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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 05:27 PM Apr 2016

Michelle Obama 'Looks Down' On Hillary Clinton, New Book Claims

Robert Tait, los angeles
11 APRIL 2016 • 9:55PM

Relations between Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama are “fraught with hurt feelings and resentment”, with America’s first lady “looking down” on the Democratic presidential frontrunner and her family, according to a newly published book.

Tensions between the two women date from the 2008 presidential campaign, when Mrs Obama’s husband, Barack, defeated Mrs Clinton for the Democratic nomination and subsequently took the White House, writes author Kate Andersen Brower in First Women: The Grace and Power of America’s Modern First Ladies.

“The 2008 presidential campaign left deep and lasting scars on both the Clinton and the Obama camps, and they are still shockingly fresh,” says the book, which is published on Tuesday by Collins.

Mrs Obama, 52, has never forgotten how Mrs Clinton - herself a former first lady - ridiculed her husband’s “hope and change” message in patronising tones.

“The sky will open, the light will come down, celestial choirs will be singing, and everyone will know that we should do the right thing, and the world would be perfect,” Mrs Clinton told a campaign rally in Ohio.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/11/michelle-obama-looks-down-on-hillary-clinton-new-book-claims/

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Michelle Obama 'Looks Down' On Hillary Clinton, New Book Claims (Original Post) Purveyor Apr 2016 OP
No one believes this boooolshit, they all have too much to do to worry about what happened in 08 uponit7771 Apr 2016 #1
This woman used to work for Fox news--consider the source. nt MADem Apr 2016 #4
Wow. That Hillary quote about Obama sounds a lot like her quotes about Bernie. bjo59 Apr 2016 #2
Hillary is a very negative person jfern Apr 2016 #24
Today she's all over the news saying that Bernie can't answer questions about his main issue, JudyM Apr 2016 #46
It's ridiculous that he's called sexist every time he responds to her attacks jfern Apr 2016 #56
It's *sexist* to use sexism so disingenuously and manipulatively. JudyM Apr 2016 #57
What kind of trash do you expect from a former Fox News producer? nt MADem Apr 2016 #3
kill the messenger; standard ad hominum attack; amborin Apr 2016 #8
Beats discussing all the reasons this could possibly be true GreatGazoo Apr 2016 #15
.+1 840high Apr 2016 #58
It's the kind of trash we expect from Hillary Politicalboi Apr 2016 #26
I'll remember your bitter, bitter words when I hear her say "I Hillary Rodham Clinton, do solemnly MADem Apr 2016 #27
"to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth" in a court of law right? rofl. revbones Apr 2016 #38
Oh snap! farleftlib Apr 2016 #44
Really? For what? nt Nonhlanhla Apr 2016 #54
To support, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, against all enemies, foreign MADem Apr 2016 #47
is she joining the armed forces farleftlib Apr 2016 #50
Yes--she's joining the armed forces as the commander-in-chief. MADem Apr 2016 #52
Mrs Obama is way too classy to waste time on this. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #5
+1 Zira Apr 2016 #37
I had completely forgotten that snotty remark by Mrs. Clinton nichomachus Apr 2016 #6
As far as I know... Fumesucker Apr 2016 #7
Michelle Obama does not look down on others JI7 Apr 2016 #9
Well ... At her height, FLOTUS Obama, no doubt looks down on a lot of people ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #12
It was literal people, c'mon! n/t pantsonfire Apr 2016 #16
Exactly. nt ecstatic Apr 2016 #28
Looks like Michelle plans to "take a page out of Clinton's book" 2cannan Apr 2016 #10
And if she happens to run for President at a later date such fees will become an issue Fumesucker Apr 2016 #18
Writing Books Politicalboi Apr 2016 #32
Good for her--more power to her! nt MADem Apr 2016 #29
I'd buy her books mcar Apr 2016 #33
+1,000! nt MADem Apr 2016 #48
knr snagglepuss Apr 2016 #11
sure. that's why Barrack comes to her defense and made here SOS and MariaThinks Apr 2016 #13
Obama just asked Dems to play nice and unify GreatGazoo Apr 2016 #17
Abso-freaking-lutely farleftlib Apr 2016 #19
BINGO! Politicalboi Apr 2016 #40
I don't think the First Lady is someone you want to cross. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #14
all the republicans do. MariaThinks Apr 2016 #20
Well bless their little hearts. Nt NCTraveler Apr 2016 #23
. blue neen Apr 2016 #21
It's a craven attempt to drive a wedge between Obama fans and Clinton fans. MADem Apr 2016 #34
Well, Michelle is taller than Hillary... cyberswede Apr 2016 #22
Right wingers have been putting out these trashy books for years. It's just like Benghazi BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #25
I remember that dana_b Apr 2016 #30
Oh for gods sake mcar Apr 2016 #31
Because Bernie is losing and his fans are lashing out. nt MADem Apr 2016 #35
I'm just sad about all this mcar Apr 2016 #39
It'll get better once it's all over. MADem Apr 2016 #41
I hope you are right mcar Apr 2016 #42
In the most literal way, she could, but I don't believe that about MO... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #36
The author is a Fox News producer. The idea is to mock them both--dig through, looking for dirty MADem Apr 2016 #43
Michelle Obama: 5'11" -- Hillary Clinton: 5'2"-5'7" (depending on source) Buns_of_Fire Apr 2016 #45
I've stood next to Hillary in an elevator. She's tiny. mainer Apr 2016 #49
Can't imagine anyone would take this personally...after all, I used to like and respect Sanders anotherproletariat Apr 2016 #51
I think he will bear up. You seem to have just joined in order to support Hillary, anyway, right? djean111 Apr 2016 #53
I think this story is an exaggeration. But no doubt relations probably aren't great. DemocraticWing Apr 2016 #55

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
2. Wow. That Hillary quote about Obama sounds a lot like her quotes about Bernie.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 05:31 PM
Apr 2016

That kind of condescending put down of idealists is so easy and so cheap and says so much about the person uttering it. (Not that I think Obama's idealism ran very deep but that's another topic that's neither here nor there right now.)

jfern

(5,204 posts)
24. Hillary is a very negative person
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:32 PM
Apr 2016

"Sen. John McCain has a lifetime of experience that he'd bring to the White House. And Senator Obama has a speech he gave in 2002." - Hillary Clinton

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
46. Today she's all over the news saying that Bernie can't answer questions about his main issue,
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:54 PM
Apr 2016

now that he's under "the bright lights" of NY scrutiny. Can you imagine the outrage if Bernie said anything like that about her? He can't even state the truth about her without being called sexist.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
26. It's the kind of trash we expect from Hillary
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:36 PM
Apr 2016

And she's still doing it. She'll never change, and she'll never be president.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
27. I'll remember your bitter, bitter words when I hear her say "I Hillary Rodham Clinton, do solemnly
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:37 PM
Apr 2016

swear...."

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
38. "to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth" in a court of law right? rofl.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:43 PM
Apr 2016

MADem

(135,425 posts)
47. To support, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, against all enemies, foreign
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:54 PM
Apr 2016
and domestic ....

MADem

(135,425 posts)
52. Yes--she's joining the armed forces as the commander-in-chief.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 07:00 PM
Apr 2016

Hey, at least she didn't lie and say the POPE was shooting at her....

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
37. +1
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:43 PM
Apr 2016

I always liked Michelle Obama.

I used to like Hillary - until she became a Senator and kept voting against every food stamp bill that came along.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
6. I had completely forgotten that snotty remark by Mrs. Clinton
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 05:33 PM
Apr 2016

But then, there have been so many.

I can see where that mocking tone, along with the racist attacks would ruffle Michelle's feathers.

Hillary doesn't have a lot of friends -- just a gaggle of opportunists pretending to be friends.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
12. Well ... At her height, FLOTUS Obama, no doubt looks down on a lot of people ...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 05:50 PM
Apr 2016

especially, if she is wearing heels.

2cannan

(344 posts)
10. Looks like Michelle plans to "take a page out of Clinton's book"
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 05:37 PM
Apr 2016

However, Mrs Obama - who earned $275,000 a year as vice-president of external affairs at Chicago University’s medical centre before her husband's election - hopes to emulate Mrs Clinton in one respect, by writing her owns books after leaving the White House.

Her aides say she looks forward to the day when she leaves “a really nice prison” to earn money through book deals and public speaking fees, Andersen Brower writes. Mrs Clinton received a reported $8 million advance from Simon and Schuster in the final months of her husband’s administration to write about her years as first lady.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
18. And if she happens to run for President at a later date such fees will become an issue
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:10 PM
Apr 2016

As they should for anyone who has taken that sort of money from politically influential groups.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
32. Writing Books
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:40 PM
Apr 2016

Not selling our country to the highest bidder and collecting massive speaking fees from Wall Street.

I'm sure Michelle Obama is a lot smarter than Hillary. She won't taint her record with bribes.

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
13. sure. that's why Barrack comes to her defense and made here SOS and
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 05:54 PM
Apr 2016

sure people are dumb enough to old grudges over stupid things said in a campaign.

drivel.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
17. Obama just asked Dems to play nice and unify
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:07 PM
Apr 2016

despite the spin and hearsay presented by some.

Making her SOS may have been part of the deal to get her to finally surrender her losing effort in 2008.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
19. Abso-freaking-lutely
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:12 PM
Apr 2016

She waited like 4 or 5 days to concede after she lost the primary. She was twisting arms stomping her feet to get the most out of it she could.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
40. BINGO!
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:45 PM
Apr 2016

Her name and husband, and it was probably a pay off to make her quit the 08 campaign. If being First Lady and a Senator from NY for 4 years is qualified, then Obama should have picked someone with "real" experience. Which he did with Kerry.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
14. I don't think the First Lady is someone you want to cross.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 05:58 PM
Apr 2016

And I don't think she is someone who looks down on others.

blue neen

(12,322 posts)
21. .
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:18 PM
Apr 2016

I just don't understand how posting this helps either of our Democratic candidates get elected.

Unrec.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
34. It's a craven attempt to drive a wedge between Obama fans and Clinton fans.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:41 PM
Apr 2016

But once you dig down and see that this shit flinging is coming straight outta FOX NEWS, you start to sense another agenda at work.

BreakfastClub

(765 posts)
25. Right wingers have been putting out these trashy books for years. It's just like Benghazi
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:33 PM
Apr 2016

and the email bullshit. It's all phony. It's too bad there are democrats naïve enough (or desperate enough) to believe them.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
30. I remember that
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:39 PM
Apr 2016

and how offensive many of us found her and her campaign smears against Obama. Having to hear that same kind of baloney and negativity all over again just reminds some of us how glad we were when he won.

mcar

(42,334 posts)
39. I'm just sad about all this
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:44 PM
Apr 2016

I love this site. It kept me sane during the Bush years. I don't recognize it now.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
41. It'll get better once it's all over.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:47 PM
Apr 2016

The Free Republic sock-it-to-me types will fade away, the angry BS fans will be forced to modulate their tone or take their leave, the trolls will stow their accounts until 2017 when they come back to fuck with us during the mid-terms, and the world will keep on turning.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
36. In the most literal way, she could, but I don't believe that about MO...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:42 PM
Apr 2016

I'm actually thinking that her substance is the one to model for anyone who's had to live in Washington. I really think a lot of her.

Actually, The Telegraph... Really? Come on, guys...

MADem

(135,425 posts)
43. The author is a Fox News producer. The idea is to mock them both--dig through, looking for dirty
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:49 PM
Apr 2016

laundry.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,183 posts)
45. Michelle Obama: 5'11" -- Hillary Clinton: 5'2"-5'7" (depending on source)
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:51 PM
Apr 2016

I think the actual number is classified. Bernie Sanders also seems to hover from 5'8" to 6'.

Where's Tiger Beat when you need them?

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
51. Can't imagine anyone would take this personally...after all, I used to like and respect Sanders
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:58 PM
Apr 2016

But, after this election cycle, I will forevermore have a changed opinion of him. I had previously thought of him as a bit more moral and honest than the average politician, and maybe he was at one time. Now I can see that he is just another 'all talk, no substance' guy...and that annoying loud monotone will remain on my nerves for quite a while.

Point is, when you have an adversary in any type of serious conflict, it is likely that the two sides will come out with long term dislike towards each other. The real news would have been if Michelle had no hard feelings for Hillary...then she would truly be a saint!

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
53. I think he will bear up. You seem to have just joined in order to support Hillary, anyway, right?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 07:01 PM
Apr 2016

Another "Bernie BUT" post. Bwahahahaha!

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
55. I think this story is an exaggeration. But no doubt relations probably aren't great.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 07:08 PM
Apr 2016

Look, the Clintons and Obamas ain't pals. They were political rivals, and they put aside the rivalry for 8 years because they had to. Now that Obama is leaving the White House, they aren't gonna be teaming up and becoming buddies. The nasty crap that got flung back and forth in 2008 stung everybody, and that's not at all uncommon in politics.

All that being said, this book is supposed to put both Michelle and Hillary in an unflattering light because that's what the GOP wants to do.

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