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silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 09:35 AM Apr 2016

Do you think the Clinton Foundation's use of shell companies is part of something

untoward? Has anyone seen the Foundation's taxes? Should we expect to see them?

What does the Foundation *actually do* anyway?

It just seems awfully odd to me that the Clintons have amassed such an enormous amount of wealth just a decade after they left the White House so broke they ate gravy in order to send Chelsea to school. I am so afraid they might be caught up in some kind of tax or money-laundering scandal, and she's not even out of the woods yet on the potential indictment that could come down from Justice on the investigation they are doing on an entirely unrelated matter.

She lost the race 8 years ago, and now she's back for a second try, but she's limping into her "home" state battered and bruised from a literal crushing several weeks of defeats. I just have concerns that with any one of a number of things could come up that would be ugly for the party to have to deal with, and this Foundation thing smells more than fishy to me.

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Do you think the Clinton Foundation's use of shell companies is part of something (Original Post) silvershadow Apr 2016 OP
I certainly don't see it as part of anything toward. dchill Apr 2016 #1
Yes, I think I do. Thanks for the quick reply, I posted in haste after dealing with yet another silvershadow Apr 2016 #3
Don't be shy about "ignore". It makes the DU experience so much nicer. . . I'm closing in on 150 pdsimdars Apr 2016 #15
Hey thanks. I do forget about it. Not sure how many I have on ignore, but a few. silvershadow Apr 2016 #16
Did any of the money flowing through these shell corporations go abroad ... DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #2
It is just very odd. I have never once needed an offshore bank for anything. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #4
Everything they do, from what I understand, is abroad...hence the "Global" in the name. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #10
I saw one post where someone mentioned the important thing wasn't the "transcripts", but pdsimdars Apr 2016 #17
In fact we've already known what the transcripts say... DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #18
Yes it is Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #5
Why isn't there an investigation about Clinton's laundering monies through speakers fees and Clinton Arizona Roadrunner Apr 2016 #6
"Use of shell companies"? How did you arrive at that conclusion? George II Apr 2016 #7
It was reported in mainstream news the night before last they used a shell company with silvershadow Apr 2016 #8
Ah, the ol' unsubstantiated "it was reported". Haven't seen that one attribution before. George II Apr 2016 #11
Oh if it is that important I sure will dig it up. I don't mind sharing that stuff... **EDITED silvershadow Apr 2016 #12
Filing paperwork in Delaware is not the same as using shell corporations. randome Apr 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Apr 2016 #20
Nah, not like she faked a "meeting" with the pope or somethin uponit7771 Apr 2016 #9
In answer to your question, we DID just learn that the Pope IS Catholic. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #14
Lawful citizens don't need shell companies to hide their business dealings. 99Forever Apr 2016 #19
Hey, who doesn't have a bunch of shell companies to launder their money? Scuba Apr 2016 #21
 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
3. Yes, I think I do. Thanks for the quick reply, I posted in haste after dealing with yet another
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 09:41 AM
Apr 2016

rabid Clintonite just now.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
15. Don't be shy about "ignore". It makes the DU experience so much nicer. . . I'm closing in on 150
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:11 AM
Apr 2016

And some people say,"You're missing out on all those opposing viewpoints. You might learn something."

But, get real, I only ignore those who present no actual viewpoint. That just happens to be a lot of them it seems.

 

DemocracyDirect

(708 posts)
2. Did any of the money flowing through these shell corporations go abroad ...
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 09:39 AM
Apr 2016

If they did, then there is an issue.

If a lot money flowed through to the Clinton Foundation or Clinton Foundations partners abroad...

there could be an issue depending how much.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
17. I saw one post where someone mentioned the important thing wasn't the "transcripts", but
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:15 AM
Apr 2016

the Foundation and some Canadian Charity.

 

DemocracyDirect

(708 posts)
18. In fact we've already known what the transcripts say...
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:29 AM
Apr 2016

Insiders have already suggested that Hillary Clinton sounded like a senior manager/partner at Goldman Sachs and that she blamed irresponsible behavior of homeowners.

And yes there is the possibility of pay for play and influence peddling through the Clinton Foundation.

These kind of foundations for past presidents have questionable optics for retired presidents.

For people in senior administration or future president it's incomprehensible.

This could be a buffet for Republicans to attack.

 

Arizona Roadrunner

(168 posts)
6. Why isn't there an investigation about Clinton's laundering monies through speakers fees and Clinton
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 09:49 AM
Apr 2016

Why Hillary Clinton's Goldman-Sachs speeches matter.

http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/04/12/hillary-clinton-goldman-sachs-why-it-matters/

Can a tax payer sue Clinton for release of those speeches to Goldman-Sachs? If Goldman-Sachs tax deducted those speeches as an "expense", then it would be interesting to find out if a regular taxpayer has "standing" to sue. This would be based on the "regular" taxpayer paying more in taxes or getting less in services because of the lost revenue to the government due to the $675,000 tax deduction.

This situation is why she stands at between 57% and 59% disapproval rate. Her lack of perceived "honesty" makes her a VERY flawed candidate. Frankly, if she were to get elected, if Republicans retain control of the Senate and House, they will file impeachment charges on day one, and there will a transaction by transaction investigations of her and Bill's speeches, their "foundation" and ties to decisions made while she was Secretary of State such as the Swiss bank UBS situation.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/07/hillary-helps-a-bankand-then-it-pays-bill-15-million-in-speaking-fees/400067/

The bottom line is there are too many risks for her getting elected let alone being allowed to govern due in large part to the and Bill's actions. Is it true they registered corporations in Delaware? If they did, the only reason one does that unless they live in Delaware is to evade and/or avoid something.

George II

(67,782 posts)
7. "Use of shell companies"? How did you arrive at that conclusion?
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 09:53 AM
Apr 2016

And she's not "limping" into her HOME state (the one Sanders fled about 50 years ago!) "battered and bruised" by a few losses in small, rural open caucus states.

You apparently don't even know the nature of the FBI investigation.

As for your question about what does the Foundation do anyway? You didn't do your homework.

This is what it does:

https://www.clintonfoundation.org/clinton-global-initiative

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
8. It was reported in mainstream news the night before last they used a shell company with
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 09:57 AM
Apr 2016

no assets. Thought you knew.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
12. Oh if it is that important I sure will dig it up. I don't mind sharing that stuff... **EDITED
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:04 AM
Apr 2016

Well it might take a few minutes, I'm going through my history as we speak. I will edit this post ongoing until I find a source for you. While I am reading, here's what all I am going through...It will be in one of these:

Inside Panama Papers: Multiple Clinton connections
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article72215012.html

Clintons omit shell company from public financial files
http://nypost.com/2015/05/26/clintons-omit-shell-company-from-public-financial-files/

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
13. Filing paperwork in Delaware is not the same as using shell corporations.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:07 AM
Apr 2016

That's been widely disseminated on this site already.
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Response to randome (Reply #13)

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
19. Lawful citizens don't need shell companies to hide their business dealings.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:45 AM
Apr 2016

If it walks like a corrupt crook, if talks like a corrupt crook, if it hides things like a corrupt crook.

It's a corrupt crook.

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