Haven't you learned yet facts aren't gonna sway them?

2 votes from decades ago. Sad

the facts are the facts, I would never have a D rating by NRA, it would be a F.

compassion is needed, his vote on the immunity bill was wrong and he refuses to apologize. Enough said.

Do you hold your dear Hillary to the same standards in regards to the War in Iraq and Libya? Based on that logic, I could hold her accountable for all the civilian and military deaths in Iraq due to her greatly uninformed vote.

Invoking Sandy Hook was a sleazy way to take advantage of a random tragedy. Just admit it.

Using Hillary's vote on IWR to blame Hillary for Bush invading Iraq is sleazy. Blame Bush for his actions.

No. I don't think so. And there's no excuse for that as she had direct involvement as acting Secretary of State.

immunity to one industry, the gun industry. Hold Sanders to the same standard you want to hold Hillary.

No, it wouldn't have. The gun was stolen from a LEGAL purchaser.

No, the weakening down in the Brady Bill provided for the Charleston Loophole. Five times he voted against the Brady Bill, we have about 80 people a day dying from gun violence every day in the US. Sanders is responsible for his votes.

Even though she may have been implying that his no vote was responsible for other shootings, she was using the magnitude of this tragedy in a politically opportunistic manner.

Point at issue: Sandy Hook.

The bill called for universal background checks and waiting periods. The shooter stole the weapon from his parents, who purchased it legally. What would that have done? Nothing.

Had the War never occurred, the deaths wouldn't have happened - i.e., directly correlation.

As opposed to Sandy Hook, whereby Sanders' vote was not responsible for the deaths because a "yes vote" wouldn't have prevented the shooter from getting the firearm.

is right to blame Sanders for the Charleston loophole and the immunity given to one industry only, the gun industry. Besides the weapon used in the Sandy Hook is a military style weapon, sold to an individual who was not in the military. The industries should be held accountable for selling a military style weapon to individuals, his yes vote was to give immunity. Yes he is responsible for his votes.

who declare the weapon is perfectly legal? To be sold and marketed in near all 50 states, including CT., to the people, even those not in the military?


ps I don't blame HRC for Bush's war

He voted to give immunity.

SO what's the problem?

Someone's conscious decision to kill another human being doesn't create product liability. If you want to hold them liable, then repeal the Second Amendment.

selling weapons where improper use is not good. Why does the gun industry need immunity. The same as other industries, if the industry is not liable then they will not be responsible.

would result in thousands, if not millions of deaths.

Sanders should not be held liable for the immunity vote as gun manufacturers are not responsible when the product is used in the manner not intended.

War vote intent = kill other humans.

Gun Vote Intent = to shield gun manufacturers from an unreasonable and illogical burden.

Cars aren't defective without air bags, or strong seat belts, but the lawsuits filed against car manufacturers prompted government intervention to make cars safer. Gun manufacturers aren't going to put biometric locks on guns unless they are forced to.

Yes their product is defective because they refuse to take even small steps to increase safety.

..the immunity would be even more justified. But there are Child Access Protection laws in many states - and many guns have safety locks. So in many stances, it's the consumers fault. Right now, due to the nonexistence of a legal mandate to alter the product, the product is still considered non-defective.

Most people buying cars probably think seat belts and air bags are great ideas; not so much for guns - users don't want mechanical safety and bio-metric locks. They want simple and reliable.

Anyway, I found it interesting that the Sandy Hook Complaint didn't mention a single thing about safety features.

You, however, can't tell me how Bernie's vote motivated Adam Lanza.

See how that works?

for gun industries, the only industry with immunity, Sanders voted for this.

then people could sue bat and knife manufacturers as many individuals are injured and killed from both objects according to FBI statistics.

The gun industry doesn't have "immunity". If their product blows up in someone's face, they'll lose a lawsuit over it, and rightly so.

Hillary's vote blew up in ALL our faces, and the Iraqis' too. Who is there for US to sue? Hell... Hillary fucks up and y'all want to give her the reins to the world.