who is managing that campaign?? ... salinsky Apr 2016 #9

Just people who went from 3 percent to about 40 percent in 5 months Armstead Apr 2016 #28

Bully for them ... salinsky Apr 2016 #38

So he DID get invited? And he DID get a speaking opportunity? Nice. jmg257 Apr 2016 #10

They better move that goal again!!! QC Apr 2016 #24

But we shouldn't believe Bishops. Jitter65 Apr 2016 #13

Man, this thing is really eating at you guys, isn't it? /nt Marr Apr 2016 #19

Never seen anything quite like it. frylock Apr 2016 #27

How many bottles of Maalox have you burned through this weekend? frylock Apr 2016 #23

"he has expressed an interest in the encyclical many times and clear he has an interest..." Armstead Apr 2016 #26

bigtree and Pope Francis: A Retrospective Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #41

You'd think Bernie had been begging to make animal sacrifices Vinca Apr 2016 #43

god forbid anyone ever express an interest anything. verboten! Hiraeth Apr 2016 #44

revbones

(3,660 posts)

1. Wow - "He has expressed an interest many times..."

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:16 PM

Apr 2016

You do realize you're just proving that he's a good guy there right?

Armstead

(47,803 posts)

20. I think the irony escaped the OPer in the attempt at a gotchya

Reply to revbones (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:41 PM

Apr 2016

livetohike

(22,147 posts)

2. Reminds me of when McCain arranged meetings for Palin

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:18 PM

Apr 2016

with foreign officials to build up her foreign policy "experience".

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)

5. Same MO. LOL! Bulk up that résumé!

Reply to livetohike (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:19 PM

Apr 2016

Human101948

(3,457 posts)

15. Yes, Secretary Clinton gained a lot of Experience as SOS...

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:33 PM

Apr 2016

and helped the Clinton Foundation bulk up their bank account with a few deft moves supplying weapons to the contributors in exchange. Great entry on her résumé!

http://www.salon.com/2015/05/31/the_cash_donations_hillary_simply_has_no_answer_for_partner/

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)

18. Yes, if I recall, she logged more air miles than any SoS in history.

Reply to Human101948 (Reply #15)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:40 PM

Apr 2016

Amazing energy and stamina. She'll be a formidable leader.

Human101948

(3,457 posts)

21. Will she keep using it as a personal fund raising vehicle?

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Reply #18)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:41 PM

Apr 2016

She got a lot of mileage out of that.

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)

22. Oh, she'll keep tirelessly fund-raising for her many grateful

Reply to Human101948 (Reply #21)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:43 PM

Apr 2016

Dem. House and Senate colleagues.

Human101948

(3,457 posts)

29. How the DNC Helps Clinton Buy Off Superdelegates

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Reply #22)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:49 PM

Apr 2016

How the DNC Helps Clinton Buy Off Superdelegates
As floodgates open to donations from special interests, the future of the party is auctioned to the highest bidder

In a giant step backwards in eliminating special interests in Washington, the Democratic National Committee overturned a ban introduced by Barack Obama in 2008 restricting donations from federal lobbyists and super PACs. Unfortunately for Bernie Sanders’ supporters—who take pride in the Democratic presidential candidate’s refusal to accept funds from super PACs—the decision disproportionately benefits Hillary Clinton, as she is the only Democratic presidential candidate taking such donations.

http://observer.com/2016/02/how-the-dnc-helps-clinton-buy-off-superdelegates/

Well, we know who they and Hillary will be representing after they get in office.

frylock

(34,825 posts)

25. Kerry breaks record for miles traveled by secretary of state

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Reply #18)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:45 PM

Apr 2016

MANAMA, Bahrain — John Kerry is now the most traveled secretary of state in U.S. history, breaking the record as he arrived in the Middle East kingdom of Bahrain on Wednesday.

The trip pushed Kerry past 1.06 million miles as America’s top diplomat, narrowly beating Condoleezza Rice by about 1,000 miles. Rice, who was secretary of state under President George W. Bush, held the previous mark with 1.059 million miles.

Kerry eclipsed Hillary Clinton’s mileage tally in December.

<more>

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/kerry-breaks-record-for-miles-traveled-by-secretary-of-state/

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)

30. I did not know that. Thanks for the update. Well done, Sec. Kerry.

Reply to frylock (Reply #25)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:52 PM

Apr 2016

Most excellent public servant.

frylock

(34,825 posts)

31. Yes, he has done quite a job of cleaning up his predecessor's mess.

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Reply #30)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:53 PM

Apr 2016

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)

32. Funny, I've never heard him express those sentiments. Even on background.

Reply to frylock (Reply #31)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:58 PM

Apr 2016

In fact, quite the contrary.

But then, you are probably privy to insider info. that others do not have.

frylock

(34,825 posts)

34. That's because Kerry is a class act.

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Reply #32)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:04 PM

Apr 2016

Class being a foreign concept to your candidate. She even talks shit about her former boss.

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)

36. Obviously, you do have the insider track as to Sec. Kerry's thinking.

Reply to frylock (Reply #34)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:07 PM

Apr 2016

You must have a close relationship with the man to know him so intimately. Good on you!

frylock

(34,825 posts)

37. My relationship to Kerry is as close as those who claim that Obama and Hillary are besties.

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Reply #36)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:09 PM

Apr 2016

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)

40. Well done. How did you make his acquaintance?

Reply to frylock (Reply #37)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:16 PM

Apr 2016

Or, perhaps you're childhood friends.

frylock

(34,825 posts)

42. Perhaps.

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Reply #40)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:20 PM

Apr 2016

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)

35. Funny I just heard you assert that Hillary has the most air miles of any Sec of State when both

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Reply #32)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:06 PM

Apr 2016

Kerry and Condi have more. Saying things that are not true is very much not cool.

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)

39. Beg pardon, but I purposely used the qualifying phrase, "if I recall" in front of my assertion.

Reply to Bluenorthwest (Reply #35)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:13 PM

Apr 2016

When someone brought to my attention that Sec. Kerry had surpassed her record last December, I was happy to acknowledge it.

But, well done on your discerning eye for verisimilitude.

Karmadillo

(9,253 posts)

33. More sniper fire per mile than any SoS, too. Very formidable.

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Reply #18)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:03 PM

Apr 2016

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)

3. so completely petty. Get.the.fuck.over.it.

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:19 PM

Apr 2016

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)

6. If only the Sanders crowd would quit fucking talking about it. Ten threads minimum just today.

Reply to Schema Thing (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:21 PM

Apr 2016

Are you going on those threads and telling them to "shut the fuck up already?"

Well?

bigtree

(85,998 posts)

11. Sanders pander fail

Reply to Schema Thing (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:26 PM

Apr 2016

...epic.

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)

17. You dare slander Sanders' pander meander? Such candor! nt

Reply to bigtree (Reply #11)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:39 PM

Apr 2016

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)

4. Rescinding this invite would be a smart move. But, they are painted into a corner.

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:19 PM

Apr 2016

Making the invitation was a bad move in the first place; Europe is particularly sensitive about staying out of US politics.

Taking it back now would be a huge slap in the face for Sanders.

The was a stupid stunt by the Sanders clan (Jeffrey Sachs, it seems).

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)

7. Jeffrey's happy. He gets a whole half hour on the morning of the first day. St. Bern is relegated

Reply to Buzz Clik (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:22 PM

Apr 2016

to a 10 min. slot just before the afternoon coffee break. Hardly the Keynote position.

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)

14. He'll burn through many tens of thousands of dollars to attend that conference for 600 seconds.

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Reply #7)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:33 PM

Apr 2016

Speaking to a tiny crowd.

kennetha

(3,666 posts)

16. Yeah the first Politico Headline

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Reply #7)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:39 PM

Apr 2016

which can still find on a google search but is now gone says

"Sanders to Headline Vatican Conference"

I wonder where they go that now debunked idea.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)

12. if he tries to wrangle out of it

Reply to Buzz Clik (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:28 PM

Apr 2016

...it'll look like he put the campaign before whatever principle he claims is behind all of this maneuvering.

BeyondGeography

(39,375 posts)

8. Terrible idea to begin with

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:22 PM

Apr 2016

If this contest was for shits and giggles, I would be all-in for Sanders.

salinsky

(1,065 posts)

9. Man, who is managing that campaign?? ...

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:24 PM

Apr 2016

... wrangle an invite to speak for 10 minutes to theologians on coffee break just two days before a crucial primary.

... what a clusterfuck.

Armstead

(47,803 posts)

28. Just people who went from 3 percent to about 40 percent in 5 months

Reply to salinsky (Reply #9)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:48 PM

Apr 2016

salinsky

(1,065 posts)

38. Bully for them ...

Reply to Armstead (Reply #28)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:11 PM

Apr 2016

... remind me again what the prize is for second place.

A trip halfway around the world to speak for ten minutes to theologians on coffee break?

jmg257

(11,996 posts)

10. So he DID get invited? And he DID get a speaking opportunity? Nice.

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:25 PM

Apr 2016

QC

(26,371 posts)

24. They better move that goal again!!!

Reply to jmg257 (Reply #10)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:44 PM

Apr 2016

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)

13. But we shouldn't believe Bishops.

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:28 PM

Apr 2016

only .... Bernie.

Marr

(20,317 posts)

19. Man, this thing is really eating at you guys, isn't it? /nt

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:40 PM

Apr 2016

frylock

(34,825 posts)

27. Never seen anything quite like it.

Reply to Marr (Reply #19)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:47 PM

Apr 2016

frylock

(34,825 posts)

23. How many bottles of Maalox have you burned through this weekend?

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:43 PM

Apr 2016

This invite should have you vomiting blood any day now.

Armstead

(47,803 posts)

26. "he has expressed an interest in the encyclical many times and clear he has an interest..."

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:46 PM

Apr 2016

You just undercut your own case that this is just a political stunt.

"My God. Bernie is going to the Vatican! How can I ever live again?"

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)

41. bigtree and Pope Francis: A Retrospective

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:19 PM

Apr 2016

This man is on the right track to get me to like him - gotta love who he's upsetting here.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022582942

Martin O'Malley: 'Gracias Sophie for your courage & letter to Pope Francis'
Martin O'Malley ?@MartinOMalley 5h5 hours ago
Gracias Sophie for your courage & letter to @Pontifex. As POTUS, I’ll act immediately so families stay together. -O’M
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251620359

Pope Francis Weeps for the Children of War
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025305109

But now, it's all different because, well. Bernie.

Vinca

(50,279 posts)

43. You'd think Bernie had been begging to make animal sacrifices

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:21 PM

Apr 2016

at the altar of a Satanic cult. Get a life people.

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)

44. god forbid anyone ever express an interest anything. verboten!

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:22 PM

Apr 2016

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