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538's latest re-elect odds: 68.1% (Original Post) regnaD kciN Oct 2012 OP
So Obama went down a couple points today TroyD Oct 2012 #1
I'll take it teabaggersarestupid Oct 2012 #5
That makes no sense. You are chasing Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #24
Dems do NOT have amnesia.. ejbr Oct 2012 #28
what, it's down again? aletier_v Oct 2012 #2
Probably the national polls... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #21
These were conducted before the last debate, right? FVZA_Colonel Oct 2012 #22
Ouch, I just checked it recently and it was still 70.0% DMacTX Oct 2012 #3
I know, a two-point drop is devastating. Drunken Irishman Oct 2012 #4
LOL Sugarcoated Oct 2012 #8
Not devastating but after the Intrade fiasco aletier_v Oct 2012 #9
Nate Silver is gaming Obama? Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #23
I really wish there was a way to filter out certain words on DU... Drunken Irishman Oct 2012 #6
Jesus Christ, yes. Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #25
Silver wrote about volatility recently Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #7
Nate said that Intrade is an outlier, btw TroyD Oct 2012 #10
Things will... ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #11
There was one poll that was posted earlier TIPP (or whatever it is called) helpisontheway Oct 2012 #12
That's the November 6th Forecast...if you change it to the Nowcast politicaljack78 Oct 2012 #13
Anybody know what he changes... DrToast Oct 2012 #14
I'm not certain but I have got to get to bed for work tomorrow. check out the politicaljack78 Oct 2012 #17
Thank you for posting that info. nt helpisontheway Oct 2012 #15
It's my pleasure. Have an awesome night. n/t politicaljack78 Oct 2012 #18
70.6% in the now cast BainsBane Oct 2012 #16
I think it's lower... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #19
I think, but can't check due to being over my 10 articles dsc Oct 2012 #20
There are ways around the limit. Ace Rothstein Oct 2012 #27
If you follow polls Nate ain't sayin a damn thing Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #26

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
1. So Obama went down a couple points today
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:11 AM
Oct 2012

This is why this thing is not in the bag yet.

It's a close race.

Take nothing for granted and watch out for Republican vote theft at all times.

 
5. I'll take it
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:13 AM
Oct 2012

The polling was not so hot today. The SurveyUSA Ohio poll probably saved the forecast from going to something like 65, 66%. I also think the percentage went down a little because of the stock market selloff. 68.1% is still better than 2/3.

Maximumnegro

(1,134 posts)
24. That makes no sense. You are chasing
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:45 AM
Oct 2012

your own tail. Nate's numbers are based on the polls you spend time slapping on the board thread after thread, so why then look at Nate and be surprised. THis makes no sense why people are doing this. Like he's going to tell you something you don't already know.

And it IS in the bag. I swear a lot of Dems have amnesia: forget everything you read from inside the campaign that's hinting at the real state of the race, only to get immediately distracted by polls and then get uncertain again until the next piece of inside info and...

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
21. Probably the national polls...
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:25 AM
Oct 2012

Rasmussen and PPP both showed a two-point drop, a couple of others that were in Obama's favor tightened, and he didn't really gain in any. As I wrote before, Sam Wang at PEC, whose model uses only state, not national, polls, showed no drop yesterday.

DMacTX

(301 posts)
3. Ouch, I just checked it recently and it was still 70.0%
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:12 AM
Oct 2012

I was just going to bed, all relaxed, now I wish i hadn't logged back into DU.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
6. I really wish there was a way to filter out certain words on DU...
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:13 AM
Oct 2012

I'd totally avoid "Nate Silver" and "538".

 

Floyd_Gondolli

(1,277 posts)
7. Silver wrote about volatility recently
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:16 AM
Oct 2012

For those that didn't see it I'd recommend reading it. I don't classify this drop as anything but noise, however. Stiill it's worth a read as we head into the final stretch.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
10. Nate said that Intrade is an outlier, btw
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:20 AM
Oct 2012

It has lower numbers for Obama than most of the other betting markets.

But he said it is still a decent predictor overall.

helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
12. There was one poll that was posted earlier TIPP (or whatever it is called)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:21 AM
Oct 2012

that showed the President dropping but Romney gaining. They said Romney was gaining with working class and another group. I don't think Nate uses that one is his model though.

politicaljack78

(312 posts)
13. That's the November 6th Forecast...if you change it to the Nowcast
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:23 AM
Oct 2012

That has the President at 70.6% vs. 29.4% for Romnesia.

politicaljack78

(312 posts)
17. I'm not certain but I have got to get to bed for work tomorrow. check out the
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:36 AM
Oct 2012

methodology link or email the guy, I'm sure he'd love to explain it to you.
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/methodology/

nrsilver@gmail.com

BainsBane

(53,072 posts)
16. 70.6% in the now cast
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:34 AM
Oct 2012

I don't think the President has gone down in Nate's odds. The Nov. 6 cast is always slightly lower, I'm guessing because Silver accounts a bit for unforeseen events.

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
19. I think it's lower...
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:43 AM
Oct 2012

...because Nate assumes that polls always tighten over the closing weeks of a campaign. Of course, if that closing already took place (and was misinterpreted as part of the "first debate bounce&quot , it might not happen after all.

Personally, I was expecting a drop in the odds after some of the lousy national polls this morning. I note that Sam Wang, whose system considers only state polling, held steady for the day.

dsc

(52,166 posts)
20. I think, but can't check due to being over my 10 articles
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:45 AM
Oct 2012

that the now cast is poll only and the Nov 6 cast includes lots of things such as the stock market. The market went down today, fairly far, so that might explain a drop in the Nov 6 cast.

Ace Rothstein

(3,184 posts)
27. There are ways around the limit.
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:25 AM
Oct 2012

Googling the title of the article is one way that has worked for me.

Maximumnegro

(1,134 posts)
26. If you follow polls Nate ain't sayin a damn thing
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:50 AM
Oct 2012

you don't already know. He doesn't have any special insight. If the polls average out a little lower today then guess what, his numbers will be lower. Magic I know.

Why is it people all of a sudden forget or ignore all the hints from the campaign and inside sources and get distracted by these polls and pollwatchers is beyond me. The campaign has come out multiple times saying the polls are not capturing what they are seeing on the ground and the early votes and inside info like Cook Report back it up.

Guess what. OH + NV = Game over for Romney

Guess what two states Obama has a lock on right now.

Nate isn't going to tell you that.

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