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Yup, no better way to convince Superdelegates to support you than by accusing the DNC of crimes (Original Post) Godhumor Apr 2016 OP
That's ok. If the consistent trend over many months is ignored by the establishment, I silvershadow Apr 2016 #1
Heads up, Tad Devine is "the establishment" emulatorloo Apr 2016 #3
Not if he's working for the anti-establishment candidate, he isn't. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #5
Devine wants to Keep Sanders in until June. Of course he does . . . brush Apr 2016 #56
Luckily, Bernie's outstanding campaign is neck and neck with Hillary, so that shouldn't silvershadow Apr 2016 #57
Tonight is crucial. Not much chance for Sanders if he loses. brush Apr 2016 #58
According to Bernie ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Apr 2016 #7
Yeah, well ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Apr 2016 #12
Yadda, yadda, yadda. n/t NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Apr 2016 #14
Some things are just too ludicrous ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Apr 2016 #20
I'm devastated. NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Apr 2016 #23
Yeah, whatever you say. NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Apr 2016 #26
Hey, I've been here since 2001, and have far fewer posts than you ConservativeDemocrat Apr 2016 #32
It WILL happen. grasswire Apr 2016 #27
+1 silvershadow Apr 2016 #29
you did? ibegurpard Apr 2016 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Apr 2016 #21
Yes, I am completely happy with my healthcare ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #24
but to which country do you pay taxes? nt grasswire Apr 2016 #28
I pay taxes in the country ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #30
Wrong. American citizens pay taxes both in the country it was earned and in the US. SaintLouisBlues Apr 2016 #44
Uh, no, they don't ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #49
No they don't unless? Spin-away Eh! SaintLouisBlues Apr 2016 #59
Do you have a point? n/t NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #61
My point is you are wrong. You refuse to admit it and add caveats. SaintLouisBlues Apr 2016 #63
Wrong about what? n/t NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #65
You wrote: "I pay taxes in the country ... ... where the income was earned. Like everyone else." SaintLouisBlues Apr 2016 #69
FFS. NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #70
Not surprising you can't admit you are actually wrong about something. FFS to you. SaintLouisBlues Apr 2016 #72
What's surprising ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #73
So it's nonsense that expat US citizens are taxed twice? SaintLouisBlues Apr 2016 #74
Who said I was concerned? NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #75
I say you're concerned enough to keep digging a bigger hole. SaintLouisBlues Apr 2016 #76
The tree of Liberty must be watered with Red Bull and Mountain Dew... SidDithers Apr 2016 #48
yep, it's getting so you can't tell any difference between Trump's children and Bernie's Bill USA Apr 2016 #67
I'm shocked you Third Way types are so willing to throw lifelong labor Dems under the bus silvershadow Apr 2016 #68
And that illustrates exactly why the Superdelegate system is so wrong Bjorn Against Apr 2016 #2
Gotta keep them honest. I support an honest party. RepubliCON-Watch Apr 2016 #4
He knows he won't be the nominee geek tragedy Apr 2016 #8
THIS ^^^ NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #11
We opened ourselves up to this by not having any real competition geek tragedy Apr 2016 #15
well, I think you summed that up perfectly. Sheepshank Apr 2016 #47
K&R. Right on the money! nt COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #55
Yep no candidates who are not corporate-backed and Wall St. approved allowed Armstead Apr 2016 #46
God I hope you are right. I can't stand The Third Way interlopers into our party. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #16
There were enough enraged cheers at my part 2 caucus artislife Apr 2016 #10
Those super-delegates that are honest will vote as their state does. Those delegates that have rhett o rick Apr 2016 #17
Funny about how BS cheerleaders call following the rules "cheating" n/t SFnomad Apr 2016 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Apr 2016 #33
Broken almost every rule and law known to man? #smh SFnomad Apr 2016 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Apr 2016 #35
That wasn't the post I was replying to ... do you need help figuring it out? SFnomad Apr 2016 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Apr 2016 #37
You're the one that's trolling ... when you can figure out what post I was replying to SFnomad Apr 2016 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Apr 2016 #39
iow, you couldn't figure it out ... buh bye n/t SFnomad Apr 2016 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Apr 2016 #41
Glad E. Warren will be voting for Cliton then. Agschmid Apr 2016 #43
It's pretty obvious what they're doing. If they had EVIDENCE of an ACTUAL CRIME NurseJackie Apr 2016 #42
I hate to agree with that but I agree...Sanders campaign should not have gone there Armstead Apr 2016 #45
Yeah, it is an odd move Godhumor Apr 2016 #52
More strategery from Weaver and Devine. emulatorloo Apr 2016 #77
The campaign is spiraling out of control Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #50
I don't think super delegates are convinced one way or the other by opinion and puff-posts on DU. LanternWaste Apr 2016 #51
Pretty sure super delegates who are members of the DNC Godhumor Apr 2016 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author pdsimdars Apr 2016 #54
Super delegates are part of the problem beedle Apr 2016 #60
It's a conspiracy!! AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #62
Calling out corruption despite potential blowback is called integrity outside of primary season. hellofromreddit Apr 2016 #64
I'm sure all the "corporate whores" and "criminals" will be happy workinclasszero Apr 2016 #66
Bernie is not good at making friends, is he? Maybe that's why hardly any of his BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #71
More like exposing their dirty laundry. nt NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #78
 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
1. That's ok. If the consistent trend over many months is ignored by the establishment, I
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:24 AM
Apr 2016

suspect it will be torches and pitchforks time. An American Spring, if you will. But I could be wrong.

brush

(53,778 posts)
56. Devine wants to Keep Sanders in until June. Of course he does . . .
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:39 AM
Apr 2016

He's pulling down 800k a month.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
57. Luckily, Bernie's outstanding campaign is neck and neck with Hillary, so that shouldn't
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:43 AM
Apr 2016

be a problem. Besides, Bernie has stated over and over since day one, "all the way to convention". So you guys can just relax. Drink a sweet tea and watch it unfold.

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
6. According to Bernie ...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:39 AM
Apr 2016

... he was offering a "Revolution" against "The Establishment" - and all one had to do to participate was vote for him.

Apparently, not enough of the "revolutionists" did.

I think it's fair to say that people who couldn't get off their asses to cast a ballot in support of "the Revolution" are not very likely to take up torches and pitchforks in the furtherance thereof.

And there's always the chance that the "Revolution" will require the taking-up of torches and pitchforks on the same day as "a big game". If the "revolutionists" whine about a debate being aired at the same time as a sports event, what do you think the chances are that they'll take to the streets if the "Revolution" interferes with their sports-watching schedule?

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NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
9. Yeah, well ...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:47 AM
Apr 2016

... sometimes the truth is hard to deal with.

I am CERTAIN that the people who didn't bother voting for "the Revolution" will be marching in the streets any day now, torches and pitchforks in hand - and sports events notwithstanding.

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ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
32. Hey, I've been here since 2001, and have far fewer posts than you
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:52 AM
Apr 2016

In fact, I've been around long enough to remember when a LOW post count was looked as suspect. You trying to use a high post count as a negative is something else.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
19. you did?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:58 AM
Apr 2016

From someone who sits in Canada lobbing political bombs while enjoying taxpayer - funded bealthcare?
Whatever for?

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NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
24. Yes, I am completely happy with my healthcare ...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:06 AM
Apr 2016

... which is funded by the taxes of Canadian residents, of which I am one!

I am also a US citizen who votes in US elections - or does my Canadian healthcare coverage exclude me from voting?

If the voices of US citizens living out-of-country shouldn't be heard, Bernie should give back his Americans Abroad delegates - right?

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
49. Uh, no, they don't ...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:24 AM
Apr 2016

... unless their income is over a certain amount - a very high amount, which my income is nowhere near.

SaintLouisBlues

(1,244 posts)
69. You wrote: "I pay taxes in the country ... ... where the income was earned. Like everyone else."
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:06 PM
Apr 2016

Not like everyone else. That would be wrong.

SaintLouisBlues

(1,244 posts)
72. Not surprising you can't admit you are actually wrong about something. FFS to you.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:28 PM
Apr 2016

And FFS to your childish eye roll thing.

SaintLouisBlues

(1,244 posts)
74. So it's nonsense that expat US citizens are taxed twice?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:09 PM
Apr 2016

And if it is nonsense, why are you so concerned?

SaintLouisBlues

(1,244 posts)
76. I say you're concerned enough to keep digging a bigger hole.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:43 PM
Apr 2016

I say you're concerned enough to not admit you were wrong?

I'm concerned about expat double-taxation, and correcting misinformation.

On edit: I used the wrong punctuation. See I admitted I was wrong! No big deal.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
48. The tree of Liberty must be watered with Red Bull and Mountain Dew...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:11 AM
Apr 2016

as long as, you know, there's nothing else going on, man.

Sid

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
2. And that illustrates exactly why the Superdelegate system is so wrong
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:26 AM
Apr 2016

If you speak out against the monied interests the Superdelegates will make sure you don't get the nomination. And they wonder why people think the system is rigged.

 

RepubliCON-Watch

(559 posts)
4. Gotta keep them honest. I support an honest party.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:27 AM
Apr 2016

A real democrat supports a party that represents the people(99%), not the elites.

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
11. THIS ^^^
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:51 AM
Apr 2016

But lesson learned - I don't think the PTB in the Party will be extending any welcomes to Bernie-types in the foreseeable future.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
15. We opened ourselves up to this by not having any real competition
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:56 AM
Apr 2016

for Clinton from within the party. Vacuum attracted the impostor saboteur.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
46. Yep no candidates who are not corporate-backed and Wall St. approved allowed
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:09 AM
Apr 2016

None of "those people" who are not part of the political Wal Mart.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
10. There were enough enraged cheers at my part 2 caucus
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:50 AM
Apr 2016

about Superdelegates that I think a lot of the people there will not follow the speeches by the establishment dems to unify and vote down ticket.

We have a host of them in WA state that I don't think I will vote for again if they disregard the overwhelming support that Bernie has gotten from WA voters.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
17. Those super-delegates that are honest will vote as their state does. Those delegates that have
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:57 AM
Apr 2016

been bought by a corrupt DNC won't pay attention to our accusations.

Funny how Clinton supporters rationalize cheating.

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SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
34. Broken almost every rule and law known to man? #smh
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:28 AM
Apr 2016

You people need to come back to reality once in awhile.

Also, if you read the post I was replying to, you'd know what I was talking about and I wouldn't have to explain it to you.

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SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
36. That wasn't the post I was replying to ... do you need help figuring it out?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:31 AM
Apr 2016

You weren't the person I was replying to.

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SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
38. You're the one that's trolling ... when you can figure out what post I was replying to
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:34 AM
Apr 2016

we can continue. If you need help figuring it out, let me know ... if I'm feeling generous, maybe I'll help you out.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
42. It's pretty obvious what they're doing. If they had EVIDENCE of an ACTUAL CRIME
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:17 AM
Apr 2016

... it wouldn't have been handled this way. It's a fundraising stunt. Nothing more.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
45. I hate to agree with that but I agree...Sanders campaign should not have gone there
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:06 AM
Apr 2016

I don't know of there is merit to their charges or not....But the suit at this time looks petty and vindictive.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
52. Yeah, it is an odd move
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:32 AM
Apr 2016

And I'm speaking as someone who thinks Bernie has run a surprisingly effective Insurgent campaign.

emulatorloo

(44,124 posts)
77. More strategery from Weaver and Devine.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:24 PM
Apr 2016

Baseless. But this stuff plays well w the Twitterverse and DU. Love Bernie, do not like Weaver and Devine.

Stuckinthebush

(10,845 posts)
50. The campaign is spiraling out of control
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:26 AM
Apr 2016

Messaging is off and strategy is short sighted.

I think they know it is over but are pulling out all of the stops. It'll be really over soon and this foolishness will subside.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
51. I don't think super delegates are convinced one way or the other by opinion and puff-posts on DU.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:31 AM
Apr 2016

I don't think super delegates are convinced one way or the other by opinion and puff-posts on DU. Seems absurdly naive to believe that to be case.

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beedle

(1,235 posts)
60. Super delegates are part of the problem
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:09 PM
Apr 2016

either they act as decent human beings and assist by stepping down voluntarily, or they will be dethroned unceremoniously like the out of touch old tyrants they are.

Dylan Ratigan from several years ago ... warns that the day was coming, and it's getting real close now.

https://twitter.com/LisaVikingstad/status/721753299947393024

Too much truth for MSNBC --- notice how Finney, the Hillary shill, didn't get it then, and still doesn't get it today.

BreakfastClub

(765 posts)
71. Bernie is not good at making friends, is he? Maybe that's why hardly any of his
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:22 PM
Apr 2016

colleagues like him, or endorse him.

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