2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWOW. A "CP Time" joke? What kind of judgement led her to participate in that?
Speaks for itself.
Seriously. What kind of judgement?
Oh. That kind.
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)Seems to me she mostly tried to rescue him from swallowing his own foot.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)rachacha
(173 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)on that joke if he felt it was offensive.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)And not in good taste.
When was this?
rachacha
(173 posts)So I expect damage control is in full swing and apologies are forthcoming.
In the meantime, it's interesting to get Hillary supporters' views on whether it was in good taste.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)She's already being criticized for, um, just being there, or something.
I'm a Bernie supporter -- I've even been kicked out of the Hillary Group,
but some of this shit is SO effing ridiculous.
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)Thanks for letting me know someone else here is sick of the toxic nonsense.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)Good one.
DebDoo
(319 posts)WDIM
(1,662 posts)rachacha
(173 posts)JudyM
(29,251 posts)down" by Clinton as misunderstanding what Debalsio "really" meant.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Thus, she's guilty through association.
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)She's disqualified already for other reasons, but this is just one more bad judgement call on her part.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)We'll disqualify her for failing to clear a joke beforehand.
--- The indisputable gage of fitness for office.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Or do you really think POC really go around dressed like "lawn jockeys?"
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)Amazing, innit?
grntuscarora
(1,249 posts)it rarely works out well.
Euphoria
(448 posts)DebDoo
(319 posts)GRATEFULLY vote for; give money, blood, sweat, gasoline, voice for this
expect nothing in return
yell at the guys with the red colored jerseys
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Then Bernie must be a very weak candidate.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Does it make you feel strong to call someone else weak?
rachacha
(173 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)popular votes
pledged delegates
total delegates
those are the relevant metrics, and he's losing all three
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)And he has already won the ethics race by a mile!
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)truedelphi
(32,324 posts)You, Live and learn.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Nice to see you L&L.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)but I do check in and always appreciate (and share) your posts.
senz
(11,945 posts)But .. you "share" my posts? Oh noes, I better start cleaning them up.
(Do you want me to say something nice about you in them?)
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Can you flesh that one out for me a little more?
Thank you in advance.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)at the debate. It will work wonderfully for him.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)will share the outrage here.
Everyone else will continue to fail to care.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)This has nothing to do with Bernie and everything to do with Hillary's poor judgement.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)And he's the one who keeps calling Bernie supporters Trump Humpers and Bernie Bros.
And he pretended to be a Bernie supporter? Yikes!
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)From the weather vane community.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Bernie supporters for being rude. It was... weird.
I never understand the mentality of these Hillary supporters. The steps they take to "support" their candidate is deeply disturbing. And I'm sure every one of them would be disgusted by their own actions if they saw a Republican doing the same thing. Or a Bernie supporter for that matter, but my point is really that they are doing what Republicans do because apparently IOKIYSHRC.
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grossproffit
(5,591 posts)This forum is probably his homepage.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)rachacha
(173 posts)(because many of them don't like her either) or you're sexist (because some sexist people also don't like Hillary).
Baseless ad-hominem "guilt by association" charges do nothing to promote actual dialog here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy#Guilt_by_association_as_an_ad_hominem_fallacy
It's kind of sad we can't rise above that.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Go Vols
(5,902 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)anymore.
Freeing isn't it? Better for your health too, suppressing all that anger isn't good for you.
.
rachacha
(173 posts)Both for Hillary and Bill.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)and publicly scold BdB for being a racist.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)rachacha
(173 posts)Context does matter, and whether BdB and Hillary own up and apologize matters, too.
Immediately calling someone a racist, or sexist, or anything-ist is a knee-jerk reaction, and I think Sanders puts more thought than that into what he says.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)really, really attacking BdB. Which is not gonna fly in NYC.
But, desperate times call for desperate measures
DebDoo
(319 posts)But nice try at deflection. Try to stay on topic
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)You really can't attack her without attacking him.
Good luck with that.
CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)Kinda makes me giggle.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)tralala
(239 posts)ANd so on.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)NYC voters will cut BdB a lot of slack on this one.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts).... about racist jokes being in poor taste.
CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)Maybe next time....
Oh, and right back at you with your Hillary supporter slur!
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)I actually have a lot of respect for de Blasio although it has nothing to do with his family being bi-racial (what does that have to do with anything?) but that does not excuse his poor judgement in doing this awful skit.
By the way, what is your excuse for Hillary doing it? Oh, I know, some of her supporters are black so that makes it okay?
You guys would lose more credibility everyday if you had any to begin with.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)TheSarcastinator
(854 posts)Do you have gay friends too?
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)DeBlasio's family was discussed at length after Eric Garner's murder. Yuck it up, because DeBlasio has black friends wife.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)her campaign doesnt "get" the west coast at all.
CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)But again, in my experience a lot of the Hill Folk appear to have never been out of manhattan (or the beltway) and seem to only be dimly aware that there are a few thousand miles of united states out here.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)chascarrillo
(3,897 posts)He appointed someone with absurdly racist policies as NYC's top cop. Is there any excuse for that?
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)"The CP stands for Corrupt Politician."
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)She winced visibly when he did it.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)didn't appreciate it as much as the campaign hoped.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)Desert805
(392 posts)In the United States, is that true?
I've been to the Jewish ghetto in Venice, so you don't have to type European history at me. Not being snarky, just saving you the trouble.
Was his statement incorrect? Please educate me.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)When I was a kid she never tired of telling me that. The thing is most Jews don't live in shetls (ghettos) and neither do most African Americans.
Desert805
(392 posts)Or am I confused?
braddy
(3,585 posts)BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)Response to braddy (Reply #71)
CompanyFirstSergeant This message was self-deleted by its author.
rachacha
(173 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)Black people are never on time.
It's really bad judgment in light of her getting heat over calling black people superpredators.
braddy
(3,585 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)braddy
(3,585 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)Should have known better than to participate in this racist crap. CP time, really? Not funny, not funny at all.
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)i.e. we're such cool white people that we even know your inside jokes. Based on the audience reaction it went over like a lead balloon.
azmom
(5,208 posts)have done that.
Proceed with your racist jokes, secretary Clinton.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Mayor DiBlasio's black wife how OUTRAGED she should be.
azmom
(5,208 posts)Should not be either? That does not make any sense. Was the joke about her in particular.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)It's the whitesplaining that I'm seeing here that I find incredibly offensive. I do feel the need to point out she didn't make the joke. Mayor DiBlasio did.
azmom
(5,208 posts)She was a willing participant and it showed bad judgment on her part.
I don't think you have to be black to see that.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)if Mayor DiBlasio and his black wife weren't offended, why should she be. I do love how it took 2 days for me to figure out she didn't even make the joke - Mayor DiBlasio did. That's how dishonest the Bernie people are. I guess calling him a racist doesn't fit their agenda. As for me? I've heard that type of joke before - every time I go to Greece and show up anywhere on time.
George II
(67,782 posts)GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)Pathetic...
George II
(67,782 posts)Those that don't have a sense of humor whine about what others joke about.
PS - I thought you said the other day you put me on ignore.
Response to George II (Reply #78)
CompanyFirstSergeant This message was self-deleted by its author.
George II
(67,782 posts)....and we also joke about me being a skinny old bald guy.
Aren't there more important things going on in this country to complain about?
rachacha
(173 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)rachacha
(173 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Have you watched any of those?
Obama jokingly insulting Trump, McCain, Boehner, etc.?
rachacha
(173 posts)chascarrillo
(3,897 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)MerryBlooms
(11,770 posts)doc03
(35,349 posts)all three were aware of it and if you hadn't noticed the one person appeared to be of the black
race. I had to Google it never heard of CP time before. The second one I have no idea what that was about.
ecstatic
(32,712 posts)Just like Bernie, you rant about certain topics without having any clue of what you're talking about. Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound? Then again, who is your target audience for this latest "outrage?" Certainly not people of color, as that phrase is used quite often. And yes, certain people get a pass. Hint: NOT BernieBros. Deal with it!
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)ecstatic
(32,712 posts)I'm not sure if that was meant to be sarcasm, but this is kind of what my previous post referred to--
I'd have no problem if the pope were to endorse Bernie. I do have a problem with someone lying about it, as that's sleazy and desperate. Kim Davis had the pope's ear, ffs. Does that mean he endorsed her reelection?
rachacha
(173 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)...white people in IA and NH cant say shit to me about racial tone deafness.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Exhibit #1.
PufPuf23
(8,791 posts)I have posted that "We Came, We Saw, He Died" clip a number of times.
Even if Gaddafi was the worst of the worst and directly attacking Americans, Hillary Clinton's gloating was unbecoming and evidence in and of itself that Hillary Clinton does not have the character to be POTUS nor CIC.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Is that even a thing?
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)At least no one got killed this time like her last "mistake". What a joke.
840high
(17,196 posts)Jitter65
(3,089 posts)CP time is probably used by his wife and family. We use it all the time.