2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumFractured Republican Party Could Go the Way of the Whigs
Will the Republican Party as we know it today disintegrate and coalesce anew with a different emphasis - or even a different name? There's certainly precedent for this occurring. The Republican Party, you may recall, didn't even exist until shortly before the Civil War. Abraham Lincoln served in Congress under an entirely different banner - that of the Whig Party.
The Whigs actually dominated presidential politics in the 1840s: Four of the five presidents in the period from 1841 to 1853 were Whigs. But by the mid-1850s, the party had ceased to function as a viable entity, and some of its former members re-emerged under the banner of the nascent Republican Party.
Why did the Whigs fall apart?
They were, like the modern Republicans, an uneasy coalition of pro-business individuals on the one hand and religious revivalists on the other. Then, as now, the division was geographical and social: Northern business interests on the one hand and the Southern, pro-slavery group on the other. Meanwhile, two of its most influential leaders - Henry Clay and Daniel Webster - both died, leaving a void that, in the end, no one could effectively fill. (Clay had served as senator, secretary of state and Speaker of the House; Webster had served in the Senate and also as secretary of state.) With the compromise of 1850, the party split along pro- and anti-slavery lines and was, like Humpty Dumpty, irreparably broken.
If this sounds familiar, it should. Today's Republican Party finds itself divided between a pro-business faction on the one hand and religious revivalists on the other. The latter faction finds most of its strength in the South and, to some extent, the Midwest. It's also dominated by white males. As in the 1850s, the party is bogged down by social issues, in this case contraception, same-sex marriage, military service for women and gays, etc. There's nothing like the overarching issue of slavery, which was an economic as well as a social consideration. Nevertheless, the passions associated with these modern issues are rising and may soon approach those once associated with slavery.
If the minority in the socially conservative base comes to dominate the Republican Party, that party will likely cease to be a viable alternative. And when corporate interests realize it can no longer win, they'll invest their money elsewhere - either in a new party or in efforts to lobby Democrats.
If you're a Democrat, all this can be fun to watch. If you're a Republican, you should be scared to death.
Read more: http://www.theprovocation.net/2012/02/fractured-republican-party-could-go-way.html
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)Democratic Party.
izquierdista
(11,689 posts)They've already co-opted it. All that is left is a little haggling on the exact price.
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)unblock
(52,309 posts)in fact, if you're mr. corporate and the republican party is no longer serving your interests, are you more likely to fund an untested new party or co-opt the winning democratic party? of course, you're more likely to co-opt the democratic party.
this would leave anti-corporate progressives out in the cold, until they formed an uneasy coalition with the socially conservative remnants of the republican party.
the democratic party could end up pro-corporate but otherwise progressive, leaving the republican party to be religiously conservative and anti-corporate; or, the democratic party could end up very much like the republican party of today but without the bigots; which would lead to a sort of undoing of the "southern strategy".
all of this is highly speculative, of course. the demise of the republican party remains a rather improbable outcome.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Should the Democratic party become the Republicans without the religious right, that leaves plenty of space on the left for a new party (or a larger existing "left" party such as the Greens).
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)LiberalFighter
(51,054 posts)How about the Franklin Graham Crappies?
Santorican Party
Cantorican Party
Theocratic Party
Pure Christian Party
You Must Pray Party
mysuzuki2
(3,521 posts)JNathanK
(185 posts)denem
(11,045 posts)Landslide here, landslide there, the South stayed Democratic.
It took Brown v. Board of Education (1954) to really fracture the Democrats.
No has clean hands.
Marsala
(2,090 posts)The Whigs were only around for a couple of decades that were still early in our country's history. The Republicans will go extinct only if they go into a complete death spiral, lose the next several presidential elections AND control of congress, and become a permanent minority. In that case they will probably be pushed out by a third party. But it's much more likely that the Republicans will change and adapt.
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)The same crazy people that make up the Republican party today would still exist tomorrow, doesn't matter what banner they rally behind.
DFW
(54,436 posts)The Republicans do. They may metamorphose a bit here and there, but they'll be around for a long while to come.
eppur_se_muova
(36,281 posts)Kurmudgeon
(1,751 posts)jmowreader
(50,562 posts)I think the pro-business faction would reclaim the Republican Party, and the teabaggers, snake handlers and freepers would move to the Constitution Party. The Constitution Party people would put quite a few people in Congress--my worthless fucking representative (who is probably going to lose this time, because the Democrat who is going to challenge him is Jimmy Farris...who played 36 games in the NFL and owns a Super Bowl ring) would definitely become a Constitution Party member.
Kablooie
(18,638 posts)The corporate side of the GOP could join the Dem corporates and push the whole party farther right than they are now.