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Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 02:05 AM Apr 2016

Hillary Clinton: I Could Compromise on Abortion

I had to look this one up to verify it, but it turns out to be shockingly legit:

HILLARY CLINTON: My husband vetoed a very restrictive legislation on late-term abortions and he vetoed it at an event in the White House where we invited a lot of women who had faced this very difficult decision, that ought to be made based on their own conscience, their family, their faith, in consultation with doctors. Those stories left a searing impression on me. Women who think their pregnancy is going well and then wake up and find some really terrible problem. Women whose life is threatened if they carry their child to term, and women who are told by doctors that the child they're carrying will not survive.

Again, I am where I have been, which is that if there's a way to structure some kind of constitutional restriction (on abortion) that take into account the life of the mother and her health, then I'm open to that. But I have yet to see the Republicans willing to actually do that, and that would be an area, where if they included health, you could see constitutional action.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/09/29/hillary_clinton_i_could_compromise_on_abortion_if_it_included_exceptions_for_mothers_health.html
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Hillary Clinton: I Could Compromise on Abortion (Original Post) Bubzer Apr 2016 OP
Now imagine for a moment if Bernie had said that... beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #1
He would be crucified...reconstituted somehow, only to be eviscerated and crucified again. Bubzer Apr 2016 #2
I can't compromise on Hillary. No vote. Not sorry - I'm a feminist. Zira Apr 2016 #3
If that's the case, the SCOTUS argument for so-called party unity is moot. KPN Apr 2016 #4
Already working on her compromises I see. Lancero Apr 2016 #5
She can and will compromise on anything, if it gets her ahead. senz Apr 2016 #6
+1 n/t area51 Apr 2016 #14
+2 BeanMusical Apr 2016 #54
For $250,000 a could becomes a will quantumjunkie Apr 2016 #7
That's not all jfern Apr 2016 #8
Ugh... That sounds like when she was saying big corporations can be dems too... Bubzer Apr 2016 #9
Remind me again about how she fights for women's rights? SheilaT Apr 2016 #10
Speeches, she talks a good game. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #11
Yep. Talk is cheap. SheilaT Apr 2016 #12
See this is what pandering to the religious right looks like. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #15
Talk is cheap? Lordquinton Apr 2016 #32
*snerk* beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #37
I know. And it enrages me that women, especially young women, SheilaT Apr 2016 #18
I think more young women support Bernie. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #19
But, but, young women only support Bernie because that's where the boys are. BeanMusical Apr 2016 #55
All The Stalwart NOW Women Getting Tossed Under The Bus! When You Vote For Someone Who CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #59
By serial smearing women who dare to suggest they have been raped, groped, or harassed Fairgo Apr 2016 #13
I like your Bernie logos quantumjunkie Apr 2016 #16
Thank you! Bubzer Apr 2016 #23
Yeah rock Apr 2016 #36
I reject your comment.. aww hell... I think I'll reject you too! welcome to my ignore list! Bubzer Apr 2016 #40
you are my hero, bubzer roguevalley Apr 2016 #49
Awww... don't know if I deserve to be anyone's hero...but thank you. Bubzer Apr 2016 #51
Lol! Great reply. BeanMusical Apr 2016 #53
Hey rock: BeanMusical Apr 2016 #56
Well, Thumb up my fist to you rock Apr 2016 #62
I love you too. BeanMusical Apr 2016 #63
Not as much as I love you rock Apr 2016 #64
Will you marry me? BeanMusical Apr 2016 #66
No rock Apr 2016 #67
Ah, that's too bad. BeanMusical Apr 2016 #68
shit, i'm confused redruddyred Apr 2016 #60
She's a horrible candidate... AzDar Apr 2016 #17
So was Shrub, and he was an even worse POTUS. Keep that in mind (not you personally, just...) nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #26
K&R TheDormouse Apr 2016 #20
longer transcript in this link TheDormouse Apr 2016 #21
Imagine the fiery shitstorm if Bernie had said this. nt Bonobo Apr 2016 #22
Imagine it if he said or did a tenth of all the stuff she's said and done.Same with Jane and Bill. merrily Apr 2016 #30
Constitutional, as in amending the constitution? XemaSab Apr 2016 #24
Yes, it would take a Constitutional amendment to cut back on choice because merrily Apr 2016 #29
I don't think she meant that. David__77 Apr 2016 #33
Yet Emily's List endorsed her over Bernie... lostnfound Apr 2016 #25
Nothing weird about it. The mission of EMILY's list was always about women politicians. merrily Apr 2016 #28
Yup. EMILY's list has frequently had a "Vote your vagina" mentality. Sexism at it's finest. Bubzer Apr 2016 #41
In fairness, when the organization formed, affirmative action for women in politics merrily Apr 2016 #42
Totally agree. Bubzer Apr 2016 #45
in my state it's nothing but women politicians redruddyred Apr 2016 #61
When what Bubba did helps her, she uses it. When it doesn't, only sexists associate her with him, merrily Apr 2016 #27
... as with Obama nt TheDormouse Apr 2016 #43
How in the world could a limit such as the limit Hillary says she would support be enforced JDPriestly Apr 2016 #31
she does not care roguevalley Apr 2016 #50
Hillary Clinton: I Could Compromise on Abortion northernsouthern Apr 2016 #34
She whaaaaat?????? n/t Wilms Apr 2016 #35
Neither I, nor most people, are in favor of totally unrestricted abortion. Zynx Apr 2016 #38
Of course. There's not a single issue she won't compromise on if compromise leads to personal gain. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #39
And yet, PP officially endorsed AFTER that statement.. 2banon Apr 2016 #44
she hired their leader's daughter roguevalley Apr 2016 #52
She was playing the gop SharonClark Apr 2016 #46
note: mentioning this'll get you banhammered from HoF MisterP Apr 2016 #47
Where will her "compromses" stop? I don't want to find out! CharlotteVale Apr 2016 #48
Her entire candidacy is a fabricated illusion. RiverLover Apr 2016 #57
Kick and R BeanMusical Apr 2016 #58
One tough pre-negotiator. n/ Orsino Apr 2016 #65

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
1. Now imagine for a moment if Bernie had said that...
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 02:06 AM
Apr 2016

We've been told that this is no big deal but I'm still disgusted and shocked that she would go there.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
2. He would be crucified...reconstituted somehow, only to be eviscerated and crucified again.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 02:07 AM
Apr 2016

It would absolutely end his run.

Lancero

(3,012 posts)
5. Already working on her compromises I see.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 02:12 AM
Apr 2016

Clinton I compromised on LGBT rights. Looks like Clinton II is already working on compromising on womens rights.

Wonder what next group will get a compromise? Considering recent comments to and about the AA community, and her daughters extreme concern over how dangerous ending the racist system of mass incarcerations I think it's easy to see the next group she'll compromise one.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
8. That's not all
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 02:27 AM
Apr 2016

She also recently called it "the unborn child" and said that anti-abortion people can be feminists.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
9. Ugh... That sounds like when she was saying big corporations can be dems too...
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 02:29 AM
Apr 2016

it made me then...and hearing this makes me now. Disgusting.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
15. See this is what pandering to the religious right looks like.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 02:42 AM
Apr 2016

Not going to speak at a conference at the Vatican and meeting the pope.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
18. I know. And it enrages me that women, especially young women,
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 02:46 AM
Apr 2016

somehow think she is the champion of them. They are totally deluded.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
19. I think more young women support Bernie.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 02:52 AM
Apr 2016

They're not as easily fooled as older women who've believed the Hillary-hype for decades. I mean, who defends this kind of capitulation?

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
59. All The Stalwart NOW Women Getting Tossed Under The Bus! When You Vote For Someone Who
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:24 AM
Apr 2016

cannot tell the TRUTH then THIS is what you get!

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
13. By serial smearing women who dare to suggest they have been raped, groped, or harassed
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 02:41 AM
Apr 2016

It's a form of tough love feminism...

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
40. I reject your comment.. aww hell... I think I'll reject you too! welcome to my ignore list!
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 01:14 PM
Apr 2016

You'll have all the finest amenities, such as screaming crying and pouting at your heart's leisure... and all without having to worry about any comments from me! Congratulations! I rate you as official beneath my notice.
Have a great day!

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
60. shit, i'm confused
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:52 AM
Apr 2016

did you click 'reply' on the wrong post? did you mean to respond to a hillaroid?

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
26. So was Shrub, and he was an even worse POTUS. Keep that in mind (not you personally, just...) nt
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 03:56 AM
Apr 2016

merrily

(45,251 posts)
30. Imagine it if he said or did a tenth of all the stuff she's said and done.Same with Jane and Bill.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 04:12 AM
Apr 2016

merrily

(45,251 posts)
29. Yes, it would take a Constitutional amendment to cut back on choice because
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 04:10 AM
Apr 2016

the SCOTUS has spoken a number of times giving women certain rights.

Isn't it cool that she's willing to "compromise" away some of the reproductive rights of America's women in order to try to win an election for herself?

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
41. Yup. EMILY's list has frequently had a "Vote your vagina" mentality. Sexism at it's finest.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 01:17 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Sun Apr 17, 2016, 02:32 PM - Edit history (1)

merrily

(45,251 posts)
42. In fairness, when the organization formed, affirmative action for women in politics
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 02:25 PM
Apr 2016

was needed. Still is, IMO. However, there is an issue whether they back the right women candidates and in the right circumstances. For example, they backed Martha Coakley in a primary against three men, including Representative Capuano, who is an outstanding Representative.

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
61. in my state it's nothing but women politicians
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:56 AM
Apr 2016

i agree with hillary that they're frequently better at the job

ayotte isn't loved by the left but she's pretty good for a republican

anyhow, my point is that i agree with your premise.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
27. When what Bubba did helps her, she uses it. When it doesn't, only sexists associate her with him,
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 04:05 AM
Apr 2016

even though she supported and defended everything he did right up until this run. This makes my head spin.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
31. How in the world could a limit such as the limit Hillary says she would support be enforced
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 04:13 AM
Apr 2016

without compromising, cruelly compromising, the expectant mother's right to privacy?

Hillary's idea about abortion makes sense until you think about how it could work in practice.

This is repeatedly the problem with Hillary. Whether it is a question of the Iraq War or breaking up the banks or abortion or whatever, Hillary thinks in theory, not in terms of practical solutions.

Let's take the bank issue. Hillary doesn't seem to understand that the way to break up the banks is to demand as part of a legal settlement of a claim against a bank or in response to a bank's request for a bail-out that the bank divest itself, break itself up. That's how these things are done in real life. But then when has she ever lived in real life?

And with abortion. This must be the right of the woman and it cannot be limited to only certain situations because it would be horrible if the fact that a woman had an abortion was a matter of public knowledge or could because of an accusation, a legal case or some public statement that her abortion was illegal because it was for a wrong reason and not for a reason related to health, be made public knowledge. How horrible for that woman, especially as is likely to be the case, the accusation is false and unfair.

Hillary Clinton is just plain wrong on this issue. She is not thinking far enough. She is just not very farsighted in her thinking. I am sometimes amazed that she made it through law school. She just isn't all that smart. Sorry. But she isn't.

This "compromise" would be horrible for women in conservative states in which conservative politicians would hold witch hunts to try to find out why women got abortions. This is a terrible idea.

Hillary should be embarrassed for even suggesting such a "compromise." The only thing it compromises is a woman's right to privacy at an extremely difficult moment in her life.

 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
34. Hillary Clinton: I Could Compromise on Abortion
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 04:33 AM
Apr 2016

Hillary Clinton could compromise on a universal constant, abortion is chump change to her.

Zynx

(21,328 posts)
38. Neither I, nor most people, are in favor of totally unrestricted abortion.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:08 PM
Apr 2016

Some measure of restriction makes sense. I would actually not vote for a candidate who was in favor of no restrictions. Neither would 75%-80% of the country. Without seeing what the restrictions are, I can't comment. If it would be codifying some of the restrictions that have always been in place, I'd be fine with it.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
39. Of course. There's not a single issue she won't compromise on if compromise leads to personal gain.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:11 PM
Apr 2016

I know of 0 bedrock issues for Hillary Clinton.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
44. And yet, PP officially endorsed AFTER that statement..
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 02:30 PM
Apr 2016

which is why all of the PP petitions on my fb page got put on ignore.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
46. She was playing the gop
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 02:32 PM
Apr 2016

she know they could never come up with such a 'compromise' so there was no threat of it happening. It's a common negotiating strategy.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
47. note: mentioning this'll get you banhammered from HoF
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 02:46 PM
Apr 2016

because undoing Roe is the Way of the Womyn-Born-Womyn

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
57. Her entire candidacy is a fabricated illusion.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:03 AM
Apr 2016

When someone calls a fetus an "unborn person", they aren't pro-choice. She slips up, the mask slips, she's only human.

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