her campaign. I'm not say you are wrong but some proof of such a claim would be nice.

when it's your guy you take his word for it? There's a lot of this going around lately on both sides. I can't wait for the primaries to end already

ballot... going once going twice.. sold (our democracy) to the 1/10th of 1%. Thanks and come again.




WAKE UP !

Which is why Bernie supporters helped the Republicans defeat Kloppenburg in Wisconsin with this lack of knowledge.

You should try less emotion-driven shilling, and more reasonable and thoughtful research-driven responses

that the Hill Inc is raising is going to the down ticket.

But you know everything you need to know about Hillary right?

Cause you were here the first time she tried this exact same shit and lost?

Mkay.........

It's strange that you are claiming you didn't start gathering political knowledge until you joined this forum. And that this is your main source of education.

of a long time and still do. I was here the first time Hillary pulled this shit so, beeeeeeeeen there, DONE THAT. I've been here 15+ years and only 5000 posts.

By what your *logic* as you say is, that shows that I listen more than spew.

Buh by.

By the way, I'm aware that a fucking trainload of Hillarious supporters just joined recently all spewing the same asinine talking points. Beeeeeeeeeeeeen there, done that.

Look at those numbers and where it is coming from. It is amazing the difference between the two and that even with such an astounding disparity the nomination is still in question.

That any democratic voter would support what can only be described as the obvious corporate candidate is equally amazing.

$254,814.

Then, of course, you have similar uber-progressive non-capitalist American-worker-centric anti-MIC tiny little entities like:

Microsoft Corp, $95,296
Apple Inc, $85,576
Amazon.com, $63,385
Kaiser Permanente, $56,363
US Navy, $52,803
Boeing Co, $47,206
AT&T Inc, $41,983
Intel Corp, $41,855
US Air Force, $40,783
US Army, $39,847

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/contrib.php?id=N00000528

Looks at the totals... bit of a difference.. shall we move onto bernie's individual contributions..

Soros Fund Management $7,039,800
Laborers Union $4,000,250
Euclidean Capital $3,502,700
Pritzker Group $2,814,343
Saban Capital Group $2,531,995
Paloma Partners $2,505,400
Herb & Marion Sandler/Sandler Foundation $2,502,700
Women's Self Worth Foundation $2,502,700
Priorities USA/Priorities USA Action $2,151,000
Newsweb Corp $2,013,500
Renaissance Technologies $2,010,950
Operating Engineers Union $2,010,000
Fair Share Action $2,010,000
Center for Middle East Peace $2,008,100
Plumbers/Pipefitters Union $2,005,000
Barbara Lee Family Foundation $1,749,604
DE Shaw Research $1,552,950
Carpenters & Joiners Union $1,505,400
Bohemian Foundation $1,252,700
American Federation of Teachers $1,065,755

You've added further proof that the chart to which I was responding was utter bullshit. You'll stop using it, I presume.

It's an interesting contrast, BTW. Social Justice groups, unions and philanthropies vs. megacorporations and the military.

I rather like Secretary Clinton's broad base of support and her ability to fund a campaign sufficiently to compete with the Republican Party in November.

confused... nothing will unite the gop more than a hillary GE candidacy.. truth and fact.. here take a look at these two charts. would love to know if you consider yourself a progressive and an enemy of citizens united ? And still support hillary ??

Disproven by you, reposted by you.

You're a hoot and a half.

now I understand..

by a liar without good documentation. Hillary Clinton is a liar. Be very careful about placing your trust in a corrupted liar.

Thanks to Bernie supporters' lack of understanding of the downticket, the Republicans defeated Kloppenburg. So, regardless of the current amount given to the downticket, Hillary's campaign is a much stronger one for the downticket in November. Any dollar going to Hillary is a plus for the downticket since Bernie supporters don't vote downticket the same way Hillary's do.

and answers questions about his methodology like this'-

I do not give much credence to exit polls because they are wildly inaccurate

The Bernie campaign is really abandoning its inspirational message.

but here we are in an election with these rules. Our choices are to ignore them, take the high road, and be overwhelmingly outspent and lose - or play along with them, try and find wealthy people on our side, and try and match the repubs to beat them at their own game.

If we win, we can then go about putting in a liberal Supreme Court justice, and trying to get the Citizens United and SpeechNow overturned.

I couldn't have said it better

must be a no go with regards to others, and again, these same people will bark and howl when Citizen United and other important issues can't be over turned or amended because we don't have the congress numbers and the neutral SC justice.

Hillary capitulated about whether she'd ask Obama to withdraw Garland as the nominee, so there is absolutely no guarantee that he won't be her nominee and he's not liberal.

In fact, he's another pro-corporate stooge who doesn't have much opinion on whether he'd protect choice.

SCOTUS is off the table as a result of Garland. It matters not. Corporate Dems like Hillary will not nominate liberals who would distance themselves from the corporate teat, so what's the point in voting for her over a Republican? Very little since so many of her policies are old-school Republican.

When the primaries are over hopefully everyone will stop all this shilling crap on both sides

Lame. Why are you against getting a majority of congress? That is crazy talk.

Lame. Whatever.

dishonest. Integrity my ass.

larger point that we need to get a majority in congress, and SBS is helping only three candidates, while Clinton is doing major fundraising for all the states.

A hillary presidency will unite and electrify the right wing.. She will not expand the Democratic party but she will absolutely expand the Republican Party..

okay with Bernie selecting three whole candidates to support.... because they endorsed him.

...and flailing.

...your campaign puts a out a phony fundraising pitch to cover for their virtual abandonment of the Democratic party.

All of the huffing and puffing you're doing, coming onto this thread to defend the indefensible, points up the sanders camp's utter disdain for the Democratic party. Flesh that out any way you want, but it's a big part of why you're losing this campaign. Not surprising you're upset.

Did you read the chart I posted? **94%** of the money raised is for other Democrats. That's essentially what you folks are protesting here. It's no wonder so many people don't think your opportunistic Democrat is best suited to champion the party.

...when your candidate can't decide whether he's enough of a Democrat to actually lift a finger to help elect Democratic legislators.

Some revolution...

the truth. Clooney said it and it's the truth it is ridiculous that we have this kind of money in politics. Not surprised at all that you Clinton supporters find the truth sleazy and abhor editing unless you all are doing the selective editing like you have been for the last three days then it's all good

...a poor one, followed by even more deflecting.

How boring. Your candidate is running sleazy fundraising pitches. This is just the latest one. It makes a mockery of all of his bleating about campaign finance.

I used to think that the right had a monopoly on that kind of thinking, boy was I wrong.

Sanders needs to go.

Very interesting, and quite illuminating.

...not a word from Bernie folks when Clooney was fundraising and campaigning for Obama.

Lots of hypocrisy here on good old DU.

not attacking Obama was a bad thing?

Knew you would.

It's all manufactured outrage from a campaign that really doesn't want to run on issues.

is Clinton poutrage in place of policy discussion.

I hear you bigtree.

I hear you.

Sea-lioning and hypocritical?

Still hearing you.

Having down ticket Democrats as beholden to .1%ers for their jobs as Hillary supposed to be a good thing?

Or is it so they will be beholden to Hillary Warbucks?

The full quote doesn't negate the excerpt.

...to let us know just how little you care about raising money for Democrats.

...and how unconcerned you are about sleazy Sanders fundraising pitches.

Okay.

My mistake.

...so, yes, your mistake.

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Glad to hear she's finally on board!

...to keep claiming some kind of significant movement, much less a 'revolution.'

I'd think that label would go to the person leading the most individuals willing to vote for them, and willing to identify their politics with their cause.

"The other problem with counting the popular vote is that states that held caucuses aren't included at all - Iowa, Nevada, Washington and Maine. Those four states don't have a popular vote total to include - instead they count the number of delegates elected for each candidate to determine who wins. And those states are relatively small, Obama won every one except Nevada.

Nor does the total reflect the outcome of the Texas caucus, which Obama won. The caucus counts the delegates elected instead of voter turnout. But Texas also conducts a primary, which Clinton won, and the popular vote count does include those votes.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/clinton-obama-both-claim-lead-in-votes/

Go Hillary!

Here's a thought, maybe, just maybe, it you might entertain the idea that Hillary is in it for herself. Bernie's been doing the $27 dollar donations since the beginning but your Banker still doesn't have it in the bag.

Raising money for down ticket, HA! Yeay Citizens United! Might as well take advantage of it while it's here right? All the while being against it?

Disgusting.

LOL.

...to avoid talking about his challenge to support other Democrats and the reality that the system won't change just by electing Sanders or anyone else to sit at the top of the heap.

"Clooney said he hoped Clinton would become president, but that if Sanders were the nominee he would "do whatever I can — including, if asked, a fundraiser like this again — to try to get him" elected.

Clooney acknowledged the presence of protesters at the events, and said he agreed with them on more than just the influence of big money."
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trailguide-04172016-george-clooney-bernie-sanders-is-right-about-mone-1460905891-htmlstory.html


Here's how People Magazine put it:
George Clooney Says Bernie Sanders Is 'Absolutely Right' to Criticize the High Price Tag on His Clinton Fundraiser
http://www.people.com/article/george-clooney-bernie-sanders-political-fundraising-hillary-clinton


So it seems to me you are the one pulling the spin here.

...and deliberately misleading.

Not very revolutionary. Politics as usual, really.

IT is a direct quote taken in context.

And there is no other way to look at it.

For months they've been talking a "for the good of the Party" game while acting solely in the interests of the Clintons and their coat-tail crowd. Bernie get out "for the good of the Party". Bernie doesn't raise funds "for the good of the Party." Bernie's not a Democrat, he doesn't care about "the good of the Party". I hold these fund-raisers with the rich and the powerful "for the good of the Party".

It's all a charade ... as her campaign finance and spending record shows ... like everything else with the Clintons. It's all about them ... it's about their fame, wealth and power. Oh, it's cloaked in a facade of doing good for the down-trodden, but that is just a means to make them feel good about themselves in the end . Everything about the the Clintons is first and foremost about them.

Wake up Democrats!

Hang in there.

Wish this was suprising, but it isn't.

I, like George Clooney, have said the same thing. The message seems to have been lost on the Pot and Pan Bangers. The GOP is approaching 1.4 Billion. Tell me how you take on the GOP by pulling this childish crap.

The Sandman versus any republican would be like a Pee Wee Football Team playing a NFL Team. The game would be called after the first play.

But wait, there's MORE!

And George Clooney needs to make another add with just the clipped out part of his statements during that interviews.