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BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
2. How soon her legion of fanatics forget!
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:14 AM
Apr 2016

That all didn't happen. She never was against Obama, they've always been allied against Bernie Sanders.

"We've always been at war with Eastasia". Emmanuel Goldstein will tell you we were at war with Eurasia. That is a lie!

Mike__M

(1,052 posts)
11. Someone who went behind his back
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:54 AM
Apr 2016

and set up a means of securing advice from a person whose advice the President expressly rejected? Is that who you mean?

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
12. Remember when we were all pissed off that
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 01:26 AM
Apr 2016

Obama kept trying to "work with Republicans," and they kept kicking him in the face?

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
8. If anyone here hasn't read "Game Change," it's a must
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:30 AM
Apr 2016

Hillary's team in '08 also gave the impression of constantly putting out fires.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
9. Hard To Forget
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:47 AM
Apr 2016

But I agree her Iraq vote is her big, big scarlet letter.

Either way it was....she was either easily duped or she was not but was afraid to vote no....still damning to me. Trillions of dollars wasted, lives ended or impacted badly, war profiteering right and left.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
14. Third possibility...
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 03:53 AM
Apr 2016

She was not duped, but wanted to show she was tough, that she would go to war.

And if she's elected, she will go to war over the smallest slight. To show she is tough.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
10. Nor will I forget the racial slurs from both Clintons.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:52 AM
Apr 2016

And her patronizing attitude to Bernie in the
beginning was nauseating.

Buzz cook

(2,474 posts)
13. Well most of those turned out to be true.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 01:43 AM
Apr 2016

He only achieved a republican health care plan. Not much to dream about there.

He had a partial senate term. Once in office he let the republican minority run rough shod over the nation.

Many Obama supporters were just as nasty as anything we see in 2016.

Obama led in the male demographic. Many of those men acted in an unpleasnt manner.

Obama's team called Clinton a racist and a secret fundie dominionist.

Name all the top female cabinet members in Obama's administration.

Obama hugged all of George W. Bush's policies as if they were his own. Including killing American citizens without trial.

Clinton was better on many issues than Obama. History has proven that. The most cogent example is the housing crisis in which Obama's HAMP has been a failure while Clinton's HOLC proposal had a proven successful record.

Those young people helped get a DINO into the whitehouse.

Soapbox, Obama is a center right republican. Sorry to break the news to you.

uponit7771

(90,363 posts)
16. Yes, its funny that Sanders is winning a similar coalition that Clinton lost with in 2008 and
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 05:28 AM
Apr 2016

... is running a similar campaign as hers which discounted the southern states.

sigh

Sky Masterson

(5,240 posts)
17. Lather , Rinse, Repeat
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 07:08 AM
Apr 2016

Meet the old Hill, same as the new Hill or is it Meet the new Hill, same as the old hill? Works either way

Umbral18

(105 posts)
19. What I remember was not being able to find a dimes worth of difference between the two.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 11:56 PM
Apr 2016

That's not a problem I'm having this election.

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