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BERNIE HEADLINES 1ST DAY OF VATICAN CONFERENCE!!! (Original Post) floppyboo Apr 2016 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author oasis Apr 2016 #1
4 in the afternoon sandwiched between a discussion and a coffee break is the headliner spot? DrDan Apr 2016 #2
Envy AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #4
it is the shortest speaker-time allotment of the day DrDan Apr 2016 #6
Or jealousy, which ever term you prefer... AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #7
your delusion - your dime DrDan Apr 2016 #10
Your preferred candidate was snubbed AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #11
She wasn't snubbed rock Apr 2016 #30
Beg to be invited is your delusion. Invited is fact. Expressing interest in global povery is Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #75
No rock Apr 2016 #79
Well the Hillarians seem to think so . . . so I guess the answer is Yes! Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #82
Poverty is funny? That's the problem with Hillary. Joe the Revelator Apr 2016 #89
It's cackle worthy...oh those little people nt artislife Apr 2016 #122
trade enid602 Apr 2016 #98
You just don't understand SCantiGOP Apr 2016 #136
Jeffrey Sachs, who was invited earlier, WANTED Bernie to be invited. Fawke Em Apr 2016 #114
Imagine your going to see a Rock show (okay, not Springsteen) floppyboo Apr 2016 #12
lol - enjoy the delusion DrDan Apr 2016 #14
You are so cute! Almost childlike innocence, except babies don't live that way intentionally. nt floppyboo Apr 2016 #27
YES!!! He's the closing speaker! Check the schedule. floppyboo Apr 2016 #5
shortest time allotted for the day - lol DrDan Apr 2016 #8
What time slot was Hillary invited to speak in? AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #15
lol - you mean she did not ask for a 10 minute time slot DrDan Apr 2016 #16
How long is Hillary's time slot? AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #19
I am surprised he could break away from meeting with the Pope for even 10 minutes DrDan Apr 2016 #24
Oh, Please. What is the longest speaking slot? 15 minutes. bjo59 Apr 2016 #128
just pointing this out in the context of the OP - that this is a headline speech DrDan Apr 2016 #131
10 minutes is still better than NO minutes, which is what your candidate has. eom Fawke Em Apr 2016 #20
don't believe she asked for any minutes - she has a campaign to manage DrDan Apr 2016 #22
She has a Goldman Sachs fundraiser to attend. There, I fixed it for you. arcane1 Apr 2016 #25
Actually, it's a $350,000 plate dinner with the Clooneys. Fawke Em Apr 2016 #115
and whos campaign would that be? litlbilly Apr 2016 #125
This message was self-deleted by its author Vilis Veritas Apr 2016 #34
You're not glad a candidate for the first time in history of the US was invited to speak about Joob Apr 2016 #132
I think it is an honor - I do not think there is a need to overstate what is happening DrDan Apr 2016 #133
The closing speaker before the speaker 45 minutes later? brooklynite Apr 2016 #29
You should read the OP title at least before you post. doh! nt floppyboo Apr 2016 #33
No speakers follow Sanders. Just response and discussion nt floppyboo Apr 2016 #49
The "2nd response" is a scheduled speech... brooklynite Apr 2016 #50
oh, do you have that link, and were they responding to Correa instead? nt floppyboo Apr 2016 #66
Here's the schedule as it appeared on Saturday. brooklynite Apr 2016 #78
You were bitching that he was not on the program passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #134
Looks like they changed alot! Wonder when that sched came out originally. floppyboo Apr 2016 #84
LOL. The coveted 10-minute slot right before the coffee break! DanTex Apr 2016 #17
coveted last speaker of the day, I think you meant. floppyboo Apr 2016 #38
I'll try another analogy you might understand: floppyboo Apr 2016 #45
You realize there's a whole other day to the conference, right? And also that there's another DanTex Apr 2016 #47
Let's see. It's an exultation of larks, a pride of lions, and a bumfuckery of Dans. HERVEPA Apr 2016 #55
Here's the latest link I have. Is there another? Because on this, there are no further speakers. floppyboo Apr 2016 #57
"16:45 Session #4: second respondent Professor Hsin-Chi Kuan" DanTex Apr 2016 #65
yes, I see that. Respondant. nt floppyboo Apr 2016 #67
Umm, yeah, a respondent is a speaker. DanTex Apr 2016 #70
nice try floppyboo Apr 2016 #76
In other words, a respondent speaks. What's even more funny is that they slipped DanTex Apr 2016 #80
They're giving Bernie a 5 min. introduction with circling doves oasis Apr 2016 #87
When's Hillary come on? Octafish Apr 2016 #26
she is sticking around NY - her internals look pretty good - no reason to abandon ship DrDan Apr 2016 #28
Or maybe going to the Bay Area to peddle influence at a couple $353K /plate glam dinners. jmg257 Apr 2016 #37
helping the downticket candidates . . . what has your candidate done to help them DrDan Apr 2016 #44
Wow, you're throwing in every talking point Clinton has ever had, all in one thread. arcane1 Apr 2016 #46
just responding to the posts - I did not bring up that fundraiser DrDan Apr 2016 #51
the downticket SD have already paid their own way. floppyboo Apr 2016 #96
do you have the meme of the day list in front of you? litlbilly Apr 2016 #127
You are privy to her doctor's reports? HERVEPA Apr 2016 #59
I see what you did - lol DrDan Apr 2016 #62
We do know what your colonoscopy reports would show. HERVEPA Apr 2016 #64
classy, juvenile, . . . but expected DrDan Apr 2016 #73
accurate HERVEPA Apr 2016 #77
and deserved. Qutzupalotl Apr 2016 #81
^^this^^ floppyboo Apr 2016 #86
and this coming from the guy who claims a 10 minute speech sandwiched between a discussion and a DrDan Apr 2016 #99
Read it again!!! floppyboo Apr 2016 #102
lol DrDan Apr 2016 #103
Yes, laughing at your mistakes is good! I think the Dalai Lama agrees too! floppyboo Apr 2016 #104
it's much too entertaining reading your delusions to take a break DrDan Apr 2016 #105
Guess we're going to just have to wait and see how this plays out. Excited? I am!!! nt floppyboo Apr 2016 #106
I know you are . . . DrDan Apr 2016 #107
response from 'the guy' floppyboo Apr 2016 #111
Like Santana at Woodstock, daytime gigs can set the tone for the whole show. Octafish Apr 2016 #126
Be nice! It would be UNFAIR to invite someone with zero credibility on the topics. arcane1 Apr 2016 #31
Like Greek to me. Octafish Apr 2016 #123
It's about the idolatry of money noiretextatique Apr 2016 #52
Bernie speaking on the idolatry of money while... tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #108
That explains the furious spinning eom noiretextatique Apr 2016 #118
Hey! It's never too late to invest your portfolio with Phil at UBS Wealth Management. Octafish Apr 2016 #124
this just makes you guys look petty. is that really the look you are going for? nt restorefreedom Apr 2016 #90
the reaction of your side in trying to spin this as important is priceless DrDan Apr 2016 #92
its not the be all end all. but its also not meaningless. restorefreedom Apr 2016 #93
I think it is quite an honor - even just the invite is an honor DrDan Apr 2016 #95
then maybe we should just all move on restorefreedom Apr 2016 #97
Relax, Hillary can speak at Goldman Sachs and promise them amnesty when she is president Zira Apr 2016 #100
just helping out the downticket candidates . . . at least one Dem candidate is willing to do that DrDan Apr 2016 #101
Hillary is spreading millions of corporate cash in attempt to corrupt and buy Democratic Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #109
I guess rationalizing the large difference in SDs is to be expected DrDan Apr 2016 #110
Here's a link. I'm sorry for assuming everyone knew! floppyboo Apr 2016 #3
Thanks for the link. MuseRider Apr 2016 #13
Oh, the hand-wringing this will cause the HRC supporters here. Fawke Em Apr 2016 #9
What's your source for him being the headline speaker, and that the evening geek tragedy Apr 2016 #18
check link at #3 nt floppyboo Apr 2016 #21
it doesn't say he's the headline speaker, or that any part of the evening geek tragedy Apr 2016 #23
of course not . . . and for good reason DrDan Apr 2016 #32
The responses aren't to his remarks LisaM Apr 2016 #69
I'm so proud of our Bernie!!! azmom Apr 2016 #35
A U.S. Senator invited to speak at a global conference. We should ALL be proud. senz Apr 2016 #36
+1! merrily Apr 2016 #42
Bernie pretended to be about economic justice to attend this. Shame! merrily Apr 2016 #39
His 40+ year ruse finally paid off. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #56
And it's only costing him 3 days plus jet lag during a campaign that is crucial to him personally. merrily Apr 2016 #71
Where's Bernies long-form certified tax return??? Galavanting to Europe, can't produce his returns! CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #113
No, no and...no brooklynite Apr 2016 #40
"coffee break" gets more time than Bernie Sanders does nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #68
Do you know how long it takes to make a good espresso? brooklynite Apr 2016 #72
"Locally Brewed Espresso Headlines Vatican Conference!!" nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #74
Sure wish Hillary had the ethical standing to speak on the idolatry of money Android3.14 Apr 2016 #129
but but but DetroitSocialist83 Apr 2016 #41
Sanders is so low. He gives his fees to charity, but he charges a very low fee. merrily Apr 2016 #43
Beautifully said. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #58
What an impressive group of global thinkers. I think Bernie is going to have a great time Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #48
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #53
You must be soooo dizzy! n/t Lucinda Apr 2016 #54
Can Hillary get an endorsement from the Vatican? Nope, don't think so, she can't do it. CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #61
Don't crush the lies and dreams of the 1% with such things. mmonk Apr 2016 #60
Wow - look at all the petty people. n/t dragonfly301 Apr 2016 #63
what people? shanti Apr 2016 #116
This will put the RW Third Way DLC DNC smear-machine cabal in to overdrive Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #83
Quite an overstatement you've made there. MineralMan Apr 2016 #85
No - again, read the OP - I said Headliner for 1st day and never mentioned Keynote. floppyboo Apr 2016 #88
He's not headlining the first day, either. MineralMan Apr 2016 #91
The responding speakers are identified as 'responding'. floppyboo Apr 2016 #94
Yeah, but the Pope didn't invite him....n/t pantsonfire Apr 2016 #112
Cause Birdiebro said so?!?! :rolleyes:@FolkJustMakingShitUp uponit7771 Apr 2016 #117
A 10 minute slot right before coffee time is not "headlining" Tarc Apr 2016 #119
The number one rule from Camp Pinocchio is don't tell a little lie, go BIG. itsrobert Apr 2016 #120
Way to go!! Enjoy your trip...maybe take a few extra days for a second honeymoon? nt anotherproletariat Apr 2016 #121
yes sure drray23 Apr 2016 #130
Eat your pride, certain supporters of the candidate whose invitation Francis rejected. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #135

Response to floppyboo (Original post)

Nanjeanne

(4,961 posts)
75. Beg to be invited is your delusion. Invited is fact. Expressing interest in global povery is
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:40 PM
Apr 2016

a good thing.

See the difference?

enid602

(8,620 posts)
98. trade
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:26 PM
Apr 2016

Yeah, he wants to eliminate global povertyy by eliminating global trade. Only in Bernieworld.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
114. Jeffrey Sachs, who was invited earlier, WANTED Bernie to be invited.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 07:09 PM
Apr 2016

No one begged.

Maybe you should read up on him: http://jeffsachs.org/

But, he doesn't share the corporatist world view of your candidate, so he might scare you.

Boo!


floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
12. Imagine your going to see a Rock show (okay, not Springsteen)
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:52 PM
Apr 2016

and you sit through a couple of opening acts, for say, 1 1/2 hours, or you skip this part altogether, and then after a refreshment and all the anticipation, you get the head liner.

Maybe you've never been out...

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
5. YES!!! He's the closing speaker! Check the schedule.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:47 PM
Apr 2016

Maybe you don't understand the significant difference between speaker and respondent and following discussion.
As a quick analogy, it's like when Obama holds a press release, then the press dude gets up to field some questions on what Obama said. Does that make sense to you?

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
19. How long is Hillary's time slot?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:56 PM
Apr 2016

For days you guys claimed he wouldn't be involved in any meaningful way. What changed?

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
128. Oh, Please. What is the longest speaking slot? 15 minutes.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:55 PM
Apr 2016

I'm really taken aback when I notice how most posts from supporters of Hillary Clinton are slams at Bernie Sanders over trivial things. I would have thought that Hillary Clinton supporters would be posting positive discussion points about the policies that Clinton is advancing or supports. What are those policies?

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
131. just pointing this out in the context of the OP - that this is a headline speech
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 02:56 AM
Apr 2016

but I think there were some 30 minute speakers - not going to look it up

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
115. Actually, it's a $350,000 plate dinner with the Clooneys.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 07:11 PM
Apr 2016

But, the point is still the same.

Rich people who don't want to pay taxes.

Response to DrDan (Reply #8)

Joob

(1,065 posts)
132. You're not glad a candidate for the first time in history of the US was invited to speak about
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:05 AM
Apr 2016

morality at the vatican? To the world. You'reon the wrong side of history.

brooklynite

(94,600 posts)
50. The "2nd response" is a scheduled speech...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:20 PM
Apr 2016

...and was schedule in the program before the Sanders speech was shoehorned in.

brooklynite

(94,600 posts)
78. Here's the schedule as it appeared on Saturday.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:42 PM
Apr 2016
Programme

FRIDAY 15 APRIL 2016
MORNING
9:00 Word of Welcome
PASS President Professor Margaret Archer and Professor Daniel Finn

9:15 New Challenges and New Concerns since “Centesimus Annus” H.Em. Cardinal Oscar Andrés Rodríguez Maradiaga

10:00 Paper to be discussed: Changes in the World Economy Since 1981 Author: Professor Jeffrey Sachs
The fall of the Soviet Union was the major economic backdrop of Centesimus annus. Much has occurred economically since. What are the most salient changes in global economic life and how well does the economic insight of Centesimus annus illuminate those changes? What do recent economic crises and recent changes in economic thinking suggest for the near future of economic life?

10:30 Session #1: first respondent Professor Javier Iguíñiz

10:45 Discussion

11:00 Coffee Break

11:30 Session #2: second respondent Professor Stefano Zamagni

11:45 Discussion

12:00 General Discussion

13:15 Lunch

AFTERNOON
15:00 Paper to be discussed: Changes in the World Political Situation Since 1981 Author: President Rafael Correa
The fall of the Soviet Union and the democratization of Eastern Europe was the major political backdrop of Centesimus annus. What is the global political situation today and which elements require greater attention by both the international community and by Catholic social teaching?

15:30 Session #3: first respondent Professor Rocco Buttiglione

15:45 Discussion

16:00 Coffee Break

16:30 Session #4: second respondent Professor Hsin-Chi Kuan

16:45 Discussion

17:00 General Discussion

19:15 Dinner


They basically added a speech at 4 PM and pushed everything 15 minutes later. Less time to dress for dinner.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
134. You were bitching that he was not on the program
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:11 AM
Apr 2016

so he must be lying about speaking at the conference.

Now you are bitching about where he is on the program and how long his speech will be.

You guys are never happy unless you can bitch about Bernie.

Now...what is going to happen if he ends up meeting the Pope?

Are you all going to find a way to bitch about that too...the somehow he rudely forced himself on the Pope, who was trying to go to the bathroom or something.

I think your behavior about this is pretty sad.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
84. Looks like they changed alot! Wonder when that sched came out originally.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:45 PM
Apr 2016

No Sachs, no Correa. What a difference a day makes!

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
38. coveted last speaker of the day, I think you meant.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:06 PM
Apr 2016

Coffee break, which will undoubtedly be a press frenzy!

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
45. I'll try another analogy you might understand:
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:10 PM
Apr 2016

Superbowl - last quarter - team wins!!! Then all the commentary.

Or are you really not understanding this at all?

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
47. You realize there's a whole other day to the conference, right? And also that there's another
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:12 PM
Apr 2016

speaker after Bernie on the first day, right after the coffee break that they cut 10 minutes off of to slip Bernie a slot.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
57. Here's the latest link I have. Is there another? Because on this, there are no further speakers.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:26 PM
Apr 2016
http://www.pass.va/content/dam/scienzesociali/booklet/centesimus_annus.pdf

I'm happy to correct if I am wrong. A respondent is not a speaker. They are by definition 'responding'. Get back to me when you've checked out your dictionary.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
70. Umm, yeah, a respondent is a speaker.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:34 PM
Apr 2016

Here's a clue, since you don't seem to be familiar with conferences. If they give you the closing remarks slot, they don't schedule a respondent to speak after you, no do they limit you to 10 minutes slipped in before a coffee break. And they definitely don't schedule a whole other day of conference after you speak.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
76. nice try
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:40 PM
Apr 2016

A respondent, at such an event as this, will stick to remark 'responding' to the speaker. And as far as my experience goes, I've produced many events. So, piss off now. You will be my first hide!!!

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
80. In other words, a respondent speaks. What's even more funny is that they slipped
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:43 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie in between two respondents on the same topic. His 10-minute slot is the conference equivalent of a janitor's closet.

oasis

(49,389 posts)
87. They're giving Bernie a 5 min. introduction with circling doves
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:54 PM
Apr 2016

before he speaks. That's part of his 15 minute allotment.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
37. Or maybe going to the Bay Area to peddle influence at a couple $353K /plate glam dinners.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
Apr 2016

Gotta keep the $$$ flowing!
Boats are expensive!

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
44. helping the downticket candidates . . . what has your candidate done to help them
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:09 PM
Apr 2016

should he beat these incredible odds and get to the WH, what are the chances of any party support for his promised initiatives considering the support he has so far given them?

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
46. Wow, you're throwing in every talking point Clinton has ever had, all in one thread.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:10 PM
Apr 2016

This topic must really get to you

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
86. ^^this^^
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:50 PM
Apr 2016

I am new to ignore. why am I still seeing this person's posts? Maybe I should un-ignore. Endless entertainment!

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
99. and this coming from the guy who claims a 10 minute speech sandwiched between a discussion and a
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:38 PM
Apr 2016

coffee break is the day's headliner

priceless

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
102. Read it again!!!
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 04:05 PM
Apr 2016

LUNCH
3 pm - Paper by Rafael Correa - President of Ecuador (will he present it? Not clear)
3:30 - respondent
3:45 - discuss
4 pm - Speaker - Senator Sanders

4:10 - break

4:45 - respondent
5 pm - discussion

7:30 - dinner

And so, Sanders is the closing speaker. Yes, others will quote/unquote 'speak' afterwards, and you can be sure the international press will make up the majority of those voices!

Think of it - A whole 45 minutes for everyone to get their responses to Sanders together! Huuuuuge!

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
104. Yes, laughing at your mistakes is good! I think the Dalai Lama agrees too!
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 04:09 PM
Apr 2016

or are you still selectively reading? Anyways, you should be happy! Go for a walk, dig in the earth or something nt

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
111. response from 'the guy'
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 05:09 PM
Apr 2016

would you be kinder if you knew I was a 'gal'?

Should I cry sexism? No, silly, I would never do that. It's all getting rather ridiculous around here. Going for that therapeutic walk in the woods now. see you later.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
126. Like Santana at Woodstock, daytime gigs can set the tone for the whole show.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:47 PM
Apr 2016


If Hillary's our nominee, she'll have a lot of chances to visit Europe as President.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
123. Like Greek to me.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:43 PM
Apr 2016

"Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws." -- Plato (c.427 - 347 BC)

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
108. Bernie speaking on the idolatry of money while...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 04:31 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary speaks at a 353k per plate "fundraising" dinner...

Oh the irony.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
124. Hey! It's never too late to invest your portfolio with Phil at UBS Wealth Management.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:44 PM
Apr 2016

After his exit from the US Senate, Phil Gramm found a job at Swiss bank UBS as vice chairman. He later brought in former President Bill Clinton to the Wealth Management team. What a coincidence, they are the two key figures in repealing Glass-Steagal. Since the New Deal it was the financial regulation that protected the US taxpayer from the Wall Street casino. Oh well, what are a few hundred million in speaking fees compared to a $16 trillion bailout among friends?



It's a Buy-Partisan Who's Who:

President William J. Clinton
President George W. Bush Heh heh heh.
Robert J. McCann
James Carville
John V. Miller
Paula D. Polito
Anthony Roth
Mike Ryan
John Savercool

SOURCE: http://financialservicesinc.ubs.com/revitalizingamerica/SenatorPhilGramm.html

One of my attorney chums doesn't like to see his name on any committees, event letterhead or political campaign literature. These folks, it seems to me, are past caring.

Some of why DUers and ALL voters should care about Phil Gramm.

Until the Panama Papers, the fact USA's Notell-6 news media corpse don't bring this up AT ALL should be of great concern to all who care about Democracy.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
92. the reaction of your side in trying to spin this as important is priceless
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:59 PM
Apr 2016

sorry to introduce reality into the fantasy

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
93. its not the be all end all. but its also not meaningless.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:02 PM
Apr 2016

why try and trash it? if its as unimportant or neutral as you all believe, then why not just let it play out? whats the harm?

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
95. I think it is quite an honor - even just the invite is an honor
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:04 PM
Apr 2016

but why the need for some to make it more than it is? No need to inflate it.

on edit - and I have said the same thing the past few days

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
97. then maybe we should just all move on
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:12 PM
Apr 2016

there will be a blurb afterwards, maybe a photo or two of him speaking. and then a helluva fight for new york.

personally, i would much rather be talking about hillarys relationship with wall street and why those transcripts have not been released, the loss of good union jobs due to nafta, and the corrupt campaign finance system rewarding those who do the masters bidding.

does that work for you? feel free to add your own fave issues


 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
100. Relax, Hillary can speak at Goldman Sachs and promise them amnesty when she is president
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:40 PM
Apr 2016

just like Obama has given them.

Then she can broker a few more arms deals like Algeria and Saudi Arabia - getting the US approval and a huge donation to the Clinton foundation just like she already did. Who knows we can arm all kinds of countries that the US wouldn't normally approve so Hillary can personally get richer.

Then she can have a 10k dinner and you can go see her speak there.

You wouldn't want her speaking at the Vatican. That's for the NON-WAR Mongers and profiteers of war.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
101. just helping out the downticket candidates . . . at least one Dem candidate is willing to do that
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:41 PM
Apr 2016

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
109. Hillary is spreading millions of corporate cash in attempt to corrupt and buy Democratic
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 04:46 PM
Apr 2016

politicians and their super delegate votes. Last I knew, buying votes is a fine example of corruption... as is money laundering (See DNC, 33 State Democratic Committees & the Hillary Victory Fund). How do you define corruption?

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
3. Here's a link. I'm sorry for assuming everyone knew!
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:44 PM
Apr 2016
http://www.pass.va/content/dam/scienzesociali/booklet/centesimus_annus.pdf

The Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences & Institute for Advanced Catholic Studies
Centesimus Annus - 25 Years Later


So happy for Goodness!!!

MuseRider

(34,111 posts)
13. Thanks for the link.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:53 PM
Apr 2016

I looked and looked on the list of "those also participating" and did not see his name! Freaked me out since yesterday I was told he was just an "also participating" so it was not a big deal. Whew! Speaker, lol. Sounds like a pretty big deal to me. 🖒

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
9. Oh, the hand-wringing this will cause the HRC supporters here.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:51 PM
Apr 2016
http://www.pass.va/content/dam/scienzesociali/booklet/centesimus_annus.pdf

BTW, if anyone starts checking flights again, I will forward this information to his Secret Service detail. I find it very unhealthy - and, frankly, downright scary - that people were trying to find out what plane he'll be on. I remember Wellstone and Brown.
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
18. What's your source for him being the headline speaker, and that the evening
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:54 PM
Apr 2016

events include a response to him?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
23. it doesn't say he's the headline speaker, or that any part of the evening
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:59 PM
Apr 2016

discussion will be a response to him.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
69. The responses aren't to his remarks
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:33 PM
Apr 2016

He's sandwiched in between a paper and the responses to that paper.

Surprised he's devoted so much time to a 25-year old initiative begun by a Pope with whom he can't possibly agreed with on many matters.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
71. And it's only costing him 3 days plus jet lag during a campaign that is crucial to him personally.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:37 PM
Apr 2016

Why, I oughtta.....

 

CentralCoaster

(1,163 posts)
113. Where's Bernies long-form certified tax return??? Galavanting to Europe, can't produce his returns!
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:11 PM
Apr 2016

And I mean the LONG FORM, not some scrappy photoshop job!



brooklynite

(94,600 posts)
40. No, no and...no
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:07 PM
Apr 2016

He's not the headliner, or keynoter

There's not "response to his comments", there's coffee followed by the previously scheduled second respondent to the "Change in the World Political Situation" paper

There's no discussion schedule for his speech, there's the previously scheduled discussion to the "Change in the World Political Situation" paper, followed by general discussion of the day's activities:

16:00 The Urgency of a Moral Economy: Reflections on the 25th Anniversary of Centesimus Annus
Senator Bernie Sanders
16:10 Coffee Break
16:45 Session #4: second respondent Professor Hsin-Chi Kuan
17:00 Discussion
17:15 General Discussion
19:30 Dinne
 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
129. Sure wish Hillary had the ethical standing to speak on the idolatry of money
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:00 PM
Apr 2016

Of course, then she wouldn't be Hillary "Can I give a speech for $200,000" Clinton.

 

DetroitSocialist83

(169 posts)
41. but but but
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:07 PM
Apr 2016

I thought he wasn't invited? If only they could have afforded Hillary's speaking fee. She could have told them about how the money changers in the temple were too big to fail!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
43. Sanders is so low. He gives his fees to charity, but he charges a very low fee.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:09 PM
Apr 2016

If he were a good person, he'd charge more so his gifts to charity would be larger.

There is simply no end to that man's evil, I tells ya! NONE!

Nanjeanne

(4,961 posts)
48. What an impressive group of global thinkers. I think Bernie is going to have a great time
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:16 PM
Apr 2016

meeting and talking with these participants. Dinner on Friday should be really stimulating!

Response to floppyboo (Original post)

 

CentralCoaster

(1,163 posts)
61. Can Hillary get an endorsement from the Vatican? Nope, don't think so, she can't do it.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:27 PM
Apr 2016

She doesn't mind racist jokes, however.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
85. Quite an overstatement you've made there.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:47 PM
Apr 2016

He's not the keynote speaker. He isn't even presenting one of the papers for the conference. He is a responding speaker, who has 10 minutes for his remarks.

The headliner for a conference is the keynote speaker, not a responding participant.

Truly, I think you have misunderstood the importance of his place on the conference agenda in a serious way.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
88. No - again, read the OP - I said Headliner for 1st day and never mentioned Keynote.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:55 PM
Apr 2016

Fear tends to conflate things. I've got some kickass brownies that may help you out. oops, but then you'd end up with a criminal record and your family would be fucked. Hill should decriminalize, don't you think? Or do you want to keep paying out of your nose for fancy pharma's? You need something...

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
91. He's not headlining the first day, either.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:57 PM
Apr 2016

He's an afternoon responding speaker.

As for your loaded brownie thing, thanks, but I'll pass. I gave up using the stuff in 1974, after being a daily toker. Your implication that I need some drug is insulting, actually. I wish you wouldn't do that.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
94. The responding speakers are identified as 'responding'.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:02 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie is not responding. He is giving a speech.

I am sorry I suggested you needed something. I guess we all need a little bit of something. When we devolve into semantics (guilty) its a good chance that the real point of the message is lost.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
119. A 10 minute slot right before coffee time is not "headlining"
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:22 PM
Apr 2016

My goodness, you lot get sillier by the second.

drray23

(7,634 posts)
130. yes sure
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:02 PM
Apr 2016

He is scheduled right before the coffee break. Its not headlining by any stretch of imagination. Not sure Bernie thought this through. He will spend 2 to 3 days flying there to give a 20 minute talk and fly back in the middle of a critical primary campaign.

The move was so transparent its not even guaranteed it will draw catholic voters. It may have the opposite effect. On top of that he is giving even more ammunitions to the gop by associating with evo morales and rafael correa, both pretty close to being dictators. He already had questionable associations with south american dictators in the past its not going to help. well played Bernie...

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
135. Eat your pride, certain supporters of the candidate whose invitation Francis rejected.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 05:37 AM
Apr 2016

Spinners and liers, the lot of you.

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