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New New York and California Democratic Primary Polls (April 13-15) (Original Post) GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 OP
The Clinton team will be pleased with those numbers. DCBob Apr 2016 #1
And let's keep trashing and ignoring and marginalizing that 43 Percent Armstead Apr 2016 #4
This is a competition to win the nomination. DCBob Apr 2016 #5
Mending Fences? ! 2banon Apr 2016 #8
You are talking about DU type Bernie supporters. DCBob Apr 2016 #12
Yeah? Then who exactly are the Bernie Bros? whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #16
I have no idea what you are talking about. DCBob Apr 2016 #19
Really? Since the primary began Sanders supporters, en mass, have been painted as whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #20
I dont agree with that. DCBob Apr 2016 #21
Could be, also outside of San Francisco Bay Area.. 2banon Apr 2016 #17
Oh no we can't. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #14
Marginalizing? Bernie's supporters want their way, even when they're losing. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #7
Agree with Bernie supporters ... or it is YOU who have attacked them! JoePhilly Apr 2016 #9
well Robbins Apr 2016 #2
New York will be close DetroitSocialist83 Apr 2016 #3
No it wont. DCBob Apr 2016 #6
FYI, New York Dems voting for Trump is also in play. 2banon Apr 2016 #11
1/4 of calls according to whom, exactly? You? The Sanders campaign? Anyone credible? nt IamMab Apr 2016 #18
Did you even read my post? 2banon Apr 2016 #22
Were you calling in Upstate or Downstate...? KoKo Apr 2016 #23
Right, I thought that was interesting too. 2banon Apr 2016 #24
Thanks! KoKo Apr 2016 #25
gonna head on down the street to do it again! 2banon Apr 2016 #27
Bernie need it to not be close. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #10
An improving number for Bernie! It's getting closer! imagine2015 Apr 2016 #15
Mercy, Lord pdsimdars Apr 2016 #13
Looks good for Hillary! workinclasszero Apr 2016 #26
So in both states, Sanders is 15-20 points off his target Tarc Apr 2016 #28

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
1. The Clinton team will be pleased with those numbers.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:50 AM
Apr 2016

Anything close to that and it's.. lights out.. game over.. all she wrote.. sayonara.. the Bern is out... ciao.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
4. And let's keep trashing and ignoring and marginalizing that 43 Percent
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 11:10 AM
Apr 2016

And let's ignore them after the primaries and go back to Unflavored Tapioca in the General and once the elections are over.

After all, according to the Clintons, they just want to "shoot every third person on wall Street"

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
5. This is a competition to win the nomination.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 11:14 AM
Apr 2016

Once that is over we can discuss mending fences and cooperating and and merging ideas from Bernie and his followers. Until then this is still a battle.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
8. Mending Fences? !
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 11:41 AM
Apr 2016



At this juncture fences have been completely torched.. there's nothing left to "mend".

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
16. Yeah? Then who exactly are the Bernie Bros?
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:14 PM
Apr 2016

Are you saying that huge media/Clinton campaign meme is about a handful of people on DU? Hillary and the party have a rude awakening coming.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
19. I have no idea what you are talking about.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:29 PM
Apr 2016

All I am saying is that most Bernie supporters are not as extreme as what we have here on DU... imo.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
20. Really? Since the primary began Sanders supporters, en mass, have been painted as
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:36 PM
Apr 2016

unhinged racist, sexist, Bernie Bros. Now you folks want to say it's only a handful and most Sanders supporters will gladly become drones for the queen.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
17. Could be, also outside of San Francisco Bay Area..
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:20 PM
Apr 2016

despite the proximity of the uber wealthy Clinton funders here, there remains a rather significant number of progressives among the population who share the same view. Person to Person, on and off line. I do realize SF Bay Area is not the rest of the country, as much as I would like it to be.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
9. Agree with Bernie supporters ... or it is YOU who have attacked them!
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 11:42 AM
Apr 2016

Honestly, they cat like the religious far right ... either you adopt their religion ... or it is you who have attacked and persecuted them.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
2. well
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:52 AM
Apr 2016

this means she wins new york on tuesday but it will be closer than many once thought.she defently won't do as well in new york as bernie did in vermont.

As for california their primary isn't till june so it's still in play for Bernie.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
11. FYI, New York Dems voting for Trump is also in play.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 11:59 AM
Apr 2016

About a quarter of the number of phone banking calls made yesterday to registered Dems in New York stated they were voting for Trump.. This was part of the tally in my local gotv gathering.

Between Clinton and Bernie declared responses, it was roughly 50-50. Not nearly as far apart as these polls project. But I am aware that our numbers doesn't necessarily reflect the totality.

(Lectures not required, thank you very much).

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
22. Did you even read my post?
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:52 PM
Apr 2016

I repeat, but word it differently if that helps.

GOTV group in the community where I live, phone banked (of course for Bernie) registered Dems in New York. All the calls were placed to Registered Dems. .

At the end of our session, we shared notes on the responses. how many for Bernie, how many for Clinton, how many for "other". how many no answers, how many moved etc.

Just to be clear, our objective was to encourage the gotv to show up at the polls on tuesday, and can we count on their support for Bernie.

The response were either in support of Bernie, or voiced their support for someone else (Clinton etc), or some not voting at all.

In some instances responders were very vocal about voting for Trump. These were registered Dems. We were scratching our heads over those calls, because after all, these were registered Democrats.

But hey, it's New York! They voted Giuliani for Mayor, right? ! Must of had a lot of Dems voting for him.

So there's that element in play is all I'm saying...


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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
23. Were you calling in Upstate or Downstate...?
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 01:07 PM
Apr 2016

Also, I thought Dems can't crossover in NY Election. If that is so then I wonder if when they get to the polls and find they have to vote Dem if they won't pick Bernie because if they were for Trump they sure aren't going to vote for Hillary, one would think.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
24. Right, I thought that was interesting too.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 01:25 PM
Apr 2016

Most of my calls tended to land downstate.. although a few up state too. A lot of my calls seemed to target various districts of NYC.

It's an auto dialer system, but didn't seem to be calling specific districts per caller, but since I'm not a resident and I'm not familiar with one local from another, it was all I could do to keep up with data entering those responses. I didn't take note of every zip code/polling precincts. Just the ones who were Bernie supporters, to confirm addresses and polling locations.

But having a look at the interactive calling map, it appeared we were placing calls to both up state and downstate, which was fun to watch whenever I could sneak a glimpse.

On Edit: On the responders who declared voting for Trump or other, I didn't get into how they were going to vote cross party lines given they were registered Democrats. As with declared Clinton voters, I just thanked them for their time and wished them a good day.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
27. gonna head on down the street to do it again!
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 02:15 PM
Apr 2016

in just a little bit..

I think I read the phone system is BERNING up in New York this weekend!

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
15. An improving number for Bernie! It's getting closer!
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:08 PM
Apr 2016

If he can get Hillary's number down to 55% that would be a huge win in a closer primary where people haven't even been able to register to vote since last October!

If independents were allowed to vote, those who will decide the November election, Bernie would easily win this primary.
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
26. Looks good for Hillary!
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 02:12 PM
Apr 2016

Only way Bernie can win is with huge blowouts and he cant even draw even with her!

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