2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy oh why doesn't CNN kill her mic when her time is up like the old days?
I forgot they are big contributors to Hillary!!!
TheCowsCameHome
(40,169 posts)Time Up? .........Silence......................
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)Or was that NBC?
MADem
(135,425 posts)You could have googled before you smeared.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)As most people would define "earn."
MADem
(135,425 posts)Not sure what your point is.
Should someone be "blamed" because NBC hired CC?
Who gets the Big Harrumph? Her mother? Her father? Her husband? Someone else?
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)That "earn," to me, means by your brain or the sweat of your brow, not your family's name and connections. I would say, "was paid."
MADem
(135,425 posts)Obviously, they think that's a fair price, otherwise they wouldn't pay it.
I doubt they'd pay me to do a few segments and do creative work on proposed shows, but I'm not famous.
Fame is worth something. It DOES have value. Hell, even if you're a half forgotten child star, you can get a quarter million bucks for going on Dancing with the Stars.
Do you seriously think that Bernie's "value" is the same as it was before he made this run for POTUS? His "fame" has increased his Speakers Bureau value enormously.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Yeah, I forgot "star power," which I do admit exists.
But Chelsea and Jenna? Really??
MADem
(135,425 posts)They are young marrieds.
They're doing that work/parenthood thing.
That's not my wheelhouse, but there is a subset of young people out there who are newly married, and/or new parents, who like to see how the other half lives.
It's why people like the Kate and Will thing, too--vicarious living.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)And frankly it has always scared me, although I'd be cognizant of it were I an entertainment executive or a campaign manager.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Ah, yes. But a fair price for *what*?
MADem
(135,425 posts)I'd rather hear what those young ladies have to say than, say, one of the Kardashians. At least they've had the benefit of a decent education.
But the networks aren't marketing to old farts like me. They want youthful eyes on their programs, and they believe that young women (mostly) who can identify with the Chelsea/Jenna/Meghan set are more likely to stop and watch their morning programming if they see someone that they can say "Hey, she's like me!"
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)I'd be (somewhat) interested to know what their ratings were. I hope young people ignored them in droves.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Renew Deal
(81,877 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)And maybe duct tape that waving arm to his side?
Omaha Steve
(99,744 posts)trueblue2007
(17,240 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Watch.
When Sanders talks, Clinton turns and listens to him.
When Clinton talks, Sanders stares straight ahead, does not LOOK at his opponent, shifts from foot to foot, and fidgets--then he starts waving that arm and wiggling that finger.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)It's a style thing, and yes I would advise Bernie to emulate Hillary in this, were I an advisor.
Doesn't mean I like her, just means I recognize a style thing that would be easy to correct when I see one.
trueblue2007
(17,240 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)He doesn't know how to debate in a civil fashion!
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Yes he does, mostly. As does Hillary, mostly.
jehop61
(1,735 posts)if we could just get Bernie's arm and finger tied down.......
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)So he gestures when he talks. That's a style thing, which I happen to like. YMMV.
As for the finger, I think a raised index finger to indicate a desire to rebut is a lot better than shouting over the other ON THEIR TIME.
But we're never going to convince each other, of course. And voters will decide for themselves.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I'll bet if Clinton did it you would be very annoyed.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)It wouldn't work for Hillary, probably. But I dislike her intensely for many reasons, so I'm hardly an unbiased observer. As you are not either, I perceive.
So I'm unilaterally agreeing to disagree.
Omaha Steve
(99,744 posts)trueblue2007
(17,240 posts)Cowpunk
(719 posts)chillfactor
(7,584 posts)Hillary folds when her time is up.....you bernie supporters are really grasping at straws.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)But at least once I distinctly saw her shouting over him on his time.
Renew Deal
(81,877 posts)tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)Did you just see that great #wegetleftbehind walmart worker ad?
KelleyD
(277 posts)Omaha Steve
(99,744 posts)I thought my colors showed from day one!
OS
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)philly_bob
(2,419 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)I thumb my nose at you as well, which is how I took that. Although, upon reflection, I really should take it as a compliment.
mcar
(42,381 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Or play Oscar music....
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berniepdx420
(1,784 posts)oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Karma13612
(4,554 posts)stopped, and told to answer a new question before being given a chance to rebutt.
bernie is always cut off, and never allowed to rebutt, and expected to answer a new question.
BULL$H!T
The Midway Rebel
(2,191 posts)Karma13612
(4,554 posts)TheKentuckian
(25,029 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)She, quite rightly, gave it up faster this time. Sometimes I wonder if it's deliberate, to make it look like *he's* shouting over *her*.
Impedimentus
(898 posts)forcing her to stop the never ending blah, blah, blah.
FEEL THE BERN - 2013
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)have we ever seen anything like this?