2016 Postmortem
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So why would Robby Mook, while on Chris Hayes, make the double-speak argument that HRC is against Citizens United and the unlimited cash it allows to be pumped into the political system but then say in the very next breath, that very same type of money has not, can not and will not influence HRC in her policies.
Begs the question:
why, then, be against Citizens United and dark money in the first place???
If it has no impact or relevance than why make it an issue at all? Why can't any government official earn $250,000 from speeches at places like Goldman Sachs? Why shouldn't they all be able to have dark, nameless accounts of money? Why shouldn't the sitting president? Sitting U.S. House members? Sitting U.S. Senators? Why is it against the law to do those type of speeches? Have those accounts and use it anyway they want, as much as they want?
It's a bullshit argument to say you are against Citizens United and big money in politics, maintaining SuperPACs and dark money accounts and millions of dollars in speeches, while attempting to also say it does not or cannot influence policy in government. You cannot have it both ways.
metroins
(2,550 posts)By the rules you're given.
I'd give more context but I think it is implied without being express.
angrychair
(8,699 posts)That is an excuse, not an answer.
Sorry, you cannot have it both ways. The logic pretzel it takes to get to that spot, where it's ok and makes sense, is significant.
Logically speaking, the argument being made, is: "I think unlimited corporate money and dark money is not good for government officials. I will make sure people cannot do it because it's bad. I have to keep doing it for right now though. I'll fix it later though, really."
It's hard to believe and or take serious.
Want an example have how this money corrupts? You have it.
Joob
(1,065 posts)I understand what you mean, in theory same thing could be said for Super-Delegates with Bernie.
However, the big difference is Super-Delegates change position based on the will of the people in their state and even then. Not always.
I'm just wondering how far will she play this game. Based on why corporations and lobbyist give large amounts of money to politicians, there's usually an agenda they want that candidate to play out.
The question is.. Is she playing them or us, the people. For some reason, I don't think people who have a lot of money are stupid and would give it out for no reason unless it's a sure bet they get what they want.
tokenlib
(4,186 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)That's all.