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RandySF

(58,884 posts)
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:49 PM Apr 2016

Time Is Running Out for Bernie Sanders

It certainly feels like Bernie Sanders is winning. Judging from his soaring rhetoric, celebrity endorsements, and huge rallies, the Vermont senator lately seems like he could ride his political revolution all the way to the Democratic nomination without breaking a sweat. Of the last eight primary contests, Sanders has won seven. On Sunday, more than 28,000 people turned up to hear him speak in Brooklyn, and on Monday, a new national poll showed him virtually tied with Hillary Clinton, 48 to 50 percent—a 4-point increase that puts him within the margin of error.

And yet, Sanders is well on his way to a resounding defeat. On Tuesday, he is expected to lose New York, where state law prevents independents, some of his strongest supporters, from voting in the Democratic primary. (“Nothing much I can do. It’s bad New York state election law,” he groused on Monday.) A series of recent polls indicates that Clinton, despite a spate of bad press, is still solidly on track to secure the presidential nomination based on her commanding delegate lead.

To be fair, Sanders has beaten the odds before. In Iowa, he overcame a double-digit deficit to virtually tie with Clinton, and in Michigan, he shocked pundits by leapfrogging her 20-point lead to win the entire state. But even if he pulls off similar victories in every single state left in the race, Sanders would still trail Clinton among delegates, who are awarded proportionally, and super-delegates—party leaders who can side with either candidate, irrespective of their state’s vote, and who have largely sided with Clinton. “Bernie Sanders would have to win landslide after landslide starting in New York to change that math,” David Axelrod, President Obama’s former campaign strategist, said on CBS’s Face the Nation Sunday. “He’s run a splendid campaign . . . but at this point, it just looks like time is running out.”

At the moment, Sanders lags Clinton by double digits in all the major upcoming states, New York included, making those landslides highly unlikely. While pointing to the Michigan model as their pathway to victory, the Sanders campaign has quietly begun dialing back expectations for Tuesday. “Here’s the truth: we don’t have to win New York on Tuesday, but we have to pick up a lot of delegates,” Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver said in an e-mail Sunday pointing to polling showing the candidate within 6 points of Clinton. “This poll shows that if we keep fighting, we may actually have a chance to do both.”

The other major reality check facing the Sanders campaign is his lack of super-delegates, the majority of whom have backed Clinton, extending her delegate lead from 244 to 682. Even if Sanders manages to win a series of landslide victories—rather than a more likely scenario in which he merely prevents her campaign from surging ahead—he’ll be hard-pressed to swing those uncommitted delegates over to his side. Much like Ted Cruz with Donald Trump, Sanders’s only realistic shot at fighting on to the general election involves blocking Clinton from securing the number of delegates needed to clinch the nomination (2,382, for the Democrats) and then persuading them to vote for him at a contested convention.


http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/04/bernie-sanders-new-york-primaries

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Time Is Running Out for Bernie Sanders (Original Post) RandySF Apr 2016 OP
All Bernie has to do is get this to the convention. Joe the Revelator Apr 2016 #1
He will still lose there. RandySF Apr 2016 #2
And I will be full of pride for supporting him from the first day to the last. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #5
And go full-on Ted Cruz? onehandle Apr 2016 #4
If 'she had this' she would have closed this down a month ago. Joe the Revelator Apr 2016 #6
She did TMontoya Apr 2016 #13
An exercise in futility KingFlorez Apr 2016 #9
Good luck....I don't think the new wing of the dem party is going to stand for it. Joe the Revelator Apr 2016 #10
Wow, threatening riots. How democratic. KingFlorez Apr 2016 #12
I'm all for saving the party from the third way by any means necessary. Joe the Revelator Apr 2016 #15
And the fact renmains Bernie polls better vs Trump than HRC... Yurovsky Apr 2016 #17
Die Hard. jmg257 Apr 2016 #3
give America another six weeks to think about Hillary for Prez reddread Apr 2016 #7
Tick-tock ... tick-tock! NurseJackie Apr 2016 #8
Drunk? Nt Logical Apr 2016 #14
K & R most enthusiastically. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #11
Time is running out for the Democratic party if it doesn't change Armstead Apr 2016 #16
You mean America doesn't want GOP-Lite? Yurovsky Apr 2016 #18

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
4. And go full-on Ted Cruz?
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:52 PM
Apr 2016

Nope. The GOP is the convention clown car.

Our nominee is far, far ahead and she's got this.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
6. If 'she had this' she would have closed this down a month ago.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:10 PM
Apr 2016

She doesn't 'have this', and polls say that she won't have the GE.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
10. Good luck....I don't think the new wing of the dem party is going to stand for it.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:25 PM
Apr 2016

Not for nominating another moderate republican.

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KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
12. Wow, threatening riots. How democratic.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:29 PM
Apr 2016

Clinton will have the most pledged delegates, which means that she can be declared the winner on the first ballot. Starting a riot to bully people into making Sanders the nominee is undemocratic.

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
17. And the fact renmains Bernie polls better vs Trump than HRC...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:25 PM
Apr 2016

I don't think she can win without progressives - who aren't going to vote for a Wall Street boot-licker - and republicans and Independents loathe her. How exactly is she supposed to win when general when she can barely win her own nomination against the a candidate that she enjoyed every conceivable advantage over?

She's unlikeable. She's a confirmed serial liar. She's breathtakingly greedy. And she's petty and vindictive - look how she interacts with those who DARE to challenge Her Majesty out on the stump.

No thanks. The party is more important than Hillary's ego. F she wins, progressivism loses, and may not recover in our lifetimes.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
7. give America another six weeks to think about Hillary for Prez
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:17 PM
Apr 2016

anything can happen in June.
i think its important to have more than one candidate in a primary all the way through.
dont you?
otherwise there is no primary.
is that what you want?
really?

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
18. You mean America doesn't want GOP-Lite?
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:28 PM
Apr 2016

The less-filling/taste great alternative to the slightly more corporatist policies off the actual GOP?

I hope Goldman Sachs doesn't merge the two, since they'll own both if HRC wins the nomination.

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