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NY State Assembly Bill A9661 (Original Post) NorthCarolina Apr 2016 OP
Oh snap! This could be YUGE.... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #1
Not a chance. They will agree with this as well. Every Democrat shares the same desire NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #2
Are you joking? GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #9
Yes, but making voting easier is a Core Democratic Party Value, so how could they NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #12
It wouldn't apply to this election dcbuckeye Apr 2016 #3
The text of the pdf says "effective immediately". nt NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #4
yes, but the deadline to register to vote was... dana_b Apr 2016 #21
independents elfudge35 Apr 2016 #31
oh! derp! dana_b Apr 2016 #33
The deadline to register if you've never voted before was March 25th Rhiannon12866 Apr 2016 #39
yes, that makes sense and I'm afraid of that too dana_b Apr 2016 #40
I did find it irritating when I found out that the March 25th deadline Rhiannon12866 Apr 2016 #43
It will. Nt Else You Are Mad Apr 2016 #6
If that happens... Else You Are Mad Apr 2016 #5
K N R-ed Faux pas Apr 2016 #7
I saw this on my twitter feed this morning. DookDook Apr 2016 #8
Thanks for taking action! nt NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #14
yes just yes azurnoir Apr 2016 #10
Could that possibly go into effect for this primary? Ash_F Apr 2016 #11
This one is "people powered" though. Might make a difference. NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #13
It would have to be on the calendar for Wednesday. herding cats Apr 2016 #35
This is for the next election cycle, not this one Tarc Apr 2016 #15
Do you disagree with the provisions of this bill? Can you explain whats wrong in promoting it? NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #17
I'm all for same-day registration, that's what we have here in NH Tarc Apr 2016 #18
Last minute saves, ha ha. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #19
I'm sorry, this is 2016, not 1916 Tarc Apr 2016 #23
That is a disgusting assertion. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #27
So far, the A-A and the Latino vote has been solidly against Sanders Tarc Apr 2016 #29
Past results do not guarantee future returns. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #37
The Terri Schiavo bill went from introduced to law in just 1 day jfern Apr 2016 #41
Yes, because the FL legislature was dominated by hardcorereligious fundies w/ Jebby eager to sign Tarc Apr 2016 #44
This was the feds jfern Apr 2016 #45
That was a bit of trickery as well, and I'm not sure how it was even possible Tarc Apr 2016 #46
I am not for changing this state to an open primary. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #16
Very cute that you think it's "yours" JackRiddler Apr 2016 #20
Closed primaries are not rigged. It is a party primary. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #22
Your we is that of the team. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #28
Did you miss the deadline? hrmjustin Apr 2016 #30
Did you make it to Hillary's rally at Sunset today? NWCorona Apr 2016 #24
No but i was outside and we signed up 40 new volunteers. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #25
Well that's good NWCorona Apr 2016 #26
Since it's still in committee, I doubt seriously that MineralMan Apr 2016 #32
Great - explain how this passes the (Republican) State Senate brooklynite Apr 2016 #34
No Chance that would be in place to help this time Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #36
If it passes at the last minute with no way for the poll workers to handle influx of voters... ReasonableToo Apr 2016 #38
More people voting will be more voter suppression? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! jfern Apr 2016 #42
 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
1. Oh snap! This could be YUGE....
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:56 PM
Apr 2016

If this passes I expect people here will go apoplectic. If you thought PopeGate was bad.... woooo that would be a blip on the radar compared to this.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
2. Not a chance. They will agree with this as well. Every Democrat shares the same desire
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:57 PM
Apr 2016

to allow as many citizens as possible to exercise their right to vote.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
9. Are you joking?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:06 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary supporters gloat about and celebrate when a closed primary comes up because they think Sanders can't win closed primaries and they think independents are interfering with their party

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
12. Yes, but making voting easier is a Core Democratic Party Value, so how could they
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:09 PM
Apr 2016

possibly be against something like this and still consider themselves Democrats?

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
21. yes, but the deadline to register to vote was...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:25 PM
Apr 2016

when exactly? Sometime in March? So even if it passes and is "effective immediately", it still won't affect this election unfortunately.

elfudge35

(1 post)
31. independents
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:35 PM
Apr 2016

it would allow anybody registered as an independent or Republican to vote in the Democratic primary, party affiliations for those people had to be changed by October in order to vote in the Democratic primary, it would still have a big effect on the primary

Rhiannon12866

(205,552 posts)
39. The deadline to register if you've never voted before was March 25th
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:59 AM
Apr 2016

But if you're already registered as a Republican or Independent and want to switch to Democratic, the deadline was last October 9th. The speculation is that this could hurt Bernie since he has support from a lot of Independents and those Republicans who hate Trump. But not everyone had settled on a candidate as of last year and New York is a closed primary.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
40. yes, that makes sense and I'm afraid of that too
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 02:59 AM
Apr 2016

Hopefully this bill passes asap and is effective asap.

Rhiannon12866

(205,552 posts)
43. I did find it irritating when I found out that the March 25th deadline
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:12 AM
Apr 2016

Was only for those who had never voted before. I annoyed a friend of mine who had never bothered to vote (told her since she's female and gay that it's important) until she registered. She registered as a Democrat and is planning to vote for Bernie. But those who have always voted are out of luck unless they were already registered as Democrats - or had thought ahead in time to re-register last year.

DookDook

(166 posts)
8. I saw this on my twitter feed this morning.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:04 PM
Apr 2016

After I saw it I went to the link and signed up, voted and retweeted the link.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
13. This one is "people powered" though. Might make a difference.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:10 PM
Apr 2016

Also, the text of the pdf says "effective immediately".

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
35. It would have to be on the calendar for Wednesday.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 04:57 PM
Apr 2016

That's the last day the assembly meets this month. At it is now, it's still in committee where it's been since March 24th.

There's no way this can make it to debate by the Senate in the next few business days. Let alone be passed and signed in time.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
15. This is for the next election cycle, not this one
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:11 PM
Apr 2016

Sorry Bernsters, no 11th-hour miracle saves are coming here.

The bill has only been referred to the Election committee, it hasn't even moved out to the floor yet. If it passed both of those, it'd have to wait for the Senate to work on their version, reconcile any differences, then off for the governor's signature.

That isn't going to happen by the 19th, this is Civics 101 here, legislation does not travel that fast.

And we're not even getting into the supremely unethical move to change an election on the eve of actually holding it. You would give poll workers only days to work out a new process of verifying these newly-eligible voters?

I just wonder at what plane of reality the Sanders Camp exists on at times...

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
17. Do you disagree with the provisions of this bill? Can you explain whats wrong in promoting it?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:13 PM
Apr 2016

Seems like something ALL Democrats should get behind IMO.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
18. I'm all for same-day registration, that's what we have here in NH
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:15 PM
Apr 2016

But you have to be in the party to pick the party's nominee, that should be petty fundamental.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
19. Last minute saves, ha ha.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:21 PM
Apr 2016

It's more a question of whether Sanders wins 53-47 or, with this bill, 62-38.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
23. I'm sorry, this is 2016, not 1916
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:26 PM
Apr 2016

New York is a wee bit more multicultural now. If he hits 45% it will be a moral victory, and he's still be essentially mathematically eliminated from the race.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
27. That is a disgusting assertion.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:07 PM
Apr 2016

So you think Hillary Clinton owns everyone who isn't white, do you? Well she and her clown husband and clown team have been working hard to alienate them. And Sanders to speak to them.

That's right, New York is extremely multicultural and its many cultures among the registered Democrats (and beyond, in November) will be voting in the majority for Sanders.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
29. So far, the A-A and the Latino vote has been solidly against Sanders
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:09 PM
Apr 2016

Particularly in Texas and Florida, where she walloped him at a 70% rate in the Latino vote.

Why is that?

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
37. Past results do not guarantee future returns.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:06 PM
Apr 2016

People are not walking identity categories who react like pavlov's dogs presented with stimuli. They can think for themselves, and they vary even within these identity categories.

In any case, you are probably aware that you are playing fast and loose with the Latinos especially. There's a reason you're talking Texas and Florida, because that's completely untrue in the rest of the country. And certainly in New York - I don't think you have any idea what's coming there.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
44. Yes, because the FL legislature was dominated by hardcorereligious fundies w/ Jebby eager to sign
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:22 AM
Apr 2016

That was a unique situation, and the law was ultimately voided as unconstitutional.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
46. That was a bit of trickery as well, and I'm not sure how it was even possible
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 06:23 PM
Apr 2016

The Senate passed it at 3-0 on a goddamned Sunday afternoon when the other 97 weren't even there.

That wa sa piec of political scumbaggery which I hope is prohibited form now on.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
20. Very cute that you think it's "yours"
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:23 PM
Apr 2016

Everyone is affected by the rigged system - which is rigged fifty different ways, one for every state. It's a vast joke, the whole thing, no matter who's gaining from it.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
22. Closed primaries are not rigged. It is a party primary.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:26 PM
Apr 2016

You are warned when you registered that you can't vote in a primary.


And if you actually read what I wrote you would see I wrote our.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
32. Since it's still in committee, I doubt seriously that
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:36 PM
Apr 2016

it could take effect before the primary. In fact, that seems impossible to me. It might not even pass and might not be signed by the Governor if it did.

I wouldn't count on this.

ReasonableToo

(505 posts)
38. If it passes at the last minute with no way for the poll workers to handle influx of voters...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:39 PM
Apr 2016

...and no procedures, we get another state with crazy long lines and confusion. Registered Dems will be blocked by independents wanting to vote. More voter suppression. Lovely.



By any means necessary.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
42. More people voting will be more voter suppression? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:10 AM
Apr 2016
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