Cool.

If so, I approve.

They don't personally support LBGT rights or any others that do not benefit them...they do good lip-service after the fact though, don't they?

"I have always...never...supported equal rights!"

We know he's pro-corporate, but we don't have a clue what he thinks on most social issues.

everything is her fault after all.

Even Batman vs Superman.

Law and tome break our bones when words are political pablum.

A good number of southern Democrats are conservative.

I'm a VERY liberal Southern Democrat, but I live in that Applachian region in East Tennessee/Western North Carolina that shows up white or green (blue being for Hillary, white for a wash and green for Sanders) on the voter maps.

We're a pretty liberal bunch.

Fun Fact: Hillbillies generally are very liberal for two reasons - they neither supported slavery and are usually union members.

Yet they have the nerve to have tried to make Hillary the social justice candidate over Sanders. Neither her nor her supporters care that much about social justice unless it can be exploited to win political points. We see it time and time again on here, be it racial issues, the gender card, you name it they'll exploit it.

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After lying about my candidate's values, you can't answer this?

Oh, yeah - there's the one guy who said nothing.

Come on. Where is the REAL OUTRAGE over REAL discrimination. Mhmmhh?

to launch a cheap shot disingenuous attack on Clinton and her supporters here.

Pumping up the stridency and vitriol doesn't make you any more noble or enlightened.

Seriously, what is your problem?

I've been for gay rights since I was a child. And that does make me more noble and enlightened than some rancid politician who thinks their rights still don't matter.

But that's not the point of ur post--your point bring to try to blame HRC for HB2. Which is egregious.

to create outrage and YOU accuse ME of blaming supporter for full-out bullshit.

THESE assholes support Hillary. THESE assholes voted to HURT people who are different than they are and made it law. This was not a matter of words. This is LAW.

Fuck your "egregious" bullshit.

Silence then discord.

It's amusing.

Most of these people, they were pro NSA and so totally against "Snowden/Greenwald".
Totally beside themselves.
They all enjoyed the Libya war, the outcome. They did!

I agree with Pres. Carter. Hillary is bad news.

SMH

instead of himself disavowing the fucking oppressors.
In fact the guy accused YOU of "exploiting oppression", just because you demanded that a Dem candidate for the job of POTUS ought to disavow the oppressors, since those oppressors are explicitly riding her coat-tails with their public endorsements.

That's fairly common sense, to me.

That's why I laugh and I remember all the crazy shit that these right wingers have laid on us over the years. In every case they're on the wrong side - they're just so reliable.

Oh well, ... somehow my mind wandered and I got to thinking about turning over rocks and then remembered how when I was a kid I used to love camping with my family at the seashore, because every rock I turned over had a thousand tiny crabs and millipedes and sometimes really crazy looking animals. Like starfish and sand dollars and anemones that you could stick your finger into, if you were gentle. I came from the northern interior of Canada so this was all exotic as hell. Nice memories...

heh, don't expect much more than what you've already gotten from this geek person. geek's accusation says it all.

You are off base it is pointing out what I have been saying all week. You keep calling people like me racist for how I think the southern vote was unfairly weighing on our election because of how conservative it is, but all the HRC group saw on here was a chance to grab Strom Thurmond's robes out of the DNC closest and dress us in it. There are some highly unprogressive and disgusting democrats in our wardrobe, I figured they supported Hillary hands down, but have not had the chance to go through voting records at the state level for all of these hate bills in the south.

Don't be sad though, your candidate appeals to a more diverse group or bigots and racists, perhaps that is why she thanked Nancy Reagan for all the good they did for the AIDs epidemic, because it was the kid of good some of her base supported.

Ok the last is a bit harsh, but I am leaving it in because the HRC crew needs to know how their own hate painting tactic feels and especially because unlike the HRC attacks this is based on the truth.

It becomes obvious that your side practices double standards when her cohort is allowed to harbor openly homophobic players who take hugely bigoted legislative action and the other candidate's civilian supporters are parsed for every possible offense. No one in Bernie's team voted to oppress any minority. A whole bunch of Hillary's endorsers did. And on DU of late many of her boosters have lavished praise on 'The Establishment Democrats' and on Southern Democrats whom they claim are just as progressive as others, in spite of their votes to discriminate against some minorities.

Hypocrites. Corrupt transaction based hypocrites.

Hillary booster to employ it this cycle. You lack the ability to answer what I have said so you take a cheap personal swipe at me. A classic swipe at that.
What's sad is that you can't see that you insult to cover up your own lack of skill and capability to defend your position here. You think that you can play status paradigms and off the rack insults and get by with that. But all it does is highlight the fact that you have no valid or even actual response. You have insults and smokescreens.

Edited to repeat the point you wish to ignore: She should have rejected their endorsements like she would have if they were racists. End of story.

maybe I'd believe this was about anything besides bitter, sour grapes from backing the losing horse.

So, no, I am not attributing anything you're writing to who you were born as, but rather 100% to garden variety primary partisan vitriol.

rejected? And I have never ever claimed she was any sort of hero. That's just false. Her father, a Hawaii Senator is by the way an extremely anti gay Democrat who used to be a Republican and you probably don't even know who he endorsed.....not Bernie.

But it is very wrong of you to claim I have said she's a hero of equality. I have said no such thing. She's a good example of the shift in thinking in the US military, she served under Clinton's DADT and other laws the military used to impose that anti gay mindset. The institution enforced that bigotry and yet she managed to over come that training and that of her Conservative family.

Hillary Clinton, of course, opposed equality until 2013 in great and dogmatic detail, she is the candidate you are touting. Just last month your candidate demonstrated a vast ignorance about not only LGBT issues but of the simple history of her own times when she lavished praise on the Reagans for AIDS activism. That's your actual candidate who said all of that crap.

So do not put words in my mouth and do not bear false witness against me. If you can't defend your own positions, perhaps it is time to rethink those positions.

(leaving aside her nasty Islamaphobic bigotry)

Let's revisit the record of this person you're willing to make excuses for, totally not because she supports Bernie Sanders (as opposed to Elijah Cummings, who's permanently on the list of bad people):

falsely claimed I had praised Gabbard as a hero of equality. You are trying to smear me because you can't manage to defend your own positions here.

Gabbard is as I have said. Yet another straight person who took her time getting her ethics in order. That describes most of DU. Hillary Clinton and Bill, Barack Obama and Jo 'DOMA' Biden. I'm glad all of them are no longer opponents. But none of those converts have the standing to pander to or to allow bigotry in their own cohorts. If Hillary has 'evolved' she should denounce those bigots just as she would denounce racists endorsing her.

It's just creepy for you to dismiss what I say then argue with a bunch of crap you claim I said or stuff you wish to tag me with arbitrarily. You don't even address what I say, you just shout bullshit tropes at me. This demonstrates the underlying inequality in your worldview and in that of your candidate.

on a daily basis

You didn't even manage to wedge claims of racism and sexism in your rebuttal. You must be getting tired. Jeez, the least you could do is a little red baiting or some more fake poutrage. You're not even trying now.

on with the core constituencies of the Democratic party rather than flinging poo at all the demographic groups that rejected it

"demographic groups"? That's weak sauce. C'mon, your checklist says to call us racists and sexists and commies. You do it all the time, c'mon step back up to the plate. Don't be timid! Go back to the approved talking points with GUSTO! I mean, sure, you are TRYING to claim Benrie's supporters are all whacko lefties and with "core constituencies" and that you represent the mainstream, but your delivery is so tepid.

Step it up man or you'll only get the set of steak knives.

over again while straight white male Hillary supporters preach at us about how we should think, as they ascribe to us things we have never said and treat us like dirt.

we will not play with your bigots and will not play along with 'Ron and Nancy saved us from AIDS' and other hateful bullshit.

You are here to defend five bigots who voted for a terrible law, a law so bad Ringo won't play for them, the Boss is avoiding them. Hillary and her cohort 'proudly stand with the NC 5'.

It's a terrible choice to make, and it is exactly why I hope Bernie wins the nomination. He will win Oregon just as he won Washington and Hawaii and Alaska. California is in play. We are in the midst of an election which you can't seem to endure. Everyone gets to vote. Even the West Coast with all those gays and pot smokers you all hate. We feel the hate, and we vote against that hate. Your methods might work in fear based NY, but the way you carry on would get you no where here. No where, and fast.

is actually funny. Seriously, "fear based NY?" Coming from the sheltered enclaves of Portlandia, that's funny.

Also, this is completely unhinged:

I mean, where's the effort? It feels like you are just going through the motions now. Look, it's been at least five posts since you've thrown in a gratuitous "Bernie Bro". What's the problem here? Yes, I recognize you are doing a good job repeating the "Bernie is a racist" theme (just between you and me, that's hilariously Rovian, isn't it? ), but you need to work out of this slump you're in.

Please check the playbook. You know that unless you pick up your game and up the distraction level and feign some more outrage, people might discuss the issues, policies, and histories of the candidates. That would be disastrous! The last thing we can have is a substantive discussion.

Look, I know it must be exhausting defending the indefensible, but that's the job you signed up for. Get to it! Find a second wind! I mean, at least throw out a "Bernie supports rape" claim or something. Go big or go home!

Irony meters everywhere just exploded into a gazillion pieces.

We'll be picking up shrapnel for weeks.

Exploiting the plight of women to take a cheap shot disingenuous attack on Sanders regarding someone else's words (ie: Corporate Whores.)

Someone with one vote in the NY primaries, introduced Sanders and said an 'inappropriate word', and you blame Sanders and demand he comdemn the use of such language (which he did BTW,) but here you are the same fucking day apologizing for Clinton supporting superdelagates, people with 10,000 votes worth of power, who didn't just 'say a inappropriate word', but actually voted for a fucking ANTI-LGBT LAW .. and not a fucking word out of you ... no condemnation of those legislators. No call for Hillary to condemn their hateful and harmful vote. Just more of the same old hypocrisy of calling out minor misuses of words from Bernie, while ignoring real and harmful actions from Hillary and her camp.

Talk about ignoble. At long last sir/madam, have you no sense of shame?

a Starbucks barista would be slightly envious.

The dismissiveness around LGBT rights was something to see. But of course at the time their candidate was dismissive as well; it wasn't until much later that Clinton did the calculus and determined it was politically advantageous to reverse herself.

anyone we know of?

The one who recently said she would be willing to compromise on abortion? Who pandered to the bigots at Rick Warren's Saddleback church?

Oops, my bad. Hillary's going to be shmoozing it up with other millionaires at a pay to play event!

While Bernie who stood up for our rights even when he went to Liberty University will be in Rome discussing poverty.

Is that the answer you were looking for?

Is the Pope an elected official?

I think, no.

Next.

I had been trying to say this over and over, but I did not have time to look up the voting records of these sick guys. I know in Arkansas we had representatives that were democrats in name only. I am sure if some one takes the time they will find them in the other states that passed these laws. I still remember the arguments I had about gay marriage with other "liberals".

I'm Southern. I was born and raised and live in Tennessee.

I'm surprised this wasn't alerted on, but, since I'm Southern and live with these people, I guess I'm allowed to complain.

When I finally got tired of the cr@p narrative of the HRC painting the Bernie group as racist I posted long threads explaining I am from the south, grew up there, and all my family still is just so they could not instantly pull that dismissive attack on me. I also pointed out that my family did not vote for Obama but for Hillary because they felt that the US would never vote for a black guy (which is racism by proxy, don't hire the black man because our customers are racist). I have met some of the most close minded DNC members in the south. It goes with out saying there are some great people in the south (Willie Nelson), but they have a ton of that cr@p to deal with.

and they are anti choice supporters of Sanders.

Nice, well excluding the fact that he is the closest the church has ever come to supporting gays in its history, he has openly gay friends he visited, and he has said nothing against gay marrriage (which is a big thing in its self).
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michelangelo-signorile/pope-francis-gay-marriage_b_8194780.html

But other than that good point, I think we should single out the most progressive voice of a large and powerful bodie and just insult him.

both Marcy Kaptur and Collin Peterson who endorsed Bernie are anti choice.

She's the one who is OK with putting choice on the table.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/09/29/hillary_clinton_i_could_compromise_on_abortion_if_it_included_exceptions_for_mothers_health.html

But I'm guessing that the number who endorsed Clinton and voted against would make these five look like a complete outlier, wouldn't it?

Because you are claiming that five endorsers voting against the rights of minority groups is acceptable, while others on DU are having a huge tantrum over some guy who said 'corporate whores who are beholden to Big Pharma'. Not a legislator, not an opponent of anyone's rights at all.
So what sort of standard allows one candidate to line up numerous openly bigoted official endorsers but does not allow the other candidate to have a citizen who speaks strongly against corruption?

And again, how may anti gay activist officials is too many for you and Camp Clinton? I assume she was pandering to that segment of her cohort when she praised the Reagans as the original AIDS activists. A huge lie her DU supporters excused and defended and never explained, an attack that Hillary has yet to correct in the fully televised and detailed way she made her ignorant proclamations.

So is 6 too many? If 5 not enough? How does it work, once you start welcoming bigoted supporters?

You just wanted an excuse to grossly generalize while having a giant tantrum, and I set you right up.

Mea culpa.

ETA: Goodbye forever.

advocate. Do you think such behaviors benefit your candidate? It's a nasty, bigoted reaction you have. Which is typical of those who would defend anti gay legislators. Which is what you are doing.

It's a simple question. You are fine with 5 bigots, are you fine with infinite bigots? Do these bigots have to be homophobic bigots or do you also welcome other flavors of bigot? Is 5 racists also a minor detail that no one should mention and if they do we will say 'you are having a tantrum, you should accept my bigoted friends'?

and is running out to embrace the Vatican, just like he did with Liberty University.

Sanders supporters, the revolutionaries, decided to leave Scott Walker's homophobic judge on the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

Fake fucking outrage.