mono track messaging, lost, rude, off message, acrimonious, belligerent, worn out, ....yeah, it's getting old alright.

... I don't know why, maybe it's just me, but it totally grosses me out. (All the other things are just annoying and nerve-grating.)

She talked many more minutes than Bernie last night. Sorry, but that is an empirical FACT. Wolfie and the other toadies simply refused to bring her "to heel."

is certainly poor behavior...

Hillary talked more minutes during the debate. True or false?

You're welcome to disagree with their OPINIONS, but explain how "lying" works in here...

...or perhaps, go work for the Trump campaign? he seems to like that phrase.

opinions contrary to fact about those photos, about Danny Lyon and foisted his made up opinion as facts without any fucking basis at all, in the Post and all over the media.

The Washington Post also claimed incorrectly that 147 FBI Agents were investigating Hillary. Or maybe that was true, since they are so trusted by those who most adore Hillary?

That paper has lied about both Democratic candidates this cycle. As a Democrat, I object to that and do not care for promoting them on days their narrative happens to mesh with my own.

The Danny Lyon smear was unprofessional and they did not do the right thing following up. It's McCathyist and fantasist in nature.

Now you can say something about my head being in the sand. But I still do not and will not accept anything from the Washington Post, not after that Capehart garbage.

He will fail.

Simply by breaking through the apathy that Clinton's candidacy has induced and offering a REAL choice Sanders wins.

Hillary's number never moves -- Obama wins by winning undecideds:

He needs to knock her below 50% to win.

He can't add anyone in New York. And a majority of those who can vote are supporting Clinton here.

He brought in new voters, particularly young people. Bernie represents a path to save a dying party. She represents the potential destruction of the Party.

Democrats not in danger of self-destructing--have problems but can be fixed. Republicans? Not so much.

disfavor by comparing Barack to....Bernie. Barack was in his 40's in his prime and a rising star in the Democratic party. And that's just for starters. Bernie is just Occupy Wall Street on steroids, copycat Al Gore on Climate Change and smear all Democrats and anyone who doesn't buy his negativity.

Bernie is NO Barack!

They sure disappeared during midterms. We don't need that to happen again.

Democratic presidents in the Age of Reagan tend to lose support except when facing weak GOP opponents. In the Age of Sanders that dynamic will change, imo. Candidates will head to the left, where the American mainstream is heading because of perpetual war and extreme wealth inequality. Voters will respond when an incumbent fights to expand SS rather than cutting it. You have to give people something to vote for, not against. That is why the Dem Party has shrunk in registrants, state governors and legislators in the Age of Reagan.

Don't praise Reagan, as Obama and WJC have done, expose his lies, racism and genocide and take him head on.

They had a huge drop off in Wisconsin on the very same ballot. I don't live in Wisconsin and even I was aware of that judicial race.

Clinton has had poor turn out throughout this primary, down double digits from her 2008 run.

The enthusiasm gap is kicking Clinton's butt in state after state.

Then there's this:



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-greenberg/polldefying-pattern-predi_b_9434118.html

if we were to redo Ohio, Florida and Florida, or any state, Bernie would improve. Annie Oakley would decline.

right now all that matters is NY-PA-MD-CT-DE-RI.

Clinton --if the polls are correct-is supported by more than 50% of the voters in every poll of those states.

He needs to take votes away from people inclined to support her, and to do that he needs to give them a reason to drop her.

Hence the attacks.

...they both liberally went over their time allotments.

A link? A quote? Anything? No? Just your truthiness-inspired opinion? Clearly.

One is on FB, the other on Reddit, both by Bernie backers. I don't think Establishment outlets keep accountability data on their own programs. I can only link to a website too progressive to be named on DU. If you Message me, I will send you the link.

When you can find a credible media source that tracked speaking time at the debate, then you might have a point. Instead, what you're likely trying to present is some BernieBro-manufactured bullshit with no basis in reality. I'm not even going to waste time pretending those sources are viable just to placate you either.

I also shouldn't need to privately message you to get evidence of a claim you made in public. Your evidence should be posted with the claim. Let me guess, the "website too progressive to be named on DU" starts with "breit" and ends with "bart," doesn't it?

GTFOOH

sniper dodging, Annie Oakley, moderate/progressive, Bernie-is-unqualified, crime-guns-come-from-Vermont, I-told-off-Wall-Street, I'll release the transcripts, Goldwater Girl any day of the century.

You and your fake evidence.

I can't bear to wonder what she's going to say next. I hope to retain some affection for the Party after her lurch to the right and all that ignorant bigotry so I have shut down any listening to Hillary for the sake of other Democrats.

at least that's how my nervous-system felt watching it

Any day of the week

Bernie Sanders did what he needed to do. He called out Hillary Clinton on the smears she was saying about him and the misrepresentations that she was trying to sell about herself. Because of that "his tone" was different. Well of course it was! He had to do some truth telling. He is dealing with someone who is far from an honest candidate.

He did it in a straight forward honest way. He cornered her a few times and really showed how it is almost impossible it is to get a straight answer and commitment from her. It, I think really was really quite telling. It showed her dancing around trying to dodge making the commitment in black and white terms. He proved the point that Hillary Clinton cannot answer to many things directly whereas Bernie Sanders has and will. He is a straight forward person that understands the complexity of issues that does not get sidetracked by the glitz and glamour of the power and wealth being tempted by the upper one tenth of 1%.

His personal accumulation of wealth compared to her accumulation of wealth while being "public servants" alone speaks volumes.

Will you release your transcripts? How many time did he have to ask her and how many times did she try to evade and dance around the commitment? He showed how evasive she is as a person and politician. He took her to task for the crap that she and/or her cohorts had said about him. He had to be stern and show what the difference between a person who is direct and upfront and a person who is varying and indirect.

As you can see, Hillary got more time during her turns and interrupts Bernie more. I don't see his putting his finger up as interrupting. He's signalling to the moderators that he wants to respond. Hillary just goes ahead and interrupts and talks over Bernie. And she did more yelling than he did this debate. She barely stopped yelling the whole time.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280174957

A few anecdotes are not the consensus the writer would like us to imagine.

Watch the polls if you want to know who "won."

Scientific polls could probably tell us if the wind has changed diretion or not.

Anecdotes won't.

After all this is not a campaign of ideas. It's corporate entertainment.

"Ohhhhhhhhh did you see Bernie's posture there?"

"Ohhhhhhhhh Clinton just looks so masterful in her posture."


"Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that point was made in the wrong tone."


It's fucking bullshit. Politics has become chepened to the point of being bullshit.

The oligarchs win again. Distract from actual ideas and realoities. "Hey look at that Bright Shiny Object over There. Forget that hand that's picking your pocket."

And folks wonder why so many are turned off by politics? Awful display by both last night. I really can't believe this is the best DEMs have. Sad.

He is already tanking with African American voters.. that comment certainly wont help.

when that happens you are toast

lol

and
this
was
in
New York.

Don't count your Cuckoos before they hatch.

Her debate performance was horrid. She is status quo. No vision or courage.
She is incremental when we need bold steps.

...everyone lost last night.

With the booing and the cheering and the petty attacking back and forth I felt like I was watching a reality TV show about a couple divorcing.

If I wanted garbage like that I'd go watch Cruz and Trump debate.