to joke about in this situation.

This is a damn travesty, and it offends me that people make light of the democratic process.

and find it to be both funny and good!

at least twice before every election. It's like checking the oil.

What this suit is about is last minute open primary, because Bernie (née Warren) supporters didn't want to get any Democratic stink on them.

"Bernie (née Warren) supporters didn't want to get any Democratic stink on them"

I wear that perfume, and you will never smell me denying it.

It smells lovely. It smells like change. It smells like better horizons.

Yes, I wear that cologne.

don't want to register as Democrats? Or want to open the DEMOCRATIC party primary to rat-fucking Republicans?

Bernie's whole campaign had been anti-Democratic party. He wears his new party affiliation like zombie guts.

It is a given that everyone is going to disagree with each other over everything down to table salt in the US.

Some people act like it is a new revelation that people disagree because they just don't like Hillary Clinton as a candidate.

Deal with it.

They shouldn't be able to throw the Democratic election to the socialist and communist-apologist because they know how easy it would be to destroy him in the general.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

legally, according to the laws of their state, and then their voter registration is illegally purged.

You think it's not ok for independents to register to vote as Democrats. You think that they should have no say in who becomes our next President or have to wait for the GE and have only two viable choices to vote for, none of which they have any inclination to vote for? You call that democracy?

according to the state statutes. A closed Democratic primary doesn't mean you can't register as Democrat. It means you can't be registered as a Republican or an Independent and vote in the Democratic primary.

It doesn't ask you to make a conversion of your mind and soul. There are no Political Thought Police.

REGISTRATIONS ARE BEING CHANGED. From DEMOCRAT to INDEPENDENT. I hope that was clear enough for you.

The registration date was set for six months ago, no doubt hoping that people wouldn't register that early. Too bad, contrary to what you seem to have dreamed up in your head, we made SURE to get voters registered in time.

Are we clear so far?

NOW those registrations are being CHANGED. Here's some shocking information for you, that is a CRIME as it SHOULD BE in a Democracy.

And if it was happening to ANY candidate's voters every single citizen of this country should CARE ABOUT IT.

YOU seem fixated on something so irrelevant I can't even figure it out.

But if you're going rail about a group of people at least know what you are talking about.

One more time. REGISTERED DEMOCRATS ARE HAVING THEIR REGISTRATIONS CHANGED.

Now this MIGHT also affect some of HILLARY'S supporters.

Maybe you should be less cavalier about this democracy even if only because it might one day affect YOU and YOUR candidate since that seems to be all you are concerned about.

I am concerned about THIS DEMOCRACY and that is why I support the candidate who is also concerned about it.

Unbelievable.

day now. Just like what happened in AZ. Another state with the same MO. Why the DOJ is now involved.

Are you in NY? And where did you get this false information? There is plenty of evidence of this. People's registrations are being CHANGED.

Anecdotal evidence is not evidence. So far there is no legitimate proof this is occurring.

Thankfully there are now legal teams involved presenting the evidence in court.

And thankfully literally hundreds of thousands of NYers which will soon be in the millions, actually care about our democracy so this won't be going away until an investigation is conducted to find out how and why so many voters have had their registrations altered and who did it. People need to go to jail over this.

been in favor of no entities controlling the votes. Every citizen has a right to vote and open primary states are the most democratic.

NY has rigged the vote, just as Az did. But we learned from Az. Calls now for a redo in Az, that's what will happen in NY if voters are denied their right to vote.

won't do much good if your voter registration has been purged.

Everyone who wants to vote should be allowed.

Is that where we are in this country? Couldn't give a damn about fair elections or the protection of voters' rights? Democracy is just a joke? I fear the joke will finally be on the people who started out finding it all so funny.

His work here is done. Trash the Democratic front runner. Trash the Democratic Party. Trash the Democratic primary. And skip town.

I've had just enough of your slander against Catholics.

"Hail Mary". The photoshop of Bernie Sanders on a picture of the Virgin Mary.

You want to get me a hide? Here. I'll give you one if you quit slandering people and their religion.

Fuck off, LuvLoogie. That will be the best hide I have ever gotten.

I got married in a 17th century Catholic Church in a little town in Guanajuato, after asking permission from the Bishop in Morelia.

make you a better human being? I'll leave that to your wife to determine.

Does shooting off your mouth like you don't give a shit who you offend make you a better human being?

I'll tell you what it does illustrate - your character.

So you'll have to cite something else. I hope you don't get hidden, even if you do find me irritating and of questionable character.

I am going to keep pushing back. Fair warning.

You have encountered the unstoppable force.

<----- Goes left.

No matter when that is, and no matter what it recommends or doesn't recommend, Hillary's career of deceiving people will be over. The Clinton era is on its last corrupt gasp.

If it comes before, Bernie will be our next President.

If it comes after, a Republican will be our next president.

It's strongly in the public's interest to know before the convention choice too, which should count for something, so I hope the FBI keeps that in mind.

It shouldn't be rushed to the point that it isn't done well enough; but it also shouldn't be dragged out just to create a Repub advantage.

Although you WOULD THINK that people old enough to vote would know better than to choose as a nominee someone who is under active investigation. It is a tremendous risk the Dem party is taking. Like a game of chicken. But who knows what threats are being applied now.

I hope cooler heads within the party prevail, the closer we get to the convention.

Voter suppression isn't fun and games until you shoot your eye out, it is the future, and the direction we wish our country follows.

I'm not sorry I used the big words.

The voter purging or the fact that some people are concerned about it and trying to stop it?

that people are absolutely okay with voter suppression stark naked in the middle of the day, then go on to crow about how their candidate is all about privacy.

You cannot MAKE THIS UP.

When similar stuff happened in the 2000 and 2004 Presidential elections, which gave George W. Bush the presidency, just to mention a couple of the most important ones, there was almost universal outrage about it on DU. I don't recall anybody on DU making light of the situation. Why do some people think it's ok when two Democrats are involved?

why it is different this time.

We are in a regular synchronize swimming pool.

excuse the pun

NYer proud to be properly registered to vote.

I just checked it online.

I've voted in NY in every election since 1992. I had changed to independent after 2008, when I stayed dem to vote for Obama in the primary.

I have never ever had a problem.

This fall I switched back to dem planning to vote for Bernie.

Now I've changed my mind and am voting for Hillary.

I knew to change my registration 6 months ago. Like most New Yorkers I am informed and exercise my franchise vigorously.

I don't for a second buy that there were any nefarious voter purges or mass registration changes. I've been a NY voter for over 20 years. I've never ever had a problem.

thousands or maybe hundreds of thousands of other New Yorkers have been purged?

Maybe you weren't purged because you weren't identified as someone who is likely to vote for Bernie.

Obviously the person or group who is doing this has no intention to purge everyone.

That is Bernie -is-about-to-lose hysteria.

There are not thousands purged or changed. Never happened. No proof. It's bullshit. This is New York. We don't fuck that stuff up.

Paranoia is unbecoming.

What I'm saying is that anyone whose registration is wrong didn't take responsibility for themselves.

Repeat after me: there is no systematic disenfranchisement of anyone in New York State. We have rules you need to follow. That's it.

God damn the paranoid conspiracy theorizing butthurt from the Bernie crew is off the charts. He's gonna lose New York fair and square.

Now I'm off to vote for our first woman president.

And you know that because......?

which apparently has existed for several years (Hurricane Sandy? based on one Affidavit I read) I'll wait for more facts because they aren't clear but you have to promptly assert your rights and have to be vigilant in protecting them

to fall into a pile of Goldman Sachs money, and you folks want to talk about gymnastics.

Have mercy, msongs. I used to think you made sense. I do indeed hope you find it.

Who do these people think that are fooling with this garbage?

B.S. supporters whining is starting to sound like Donald Trump.

that failed just as hard in 2008 does not mean that reality has distorted itself.

It just means that those who choose to distort reality have done so lining up for the rude awakening.

And news reports are emerging that a missile that was built by an aerospace company that donated to Hillary's New York Senate campaign 13 years or so ago, has been launched and is in the sky, targeting the Bronx!

Update: A third Bernie suit will be filed within the hour!

really elevated the conversation.

I am not going to give you an emoji, because that was such a dumb comment that you deserve nothing less than me ranting at you.

Happy?

Things are getting much too crazy around here.

Crazy is a kind way of putting it.

voter suppression. We need to get our collective shit together before Fall.

folks think will happen if we keep rancor and ugliness as dinner mints against the shit sandwiches the Republicans have.

Haven't saw you before. You're interesting. Hope you keep posting.

And I'm sure I'm a mixed bag of "May you live in interesting times".

when we have such dubious people in the DNC, and certain people around here making jokes about this.. willing to win at all costs. What a night, gonna get me a drink

I only see 4 as well.

in the list but claimed they were registered. Then those cases would be reviewed to see what the problem was. This lawsuit seems frivolous.

...the remedy sought gives the lawsuit away.

It's not only frivolous, it's a pernicious attempt to disrupt the primary process. It should be strongly rejected.

in an election run by the same election officials who did the purging?

Regardless of who the person voted for or what party they belonged to.

..republican, IDA, or any party identification.

This lawsuit is nothing but an attempted wedge to overturn the actual will of the Democratic party in NY that their primary election be open to Democratic voters only. It's a ploy and it cheapens and is exploiting actual efforts to obtain a fair vote.

No goddamn judge should have the authority to open a primary election that's restricted to just party members. It's a ludicrous remedy and would actually disenfranchise many more Democratic voters in NY voter by diluting their voting strength as a party.

That's what the aim is here. That's what the support for this is all about, as well, not so subtlety among Sanders supporters. They can't win this critical election in NY with just Democratic votes, so they're willing to even let republicans participate, because they know the chicanery that's common in open elections will almost assuredly benefit them.

There's something even more pitiful behind this. There is a rather dense following of Sanders folks in NY who couldn't be bothered to follow the rules and register in time. This broad brush, one-size-fits-all remedy sought in this lawsuit would cover for this ridiculously inept revolution and give those voters an unfair advantage over the people who did bother to follow the rules and register on time.

If open elections or same-day registration is what NY Democrats want, that is something they will pursue, but not in the middle of the election; not on the very day of the NY vote. If people are having issues with their registration, there should be a process in place to address that, but disrupting a well-established and legitimate process of a closed primary isn't a remedy, it's a deliberate disruption which should be rejected out of hand.

We aren't talking about voters who didn't register on time. We're talking about tens or hundreds of thousands of Democratic voters who were purged. A very disproportionate number of young and recently registered (but before the deadline) voters were purged.

If your candidate lost her chance to win an election because of massive voter purging, do you think that a lawsuit would be an appropriate response?

Or do you not believe that voter purging has actually taken place. With all the reports coming in, including from some NY DU voters, what evidence do you have that this is not actually happening?

...and I think the court will recognize this as the absurdity that it is.

I seriously don't believe any judge would touch this, but if they did, there's already case law from the SC for them to follow.

Susan A. Kitchens ?@susankitchens
Angry about NY's closed primary? 1999—SCOTUS decided a CA case. Party=freedom of association http://j.mp/1rdpz2K




...btw, the only way that I'm really going to discuss this lawsuit here is according to the motive behind the Sanders camp's support for it.

Glad to see some legal action being taken about this.

I'm passing this along and will be interested to see what's decided about it.

Tens or hundreds of thousands of registered Dems had their registration purged. Until then, those New Yorkers were allowed to vote in a closed primary. This is patently illegal.

That's what the OP is all about.

It happened to tens or hundreds of thousands of people in NY on Tuesday. And it was targeted at Bernie.

a useless venture.

You must be a Republican then, right?

They didn't think it was so funny in 2000 and 2004 when Gore and Kerry lost in large part because of that.