2016 Postmortem

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts) Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:31 PM Apr 2016

stop telling me how to feel, what to think, or who i am voting for. just stop.

clearly the HORRIBLE unfaves of the chosen one are rattling everyone. it is clear she cannot win a ge without all dem hands on deck AND many indys and some crossovers. and that ain't gonna happen.

i am seeing an explosion of comments about how bernie supporters will "come around" , how trump will destroy the country, we will get over it, etc.

clintons campaign said their m.o, is to DESTROY bernie and put things back together again. not gonna work for me, and fear to vote the lesser evil is no longer a viable option for many. even the polls are suggesting this to be the case.

if you are worried about having a weak losing candidate who can't win a ge, i have a simple solution for you. SUPPORT BERNIE. there is still time.

otherwise, stop trying to convince yourselves that she will be the great uniter after running a smear and destroy campaign.

not. gonna. happen.

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stop telling me how to feel, what to think, or who i am voting for. just stop. (Original Post) restorefreedom Apr 2016 OP

I suddenly want a big box of new Crayolas! merrily Apr 2016 #1

that sounds like fun! restorefreedom Apr 2016 #2

Sigh.... CrispyQ Apr 2016 #5

yes, a sharpener! forgot about that. nt restorefreedom Apr 2016 #9

If you are telling someone that you don't want to be told what to do, here's the best way to do it! TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #3

i know! :) nt restorefreedom Apr 2016 #11

Bernie supporters will come around, and Bernie will endorse her. DanTex Apr 2016 #4

I'm Not So Sure About That PCPrincess Apr 2016 #6

It's only "noticeable" in the Bernie bubble. Privileged people who can afford to watch others suffer DanTex Apr 2016 #8

There are no facts, only interpretations. Friedrich Nietzsche Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #20

Your words: asuhornets Apr 2016 #7

She said it by not endorsing Bernie. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #12

On CNN the night Bernie won WI, Clinton's campaign sent over a declaration to the reporter who was JudyM Apr 2016 #13

i never said SHE HERSELF said that. it was reported as a campaign strategy restorefreedom Apr 2016 #16

Extending an olive branch to Sanders' supporters "will come later," an adviser said. Contrary1 Apr 2016 #10

More like a bayonet. nt VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #14

yes. nt restorefreedom Apr 2016 #17

I will vote for Hillary katmondoo Apr 2016 #15

your vote your option. restorefreedom Apr 2016 #18

I do not know MuseRider Apr 2016 #19

me either. i only know one person voting for her restorefreedom Apr 2016 #21

merrily

(45,251 posts)

1. I suddenly want a big box of new Crayolas!

Reply to restorefreedom (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:36 PM

Apr 2016

http://myths.e2bn.org/mythsandlegends/origins1-humpty-dumpty-and-the-fall-of-colchester.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humpty_Dumpty

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)

2. that sounds like fun!

Reply to merrily (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:37 PM

Apr 2016

i always got a kick out of a fresh new box....its a jumbo pack..we can share!

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)

5. Sigh....

Reply to restorefreedom (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:53 PM

Apr 2016

Bonus points if it has the sharpener in the back. In my day the 64 pack was the max.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)

9. yes, a sharpener! forgot about that. nt

Reply to CrispyQ (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:25 PM

Apr 2016

TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)

3. If you are telling someone that you don't want to be told what to do, here's the best way to do it!

Reply to restorefreedom (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:39 PM

Apr 2016

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Just kidding, the irony compelled me.

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restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)

11. i know! :) nt

Reply to TheBlackAdder (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:27 PM

Apr 2016

DanTex

(20,709 posts)

4. Bernie supporters will come around, and Bernie will endorse her.

Reply to restorefreedom (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:45 PM

Apr 2016

A few Bernie or Busters will try to get Trump elected instead, and you might be one of those, but the vast majority of Bernie supporters will join Bernie in supporting Hillary and working to defeat the Republicans.

PCPrincess

(68 posts)

6. I'm Not So Sure About That

Reply to DanTex (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:59 PM

Apr 2016

There is a noticeable uptick in momentum of progressives who wont A) stay a Democrat after this election and B) vote for Hillary in the general. I commented just yesterday to someone that I had just seen my first (of what I think will be many) mainstream publications that tout AGAINST the "lesser of two evils" voting paradigm. They made a very good argument as to why also.

As an aside, I am a progressive who will ONLY vote for a true progressive candidate or, in the event that one is not available, I will write one in or make the choice that will shorten the time required before another election may allow for a progressive choice. I always make my voting choices based on what I think is best for the majority rather than a minority and not based on selfish personal needs.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)

8. It's only "noticeable" in the Bernie bubble. Privileged people who can afford to watch others suffer

Reply to PCPrincess (Reply #6)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:03 PM

Apr 2016

in order to bring about the "revolution" at some unspecified later date.

It's nowhere near as pronounced as it was in 2008, and Clinton supporters back then came around too.

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)

20. There are no facts, only interpretations. Friedrich Nietzsche

Reply to DanTex (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:17 PM

Apr 2016

Thanks, for participating with your interpretation.

asuhornets

(2,405 posts)

7. Your words:

Reply to restorefreedom (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:02 PM

Apr 2016

"Clintons campaign said their m.o, is to DESTROY bernie and put things back together again." When did she say that?

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)

12. She said it by not endorsing Bernie.

Reply to asuhornets (Reply #7)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:30 PM

Apr 2016

At least that would be my guess.

How DARE she try to win.

JudyM

(29,251 posts)

13. On CNN the night Bernie won WI, Clinton's campaign sent over a declaration to the reporter who was

Reply to asuhornets (Reply #7)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:35 PM

Apr 2016

in the midst of interviewing sanders' campaign mgr. The reporter read directly from the note that Clinton's campaign was announcing a new strategy going forward to disqualify and destroy Bernie and put the party back together afterward.

This was at the moment of hard fought victory for sanders campaign and the implication was that they were going to take the gloves off and start attacking. By "disqualifying" him.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)

16. i never said SHE HERSELF said that. it was reported as a campaign strategy

Reply to asuhornets (Reply #7)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:44 PM

Apr 2016

Hillary Clinton campaign has “lost patience” and will start going after Sen. Bernard Sanders much harder and hoping to destroy his campaign, CNN reported Tuesday night.

In a report after Mrs. Clinton’s latest defeat at the hands of the Vermont socialist, reporter Jeff Zeleny said the Clinton campaign has decided that party unity can come later.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/5/hillary-clinton-has-lost-patience-bernie-sanders-w/

Contrary1

(12,629 posts)

10. Extending an olive branch to Sanders' supporters "will come later," an adviser said.

Reply to restorefreedom (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:26 PM

Apr 2016

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)

14. More like a bayonet. nt

Reply to Contrary1 (Reply #10)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:40 PM

Apr 2016

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)

17. yes. nt

Reply to VulgarPoet (Reply #14)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:52 PM

Apr 2016

katmondoo

(6,457 posts)

15. I will vote for Hillary

Reply to restorefreedom (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:41 PM

Apr 2016

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)

18. your vote your option.

Reply to katmondoo (Reply #15)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:55 PM

Apr 2016

i don't think people should be trying to tell others whose mind is made up who to vote for.

MuseRider

(34,111 posts)

19. I do not know

Reply to restorefreedom (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:14 PM

Apr 2016

more than one Bernie supporter who will vote for her. Under no circumstances will they even consider it. Not a real small sampling either. It should be considered, she will not win without them and likely will not even win with them. Olive Branch? In what world would someone believe that said by someone like HRC?

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)

21. me either. i only know one person voting for her

Reply to MuseRider (Reply #19)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:30 PM

Apr 2016

and they have always been for her. the bernie people are split between write ins, stein, and even trump. some will stay home.

i was told here that my world experience was a fluke. but if there are enough of us who know people who will not vote for hillary, its not a fluke. its reality.

she can't win. its that simple.

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